Politifact Says Bachmann's Iran Nuke Fantasy False

[Bindare_Dundat]

Of course it is.  They're our ally. 

 Thats the dinosaur view, thankfully it's changing.

[Dos Equis]

Thats the dinosaur view, thankfully it's changing.

The dinosaur view is that Israel is our ally?  And that's changing??  How you figure? 

The only two loud voices I've heard talking about throwing Israel under the bus are Obama and Ron Paul. 

[howardroark]

The dinosaur view is that Israel is our ally?  And that's changing??  How you figure? 

The only two loud voices I've heard talking about throwing Israel under the bus are Obama and Ron Paul. 

Where has Ron Paul said that the US should throw Israel under the bus?

The only thing he's stated is that it's not in our interest to subsidize and control them. Do you disagree with that? Do you believe that the role of US foreign policy is not to protect American interests but to protect what we think is in the interest of other countries?

[Dos Equis]

Where has Ron Paul said that the US should throw Israel under the bus?

The only thing he's stated is that it's not in our interest to subsidize and control them. Do you disagree with that? Do you believe that the role of US foreign policy is not to protect American interests but to protect what we think is in the interest of other countries?

By saying he doesn't care if Iran gets nukes, dismissing Iran's threats to attack Israel, ignoring the support Iran gave to insurgents in Iraq, ignoring/downplaying the enormous threat Israel faces in the region, dismissing the established relationship we have with Israel, not carefully considering the need to have an ally in a region full of people who want to kill Americans, etc., etc. 

I disagree with much of what Ron Paul says about foreign policy.  I don't like the amount of foreign aid we give to other countries, but that's about the only thing I can think of that I agree with him on when it comes to foreign policy.  And that's because he only talks about three things primarily:  closing all military bases around the world, not spending "trillions of dollars on these wars," and ending all foreign aid. 

[howardroark]

By saying he doesn't care if Iran gets nukes, dismissing Iran's threats to attack Israel, ignoring the support Iran gave to insurgents in Iraq, ignoring/downplaying the enormous threat Israel faces in the region, dismissing the established relationship we have with Israel, not carefully considering the need to have an ally in a region full of people who want to kill Americans, etc., etc. 

I disagree with much of what Ron Paul says about foreign policy.  I don't like the amount of foreign aid we give to other countries, but that's about the only thing I can think of that I agree with him on when it comes to foreign policy.  And that's because he only talks about three things primarily:  closing all military bases around the world, not spending "trillions of dollars on these wars," and ending all foreign aid. 

So allowing Israel to conduct its own foreign policy is somehow anti-Israel? 

And I must have missed it, but why should the US conduct an altruistic foreign policy? Shouldn't we be more interested in serving our own interests and not the interests of others?

[Hugo Chavez]

I'm not saying anything about that crap George posted.  He's supporting Ron Paul so he can believe whatever the hell he wants.  I'm good with that.  If he wants to say Iran has an evil clone army awaiting to attack from the dark side of the moon, sounds fine with me.

[Hugo Chavez]

however BB and HH are extreme neocons, attack at will...

[Bindare_Dundat]

however BB and HH are extreme neocons, attack at will...

lol

[Dos Equis]

So allowing Israel to conduct its own foreign policy is somehow anti-Israel? 

And I must have missed it, but why should the US conduct an altruistic foreign policy? Shouldn't we be more interested in serving our own interests and not the interests of others?

Israel already conducts its own foreign policy. 

We need to have allies.  We need to have friends in other parts of the world, particularly near regions full of people who want to kill us.  We don't need to be handing out welfare to other countries in the amounts that we currently do, but we shouldn't be isolationist (like Ron Paul) either. 

[Bindare_Dundat]

Israel already conducts its own foreign policy. 

No they don't.

[Dos Equis]

No they don't.

Yes they do.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Yes they do.

lol

I need a beer,.

[Dos Equis]

lol

I need a beer,.

lol.  I think what's next is:  I know you are, but what am I?   

[headhuntersix]

Wow...a real bunch of  foreign policy experst right here.....Ron Paul is a fucking idiot, he's not going to get the nomination. Iran is a threat...Israel is our ally. This isn't 1938 and we can't hid behind two oceans. There is no magic go juice that will allow us to leave the middle east any time soon....sticking your head in the sand won't make all the bad people go away. We've been in retreat for 4 years under Obama and the middle east is in flames. How this is clear to you idiots who are going to waste your vote. 

[Hugo Chavez]

Wow...a real bunch of  foreign policy experst right here.....Ron Paul is a fucking idiot, he's not going to get the nomination. Iran is a threat...Israel is our ally. This isn't 1938 and we can't hid behind two oceans. There is no magic go juice that will allow us to leave the middle east any time soon....sticking your head in the sand won't make all the bad people go away. We've been in retreat for 4 years under Obama and the middle east is in flames. How this is clear to you idiots who are going to waste your vote. 

hardcore neocon and a drama queen.  nice.

[headhuntersix]

To be a NEOCON I'd have to have been a lib...never been a lib. I love the debate here....RP supporters who also voted for or support Obama....RP's foreign policy is beyond naive. Then you have a post that Iran nuking Israel shouldn't be our problem, that statement alone invalidates anything further posted by that retard.