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current cycle
« on: December 09, 2011, 01:44:08 AM »
I'm currently in my 1st cycle ever.

Started running test@500mg week after 6 weeks of not feeling anything i added 500mg Eq with it. Im planning to stay "on" for quite some time.

So far not one side effect nor mindblowing effects either. 1st cycle you're supposed to grow like weed. Not me. I have some theories why this has not happened:

a) i have a high tolerance for drugs. Which i do. You name it, i have to take more than the average persons. Why would AAS be any different?
b) my receptors suck and so does my response to drugs.
c) my gear is bunk. I know its easy to go with this one but honestly i think is the least possible of all, as the test was bought from a pharmacy (testoviron schering)

Considering no sides are present (yet) and that i'm keeping arimidex and nolva at hand...what should i do to add more quality size? double the test? double the Eq? both?

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Re: current cycle
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 02:40:05 AM »
IF YOU FELT NOTHING AND I MEAN NOTHING, NOT EVEN LIBIDO, ACNE, WATER RETENTION OFF OF 500MG TEST...ITS BUNK BRO.
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Re: current cycle
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2011, 04:45:13 AM »
IF YOU FELT NOTHING AND I MEAN NOTHING, NOT EVEN LIBIDO, ACNE, WATER RETENTION OFF OF 500MG TEST...ITS BUNK BRO.

I've just got 4 amps more left. After that i'll switch brands. Lets see...probably up the dose too.
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Re: current cycle
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2011, 04:54:32 AM »
Dude,stop ruining yourself with high doses of test.Keep the test at 500(but be sure it's legit),add trenbologna@100 mg ed(again find it legit) and with that eq(if it's legit) you should climb mountains in no time  :D
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Re: current cycle
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2011, 05:13:26 AM »
A couple of points:

*Just because you have a high tolerance to drugs doesn't mean you will with steroids. Although anabolic steroids are legally classified as "drugs" doesn't mean they fit this label. They are only labeled as drugs as a means of control. Anabolic steroids are hormones, and there's a massive difference in hormones compared to traditional drugs. You naturally produce these hormones, you naturally produce Testosterone, Dihydrotestosterone and Nandrolone....the basis of most anabolic steroids.

*If you're trying to grow and your gear is real, you still have to eat enough to grow. You're not going to grow if you don't provide enough calories, regardless of the gear.

*A lot of guys complain about "not feeling anything" their first cycle or two. My question, what is it they expect to feel? There's no "High" there's no mental factor at play. You don't actually "feel" anything in the traditional sense of "feel." Granted, when testosterone levels are high enough you should feel pretty good, your well-being should be, for lack of a better word "enhanced" but there's no "feel."

*If your EQ is real you shouldn't expect it to pile on a ton of mass. EQ will promote mass to a degree, but an increase in strength is probably a better indicator regarding real or fake EQ.

*If your gear is real, if you're eating enough, 500mg of Testoviron alone would make any man on earth grow.

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Re: current cycle
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2011, 05:18:04 AM »
500mg of test for a first cycle is more than enough to grow, even for a poor responder. that's 5 times your natural testosterone levels, it's more than adequate to see some growth, specifically increased glycogen storage and water retention in the muscle which will be very noticeable even if your fiber density itself does not increase.

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Re: current cycle
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2011, 06:47:50 AM »
your gear is bumk
 first cycle like urs but little dbol with it. Worked out legs like twice. Barely did shoulders either. Was a idiot. Alot of upper body ate soo bad like maybe 3 shit meals a day amd still gaimed almost 30 lbs.  Ur first cycle its easy to gaim . Your shit is fake. I had testorviron amps to.  Shitty amps. Didn't work at all. Did you buy em from pharma urself or sid ur buddy say he got em from a pharma. Cux if so tham he just got em online from osca or Z. Which thereshit. Just cuz its a amp dot meam it real they are faked all the time.....

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Re: current cycle
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 06:53:39 AM »
This entire "bad responder" thing is being taken too seriously.  There really isn't any hard science behind it and i think it is used way too often when people don't respond how they "think" they should respond.  I think it's more of a individuals ability to build muscle that plays the factor, some guys just gain muscle better than others and if you are one of these lucky ones then i think you might "respond" better to AAS, but i think it is more of the persons muscle building genetics rather than their response to hormones.

I think 99% of the time it is bunk or underdosed gear that causes people to think they are a "bad responder".  A lot of guys think 500mg of test is going to blow them up when in reality it's not going to do a whole lot in 6 weeks.  This is why i think so many people complain about not growing, it takes time in order for muscle growth to actually happen.  Those first 10 pounds you gain on a cycle are 100% water, it takes months to build real muscle.  This is why i tell people to run long cycles if they want to actually make real gains.

As Arnold said, you aren't going to feel much from a small cycle.  Typically you might get a small increase in well being, but you aren't going to feel like a "God" or anything like you read on most boards.  In fact, i usually feel more irritable on cycle and the only way i know I'm on track is by looking in the mirror and gauging how the weights go up.  One thing is for sure though, if you are eating and sleeping enough you should be making gains.  If you haven't gained any strength in 6 weeks i would say you are either using fake shit or training like a pussy.  I know even when i was on 3g of combined AAS i had to get my mind right and train like a fucking animal to really see the strength gains.  

Remember, AAS don't just build muscle, they are hormones that change a ton of things in your body and it's going to take more than 6 weeks to really notice a major difference on 500mg.  Even on high doses i usually didn't start making real progress until about 8 weeks.

Just my .02 for what it's worth.


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Re: current cycle
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 09:21:07 AM »
This entire "bad responder" thing is being taken too seriously.  There really isn't any hard science behind it and i think it is used way too often when people don't respond how they "think" they should respond.  I think it's more of a individuals ability to build muscle that plays the factor, some guys just gain muscle better than others and if you are one of these lucky ones then i think you might "respond" better to AAS, but i think it is more of the persons muscle building genetics rather than their response to hormones.

I think 99% of the time it is bunk or underdosed gear that causes people to think they are a "bad responder".  A lot of guys think 500mg of test is going to blow them up when in reality it's not going to do a whole lot in 6 weeks.  This is why i think so many people complain about not growing, it takes time in order for muscle growth to actually happen.  Those first 10 pounds you gain on a cycle are 100% water, it takes months to build real muscle.  This is why i tell people to run long cycles if they want to actually make real gains.

As Arnold said, you aren't going to feel much from a small cycle.  Typically you might get a small increase in well being, but you aren't going to feel like a "God" or anything like you read on most boards.  In fact, i usually feel more irritable on cycle and the only way i know I'm on track is by looking in the mirror and gauging how the weights go up.  One thing is for sure though, if you are eating and sleeping enough you should be making gains.  If you haven't gained any strength in 6 weeks i would say you are either using fake shit or training like a pussy.  I know even when i was on 3g of combined AAS i had to get my mind right and train like a fucking animal to really see the strength gains.  

Remember, AAS don't just build muscle, they are hormones that change a ton of things in your body and it's going to take more than 6 weeks to really notice a major difference on 500mg.  Even on high doses i usually didn't start making real progress until about 8 weeks.

Just my .02 for what it's worth.


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Great Post!!!

Unfortunately, every time I see the number "99" with the % sign after it, I throw up a little in my mouth, lol!