How come natural bodybuilding doesn't actually work but sounds like it should?

[chess315]

you can look decent and be strong natural the ultra low bf is where you run into problems i keep saying it and saying it no pays attention.

[njflex]

you can look decent and be strong natural the ultra low bf is where you run into problems i keep saying it and saying it no pays attention.

i agree anything under 6 to 8 pct unless born to superskinny then got bigger but still lanky and 4/5 pct naturally like running basketball courts,,but a real lifter clean when u start going below 6/8 pct bye to delt/traps and fullness and if competing u can't recover that size like a user can in any sort of time..so lift/get good or as great as u can and be happy or compete to the best u can and pray no users come beat the test and win if ur doing clean/natural show's if u go open npc drug show's clean enter at your own risk...

[Army of One]

You can be impressive to joe public in everyday situations as a natural, you cant not look like shit onstage as a natural.Hope this helps.

[njflex]

You can be impressive to joe public in everyday situations as a natural, you cant not look like shit onstage as a natural.Hope this helps.

well thats a large scale to look good in then,,,

[purenaturalstrength]

You can be impressive to joe public in everyday situations as a natural, you cant not look like shit onstage as a natural.Hope this helps.

I don't think so, maybe in a small town that has no juiced up bodybuilders


But where I live I feel like a twink whenever I go out at night and see these juiced up guidos in the clubs

[wes]

Stop whining,you`ve been given good advice..........take it or leave it!!

GEEZUS!!

[purenaturalstrength]

Stop whining,you`ve been given good advice..........take it or leave it!!

GEEZUS!!

most of your advice was bro science but I agree there were a couple of posters with very excellent advice

and I am reading the book he suggested right now (practical programming by rippetoe)

[wes]

most of your advice was bro science but I agree there were a couple of posters with very excellent advice

and I am reading the book he suggested right now (practical programming by rippetoe)

LOL @ broscience,and LOL @ rippetoe................ ...good luck !

[purenaturalstrength]

good luck !

thanks 

[Mawse]

most of your advice was bro science but I agree there were a couple of posters with very excellent advice

and I am reading the book he suggested right now (practical programming by rippetoe)

Why would you take advice on bodybuilding from a fat old man who prides himself in not caring about how he or his trainees look?

I wouldn't even take PLing advice from him as a beginner because his technique advice is terrible for people who want to total more than 1400... and that's supposed to be the area he's an 'expert' in

[purenaturalstrength]

Why would you take advice on bodybuilding from a fat old man who prides himself in not caring about how he or his trainees look?

I wouldn't even take PLing advice from him as a beginner because his technique advice is terrible for people who want to total more than 1400... and that's supposed to be the area he's an 'expert' in

Well I do question his expertise because

*he admitted to having used steroids because all his mates and competitors where using them and it was legal back then

*all time best bench press 1 rep max of 396 @ 220lbs bodyweight (i don't know his height but i've seen his pictures and he was a full house)


soo all in all that's not THAT impressive


problem is I don't find any other powerlifting writers that seem trustworthy

[Mawse]

does he use the 'it was legal and the Dr gave me one dbol a day' lie?

400lb bench isnt bad for 220, but it was single ply which added 50lbs even back then.

you could read the dave tate/wendler advice but thats for equipped lifting.. trying to bench all tris doesnt really help much when yr a raw bencher. same as sitting back on a box squat, doesnt do shit for raw squatting that should be mostly quads anyway

either way his advice is all wrong for getting bigger. I used to bench 405 for reps, now I rarely go over 315 and my chest and arms are bigger, because I do the reps slower and do a ton more volume.

[purenaturalstrength]

does he use the 'it was legal and the Dr gave me one dbol a day' lie?

400lb bench isnt bad for 220, but it was single ply which added 50lbs even back then.

you could read the dave tate/wendler advice but thats for equipped lifting.. trying to bench all tris doesnt really help much when yr a raw bencher. same as sitting back on a box squat, doesnt do shit for raw squatting that should be mostly quads anyway

either way his advice is all wrong for getting bigger. I used to bench 405 for reps, now I rarely go over 315 and my chest and arms are bigger, because I do the reps slower and do a ton more volume.

but you are juiced right?


seems like getbig agrees on the idea that volume training is pointless for natureals

[dustin]

but you are juiced right?


seems like getbig agrees on the idea that volume training is pointless for natureals

Probably less pointless and more detrimental than anything. Being juiced, you can train and make mistakes with a lot more forgiveness.

That was one of my biggest reasons for going on. I get chronic migraines and sometimes can't eat or train well. And if I get a status migraine (72 hours or greater) it's like having a terrible cold with a migraine on top. I used to drop like 20lbs at a time. But now that I've built up a solid foundation on and off the sauce, it's a lot different.

Did you ever put any recent thought into going on? You mentioned some BS about having to take GH, but you don't HAVE to. Do gh15's cycle that he recommended. It only costs a few hundred a month and maybe a couple hundred more if you add GH and don't have the best sources. Do a log so we can all follow along. It'd be interesting.