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Re: Obama's latest scam: School Loan Forgiveness.
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2011, 09:19:13 AM »
White House Student Loan Measures Will Barely Dent Soaring Costs [ Costs soar under Obama ]
cnbc ^ | Oct 26 2011 | By: Scott Cohn




[snip] Tuition and fees at public four-year colleges and universities jumped 8.3 percent nationwide for the 2011-2012 school year, the organization said. The numbers were skewed by California, which raised in-state tuition and fees by a whopping 21 percent this year. But even without California, costs rose seven percent, according to the College Board’s annual “Trends in College Pricing” report released on Wednesday.

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Private, non-profit colleges raised prices as well according to the report, but not nearly as much as their budget-strapped public counterparts. Tuition and fees rose 4.5 percent, which is still more than twice the core rate of inflation.

“Private institutions don’t rely on state budgets for funding,” Baum told CNBC.

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The new Obama administration measures—which the White House says do not need Congressional approval—are aimed at lowering payments for millions of borrowers.

Beginning next year, an existing program that allows borrows to base their monthly payments on a percentage of their income will be enhanced. Under the current “Income-Based Repayment” program, borrowers can limit their payments to 15 percent of their income, with the ability to have the balance of the loan forgiven after 25 years. Under the new program, the cap will drop to ten percent, forgivable after 20 years.


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Re: Obama's latest scam: School Loan Forgiveness.
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2011, 09:30:24 AM »

Obama Taps Taxpayers For Student Stimulus
By Chris Stirewalt

Published October 26, 2011
| FoxNews.com


 
 Obama Taps Taxpayers For Student Stimulus; Romney’s Nuance Doesn’t Thrill on Hill

Obama Looks to Wring Stimulus From Saturated Student Loan Market

“$1 Trillion”

-- Estimated amount of student loan debt owed by Americans.

In keeping with his new campaign theme of “we can’t wait,” President Obama today will roll out a plan to put more money in the pockets of some of the nation’s 36 million student loan recipients.

Obama has broad latitude in this area – certainly broader than the first two parts of his western campaign trip, underwater mortgages and subsidies for hiring veterans – because one of his early legislative initiatives was to have the federal government take over the student lending business in America.

Obama argued for the measure in 2009 as a cost-savings initiative, saying that the old system of privately issued, government secured loans reduced the amount of available money for needy students and also prevented the feds from making the system more efficient.

But Obama is now seeking to use that new power to obtain a taxpayer-financed stimulus that Congress won’t approve. The idea is to cap student loan repayment rates at 10 percent of a debtor’s income that goes above the poverty line, and then limiting the life of a loan to 20 years.

Take this example: If Suzy Creamcheese gets into George Washington University and borrows from the government the requisite $212,000 to obtain an undergraduate degree, her repayment schedule will be based on what she earns. If Suzy opts to heed the president’s call for public service, and takes a job as a city social worker earning $25,000, her payments would be limited to $1,411 a year after the $10,890 of poverty-level income is subtracted from her total exposure.

Twenty years at that rate would have taxpayers recoup only $28,220 of their $212,000 loan to Suzy.

The president will also allow student debtors to refinance and consolidate loans on more favorable terms, further decreasing the payoff for taxpayers.

Obama’s move comes at a moment when many economists are warning of a college debt bubble that is distorting college tuition rates and threatening to further damage credit markets. The president’s move is intended to make college more affordable for more people, which will, in turn allow universities to jack up their rates.

As in the housing bubble, cheap credit on easy terms increases the amount of money chasing the product (in this case a diploma) allowing schools to increase prices. This inflation makes it harder for middle-class families to afford paying their own tuitions, driving them into the government financing program, which, you guessed it, drives up costs further still.

Obama’s goals, aside from continuing to encourage young people to spurn the private sector in favor of service jobs, is to try to juice the economy. Those who participate in the program could see their monthly incomes rise by hundreds of dollars, thereby increasing the money they have to buy stuff and try to juice the economy.

A more modest program already in place has been a bit of a bust with only 1.25 percent of debtors signing up, likely because of the unpleasant notion of additional paperwork and government reporting hassles. But by sweetening the deal and putting a big PR push behind it, Obama is betting that he can get people spending in time to help shore up his re-election chances.

The best part for Obama is that he can obligate the Treasury without Congressional approval thanks to the passage of what he described as a cost-saving measure in 2009.

Update: White House Responds

A White House official responds to Power Play, saying that the president's student loan action will "almost certainly reduce" deficit spending because of the savings the administration says will be achieved by a 2010 federal college lending takeover and what the administration believes will be a lower rate of default among student debtors due to lower lending rates.

The official also stressed that the loan program is only an expedited version of the forgiveness and refinancing rules enacted by President Obama and congressional Democrats in 2010. The original law calls for the end of participants’ obligations after 25 years and caps payments at 15 percent of a debtor’s income above the poverty line.

That legislation, passed in the Senate as a rider on the president’s health law in order to use the reconciliation process that requires 50 votes instead of the usual 60 votes due to bipartisan opposition, was promised to reduce federal outlays by $68 billion over the next decade, monies which were earmarked for cost savings and an expansion of the Pell Grant program for needy college students. The funds for the stimulus endeavor announced by the president in Denver on Wednesday are said to be drawn from that cache.


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Risk-Averse Romney Frustrates Hill GOPers

"I am not speaking about the particular ballot issues. Those are up to the people of Ohio. But I certainly support the efforts of the governor to reign in the scale of government. I am not terribly familiar with the two ballot initiatives. But I am certainly supportive of the Republican Party's efforts here."

-- Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney walking back his prior support of a new Ohio law that restricts the collective bargaining power of state worker unions.

While former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has done a better job of wooing Capitol Hill Republicans than his fellow GOP 2012 contenders, there’s still a resistance to the man who has been the party’s frontrunner for most of the past three years.

Romney heads to the Hill today to try to corral supporters from two groups – more moderate members who are natural fits for Romney and a few conservatives to vouch for a nominee they can accept as the inevitable choice.

It’s been a hard sell.

“If he’s inevitable, I don’t know why he needs my help,” one swing-state Republican House member told Power Play. “I’ll endorse the nominee, whoever that is.”

Members and staffers agree that while Romney looks increasingly unbeatable since the party’s conservative base remains divided, there’s little to be gained from jumping on board early.

“If you endorse [Romney], you upset the base at home and don’t really get anything in return,” a former senior Senate staffer who now works as a GOP campaign consultant told Power Play. “This is not one where you want to be seen as ahead of the curve.”

A closet Romney backer in Congress who said she is soon to announce her support publicly told Power Play that the frontrunner would continue to roll out a series of high-profile endorsements in the days and weeks to come.

“We respect results and we respect experience,” he said. “We also know that it will take practical solutions to do the job.”

Romney made his task more complicated on Tuesday when he flinched when questioned about a pair of state ballot initiatives while visiting a Republican campaign office where they were working hard to pull out wins on the referenda.

Romney issued a statement this summer in support of the law pushed by Gov. John Kasich to roll back the collective bargaining powers of state worker unions, but when asked in person about the union-led effort to repeal the law through a plebiscite, Romney was agnostic on the subject deferring to the will of the voters.

Many have attributed this to Romney’s unwillingness to be attached to the losing side of the issue since polls show lopsided support for the union-backed repeal measure. Others have speculated that Romney was looking to avoid connection to the anti-government union movement inside the GOP, an association that could be damaging to a candidate whom Democrats are already painting as a plutocrat uninterested in the plight of blue-collar workers.

More likely, though, it was the other issue on the ballot: A constitutional amendment that would shield Ohioans from the key provision of President Obama’s health law that requires all Americans to either purchase private insurance or be enrolled in a government program.

Romney, who pioneered the concept of mandatory insurance in Massachusetts, can hardly speak in favor of the Ohio amendment, which looks likely to pass. He has held that states should be allowed to compel citizens to buy insurance, but not the federal government and that each state should do as it wishes on the subject.

If Romney expressed an opinion on the union rule, he would be hard pressed to then express agnosticism on the mandatory insurance provision. By ducking the question, Romney protected himself from having to talk about his health law and, perhaps, avoided an even bigger embarrassment than what followed.

Romney’s answer was therefore technically the politically correct one since it traded a small embarrassment for a larger gaffe, but it is exactly that kind of calculation that continues to leave GOP activists cold. Romney avoids the gaffes that have plagued Herman Cain, Rick Perry and even occasionally Newt Gingrich.

By giving such careful answers, Romney has been able to maintain his quarter of the GOP electorate, but hasn’t been able to rebut the central critique of his candidacy: ideological inconstancy.


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And Now, A Word From Charles

“I think this is the beginning of his re-launch and his last chance for a re-launch. What's surprising is that he didn't start with this. He thought he could start the campaign defining himself as a guy that created jobs in Texas. That is not enough. That is a bit of a narrative, but it's not a program.

When Reagan ran in 1980 he had a program. He wasn't only running against stagnation and Carter and malaise, he ran on a guy who is going to the Kemp-Roth tax cuts, which were radical, one-third cut, which was a major cut.”

-- Charles Krauthammer on “Special Report with Bret Baier.”



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Re: Obama's latest scam: School Loan Forgiveness.
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2011, 09:39:59 AM »
LOL!!!

Obama doesn't know what to do at this point. He is just hoping that enough people buy into his scam, bait and switch routine. What a sad sight. Two weeks he was pandering to the latinos, now it is the impressionable college student.

The scary thing is that a lot of those college students and latinos might be stupid enough to fall for it.

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Re: Obama's latest scam: School Loan Forgiveness.
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2011, 09:41:24 AM »
This is subprime all over again - just for school loans! ! !  !


I'm not kidding - Obama is so hopelessly ignorant and dumb its not even funny any more.   

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Re: Obama's latest scam: School Loan Forgiveness.
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2011, 10:19:47 AM »
Great news: Obama’s student-loan changes puts $8 in borrower pockets per month


http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/27/great-news-obamas-student-loan-changes-puts-8-in-borrower-pockets-per-month/ ^



In trying to contrast himself with a supposedly balky Congress, Barack Obama has rolled out the first two in a series of unilateral executive actions to “heal this economy.” The first attempted to rescue homeowners from foreclosures by refinancing mortgages that are, er, current with their payments. The second adjusted caps on student-loan payments in an effort to give college graduates more money to spend each month. More disposable cash means more spending, which in a consumer-driven economy means growth … right?

In theory, yes. But buying an extra four Slurpees a month probably won’t cut it.


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Re: Obama's latest scam: School Loan Forgiveness.
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2011, 10:45:40 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/27/obamas-student-loan-plan-_0_n_1034753.html#comments



LMFAO @ insanely dumb most liberals are.   


They create a problem, it blows up, and then want to come in after the fact with an even worse "solution" that helped create the problem in the first place.   


F'ng Idiots.   

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Re: Obama's latest scam: School Loan Forgiveness.
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2011, 11:18:56 AM »
PETER SCHIFF: Obama's College Tuition Plan Will Prop Up Bloated Schools
Peter Schiff, Euro Pacific Capital | Oct. 27, 2011, 5:16 AM | 926 | 14


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URL Peter Schiff is the president and chief global strategist of Euro Pacific Capital


 
President Obama yesterday announced a plan that will ensure students are able to commit to higher levels of federally backed student loans.

By limiting student obligations to repay, and by passing more of the repayment burden onto taxpayers, colleges and universities will be able to continue to raise tuitions at a rate that outpaces nearly every other cost center in the American economy.

The move will come as a great relief to an education establishment increasingly concerned that students might no longer be able to afford skyrocketing tuition rates.

The AP reported today that state support for higher education has fallen 23% after accounting for inflation over the last ten years, even as tuitions have risen 5.6% faster than CPI. This gap has been bridged by a whopping 57% increase in federal student loans over the same time period due to the increased cost of tuition and number of student enrollment. 

The Obama plan limits repayment obligations on those federal loans to just 10% of "discretionary income" which it defines as total income above 150% of the federal poverty level - currently translating to about $16,000 for an individual, or $33,500 for a family of four.

The plan also limits the term of obligation to 20 years. These terms represent a substantial easing and acceleration of the terms in Obama's "Pay as You Earn Plan," which was just announced last year (see my April 2010 response to that plan). 

That plan, which was scheduled to begin in 2014, represented the first time the government had imposed any limits on repayment obligations. It had capped repayments at 15% of discretionary income for 25 years. 

Assuming that a successful college graduate would earn, on average, $80,000 per year over the course of the 20-year obligation period, the repayment burden under the new plan will total somewhere around $4,500 per year, or $90,000 for the life of the loan. A less successful graduate who earns say $50,000 per year, on average over the 20-year obligation period, would have a repayment burden of just $1,500 per year, or just $30,000 over the life of the loan.

Any loan amounts above those totals will be forgiven.  As a result, students need not fear the inability to repay large loans. They need not worry about future interest rate increases, which could raise their payments. More importantly, students will feel diminished pressure to obtain high paying jobs. In fact, the less a graduate earns, the greater the amount of loan forgiveness.

For the majority of students, who don't become very high earners, it will make little difference if loan amounts are $90,000, $180,000 or even more. As the repayment burden will be capped to a percentage of average income, loan repayments will be the same for any loan beyond a certain threshold.  These policies could remove all barriers for larger and larger loans, which will then allow universities to charge higher and higher tuitions. This will permit them to maintain their bloated administration infrastructures and will allow them to continue loading up their campuses with even fancier facilities such as gymnasiums, performing arts centers, food courts, and health centers.

The day of reckoning in which the higher education system would have had to offer programs that fit into the budget of average Americans has been postponed, if not entirely eliminated. Of course the losers in this new arrangement will be American taxpayers who will be on the hook for the unpaid balances. Recently, college loan debt passed credit card debt as the largest, non-mortgage, source of debt in the United States.

The balance of these unpaid student loans will be thrown onto the pile of America's escalating unfunded debt. Of course, the moral hazard implicit in the program means these liabilities will now pile up even faster. In addition, the program substantially increases the interest rate risk to which taxpayers are already over-exposed due to the short maturities of the national debt. The higher student loan interest rates rise, the larger the unpaid balances that taxpayers will be forced to assume.   

Obama's move is likely to set off a student loan forgiveness arms race in which politicians may continue to ease and cap loan repayment obligations. With nearly a trillion dollars of outstanding college debt rapidly increasing, debt forgiveness for the young could be the political equivalent of protecting social security for the elderly.

If college students were willing to rack up this much debt under the assumption they would have to actually pay it back, imagine how much debt they will be willing to amass now that they realize they do not?  As a result, expect college tuition increases to not only continue but to accelerate.  In a way, Obama would be turning higher education in to a third-party payer system (not too dissimilar from our current health care system - which is also characterized by outsized cost increases).

Under this new system, colleges might charge whatever they want because their customers simply turn the bill over to the U.S. taxpayer who has no say in the transaction. Under such a system what incentive would a kid have to live at home and go to a community college? Why not attend the most expensive university that taxpayer money will allow? I suppose Obama was so impressed with how this dynamic works with health care that he decided education could use some of the same medicine.

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Re: Obama's latest scam: School Loan Forgiveness.
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2011, 07:19:20 AM »
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Gingrich calls Obama student loan proposal a 'Ponzi scheme'
The Hill ^ | 10/28/11 | Justin Sink
Posted on October 28, 2011 10:10:29 AM EDT by Libloather

Gingrich calls Obama student loan proposal a 'Ponzi scheme'
By Justin Sink - 10/28/11 08:15 AM ET

Newt Gingrich said that President Obama's recently announced student loan proposal was a "Ponzi scheme."

Obama's plan would allow for easier consolidation of outstanding student loans, and would forgive outstanding balances on federal loans after 20 years of payments, rather than 25. Federal loan repayments would also be capped at 10 percent of a borrower's income, lowering payments, down from 15 percent now. The president would also begin implementing the changes next year, rather than 2014 as was currently planned.

But Gingrich says that Obama's plan lies to students "by promising to every young person, 'You won't have to pay off your student loan as a student." Instead, the former Speaker of the House says that those who benefit from the program will just "have to pay off the national debt" as taxpayers later in life.

He went on to say that the proposal was "a Ponzi scheme even by Gov. Perry's standards."

Gingrich was speaking at an education forum in New York attended by a number of Republican candidates.

Michele Bachmann also criticized the plan at the forum, saying it created a "moral hazard."

"There is a morality in keeping our financial promises, and I don't think we should push that off onto the taxpayer," Bachmann said. "The individual needs to repay and be responsible for repaying their student loan debt."

The Minnesota congressman also echoed comments by Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), who said Thursday he was concerned about the constitutionality of the administration's decision to change rules without congressional approval.

"I believe it is abuse of power from the executive to impose via an executive order a wholesale change in the student loan," Bachmann said.