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Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« on: November 11, 2011, 04:08:52 PM »
It looks like the Mexican government is cracking down on violent drug cartels--by forcing them to properly sort their trash.

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 04:13:18 PM »
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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2011, 04:17:51 PM »
How gay is that Orange bin

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 04:18:36 PM »
Those cartels are fucking insane. Sucks to be living in Mexico.

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 04:19:38 PM »
mexico is a shit hole

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 04:21:22 PM »
Those cartels are fucking insane. Sucks to be living in Mexico.
Well, if America got firm with it's drug users...

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2011, 04:22:58 PM »
usa needs to send it's troops into mexico and massacrate some animals

bring them back from afghanistan and send them into mexico and the border area

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 04:23:18 PM »
Well, if America got firm with it's drug users...

Sorry, broski. Prohibition doesn't work.

Restrict drugs and prices (along with violence) just sky rocket as a direct result. As hippyish as it sounds, I firmly believe that ending prohibition is the only way. Cut the legs out from the crime organizations and they won't stand for long.

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 04:28:56 PM »
Sorry, broski. Prohibition doesn't work.

Restrict drugs and prices (along with violence) just sky rocket as a direct result. As hippyish as it sounds, I firmly believe that ending prohibition is the only way. Cut the legs out from the crime organizations and they won't stand for long.

The only problem with legalising drugs isn't that everyone will start using them, or using more of them. It's the government getting greedy and thinking they are the only dealer in town, upping the price, and then the cartels just go out there and undercut them.

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2011, 04:36:07 PM »
Sorry, broski. Prohibition doesn't work.

Restrict drugs and prices (along with violence) just sky rocket as a direct result. As hippyish as it sounds, I firmly believe that ending prohibition is the only way. Cut the legs out from the crime organizations and they won't stand for long.

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I am in drug court now and the minute people are out of it they are high as a kite 30 minutes later.  This is after 15 months or more of sobriety.  I really think if weed was legal then heroin and pills, coke, etc..would go down in consumption.  Most of the addicts I talk to say that they will have to still smoke weed at least to keep them off of the hard shit including alcohol.  I don't know man..it a clusterfuck.

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 04:38:21 PM »
The only problem with legalising drugs isn't that everyone will start using them, or using more of them. It's the government getting greedy and thinking they are the only dealer in town, upping the price, and then the cartels just go out there and undercut them.

The government is always at the heart of the problem. If organized crime becomes more engaged in competing with other sources like the government, it's much better than their entire focus being reserved on violence. Law makers are the gate keepers and I wonder how many more innocent lives it'll take for them to admit their wrongs.

Here in Canada I am legally authorized to carry 5oz of weed at all times because I finally got my medical pardon. That's a quarter pound, dude. But somewhere in the States it could land me more prison time than if I had raped someone. That's just because of how the laws are. The actual substance is far less dangerous than prohibition.

Now you have these crazy ass cartels. That's a whole different beast. They're a product of their environment too though. One of the best strategies would be to legalize drugs. Mexico is a shit hole anyway, so lets use this as a social experiment and see what happens. I predict that it'll bring their revenue down substantially. Any time law enforcement tries making a move, these guys shoot a bunch of innocent people in broad day light to show that life means nothing to them. I think this is pretty much the only move they could make without being put back in checkmate again.

I don't know what else could help Mexico. Poor fuckers are FUCKED! :(


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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 04:59:12 PM »
I don't see lot of Mexicans waving the Mexico flags like they use to anymore.  And I haven't heard this in a few years either, "Viva El Mejico."  Some of those flag wavers may have become victims while visiting Mexico, quite possibly.

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 05:05:16 PM »
Sorry, broski. Prohibition doesn't work.

Restrict drugs and prices (along with violence) just sky rocket as a direct result. As hippyish as it sounds, I firmly believe that ending prohibition is the only way. Cut the legs out from the crime organizations and they won't stand for long.
Not that...
The escapism and stress factors that many use drugs in the first place. I see too many heroin addicts, crackhead, pill poppers, and the way they justify their habit, and them stealing from their family and pawning the stuff to get drugs. Too many stores affected by shrinkage due to drug users.

America is or has become a nation of addicts, plain and simple.

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 05:12:45 PM »
Not that...
The escapism and stress factors that many use drugs in the first place. I see too many heroin addicts, crackhead, pill poppers, and the way they justify their habit, and them stealing from their family and pawning the stuff to get drugs. Too many stores affected by shrinkage due to drug users.

America is or has become a nation of addicts, plain and simple.

Addiction is less of a mess than prohibition. We can and are dealing with addiction. There's a ton MORE work that needs to be done, but it's at least something within our realm of accessibility and possibility. The war on drugs is completely out to lunch though. Before we can even start tackling that problem we need to get with the fucking program and get our priorities straight.

While we're on the subject, my dad was addicted to opiates and eventually heroin after a couple motorcycle accidents and a bad string of events. He was on the streets for years and I cut ties because the addition was so strong. He technically died from an overdose but was resuscitated a few times. He pulled through and finally picked his shit up after that event. He's driving trucks for more than $30 an hour and not long ago he was living on the streets he's now working on. I've seen people even worse pull through too, so addiction can be defeated. 8)

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2011, 05:19:37 PM »
Good for your father Dustin...
It's getting crazy with the opiates--nurses stealing doctor's scripts, all type of stuff
my thing is, the pharma companies need to find a non-opiate or non addictive pain reliever.

The heroin shit is nasty---people pinning their eyelids...dudes cutting people's catalytic converters off their trucks---right after you park it, and they burn themselves and still keep on.

The Nation of Islam has a very good rehab program, I don't know what it entails, but I have heard how excellent it is.

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Re: Mexico gets firm with drug gangs
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2011, 05:38:35 PM »
Good for your father Dustin...
It's getting crazy with the opiates--nurses stealing doctor's scripts, all type of stuff
my thing is, the pharma companies need to find a non-opiate or non addictive pain reliever.

The heroin shit is nasty---people pinning their eyelids...dudes cutting people's catalytic converters off their trucks---right after you park it, and they burn themselves and still keep on.

The Nation of Islam has a very good rehab program, I don't know what it entails, but I have heard how excellent it is.

Thanks, man. I'm pretty happy about things. It's tough for a man to admit his faults, especially to his sons whom he had been a bad father too. So I had no problem accepting his apologies because I know the shit he's been through. It was a hell of an interesting ride to watch as well.

I follow pharm news and read that a new opiate was being developed that turns to gel if it's heated. It's also slowly released and you can't crush and insufflate it either. I think it's to replace Oxycontin or something similar... shitty thing is that there's a million other opiates to chose from anyway.

When I was getting drugs to treat my migraines my doctor almost forced me to take opiates. They push it so hard and I had to tell him "no" so many times. I only use them in emergency purposes when my other migraine meds don't work. It's no wonder why North America is so hooked.