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Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
« on: December 29, 2011, 01:39:49 AM »
Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
2011-12-29 11:12
Caracas - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Wednesday questioned whether the United States could be giving cancer to Latin American leaders, after Argentina's Cristina Kirchner was diagnosed with the disease.

"Would it be that strange if they had developed technology to induce cancer without anyone knowing about it?" Chavez asked, without offering any evidence that such technology existed.

He made the allegation against his arch-foe in a speech in which he also expressed his "solidarity" with Kirchner, whose spokesperson said on Tuesday she had been diagnosed with thyroid cancer and would undergo surgery next week.

"It's very difficult to explain at this point," Chavez said at a ceremony for national armed forces broadcast by state media.

Even "with the law of probabilities, what has been happening to some of us in Latin America... it's strange, very strange", he said.

Kirchner said earlier on Wednesday that Chavez, who has himself waged a successful battle against cancer, was the first regional leader to call her to offer support.

Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff, her predecessor Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and Paraguay's Fernando Lugo have all been diagnosed with cancer in recent years.

Rousseff and Lugo say they are cancer-free. Lula is undergoing treatment.



- AFP

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Re: Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 01:41:07 AM »
So what do the CT's say about this?

HC is a loon is what I say

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Re: Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 02:19:02 AM »
Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
2011-12-29 11:12
Caracas - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Wednesday questioned whether the United States could be giving cancer to Latin American leaders, after Argentina's Cristina Kirchner was diagnosed with the disease.

"Would it be that strange if they had developed technology

lol at the "if they had developed "technology " haha

There are rudimentary hobbiests in the freaking multiple thousands with the ability to do so if they really wanted.  This is not a difficult or a complex task whatsoever and considering there are several different ways a target may be exposed in this manner.  This is easy shit for a psycho fuck who doesn't care and there are way to many of those in both government and/or civilian life.  No new tech in this area required.

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Re: Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 06:18:39 AM »
the future will be some cool shit .  leaders in hiding 24/7 or living in lead bunkers, enemies shooting targeted radiation at people they don't like.


scary shit! 

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Re: Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 05:55:24 AM »
US slams Chavez cancer remark
2011-12-30 10:09

Washington - The US State Department on Thursday chastised Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's "reprehensible" allegation that the United States could be giving cancer to Latin American leaders.

Without providing any evidence to back up his claim, Chavez posed the rhetorical question "Would it be that strange if they had developed technology to induce cancer without anyone knowing about it?" at a ceremony for the national armed forces on Wednesday.

His comments prompted condemnation from State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland.

"With regard to the Chavez statements, let me simply say that they are horrific and reprehensible," she told reporters.

Chavez made the allegations against his arch-foe in a speech in which he expressed "solidarity" with Argentine leader Cristina Kirchner, whose office announced this week she had been diagnosed with thyroid cancer.

Even "with the law of probabilities, what has been happening to some of us in Latin America... it's strange, very strange", said Chavez, who has himself waged a successful battle against cancer.

Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff, her predecessor Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and Paraguay's Fernando Lugo have all been diagnosed with cancer in recent years.

Rousseff and Lugo say they are cancer-free. Lula is undergoing treatment.



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Re: Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 07:24:06 AM »
How about this for an explanation: Most Latin Americans are too poor to afford the kind of health care that carries them to old age. Most of them die from totally preventable diseases that don't kill off people in wealthier countries. However, their socialist leaders are able to afford this kind of health care, thanks to taxpayer money. So their leaders end up living older and suffering from all the "diseases of civilization" which usually don't affect their poorer underlings, like heart disease and cancer.

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Re: Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 07:41:22 AM »
lol at the "if they had developed "technology " haha

There are rudimentary hobbiests in the freaking multiple thousands with the ability to do so if they really wanted.  This is not a difficult or a complex task whatsoever and considering there are several different ways a target may be exposed in this manner.  This is easy shit for a psycho fuck who doesn't care and there are way to many of those in both government and/or civilian life.  No new tech in this area required.

Alright, Sean Penn. You're probably as afraid of your own shadow as comrade Hugo is of his.

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Re: Chavez ponders on 'US cancer plot'
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 08:28:48 AM »
If we had the technology 50 years ago, would we have used it on Castro?
If you look at some of the silly schemes we did try on him (below), you bet we would have used a radiation ray to target him.

Now, do we consider Hugo to be as big a threat as Castro?  With the 5th biggest oil exporter in the world, it's likely.


(These aren't CTs... Prez LBJ ordered these released in 75)

• Aerosol attack on radio station Discussion was held on a scheme to contaminate the air of the radio station in Havana where Castro broadcast his speeches with a chemical that produces reactions similar to LSD. Nothing came of the idea.

• Contaminated cigars A vague scheme involving a box of cigars treated with a chemical intended to produce temporary personality disorientation or, perhaps, cause his beard to fall out. The source was the late Jake Esterline, the CIA's project director for what became the Bay of Pigs. While vague on his recollections about the intended effect of the cigars, Esterline said he was positive they were not lethal.

• Depilatory A scheme involving thallium salt, a chemical used by women as a depilatory, placed in his shoes. The idea was to cause Castro's beard to fall out, thus damaging his image.

• Gambling syndicate -- Phase I (August 1960 - May 1961) A complicated assassination plot initiated by Richard Bissell, involving Mafia figures Sam Giancani, Santos Trafficante and Johnny Rosselli, who had contacts remaining in Havana from pre-Castro days. It was timed to coincide with the Bay of Pigs invasion, although Bissell, head of CIA covert operations at the time, never bothered to tell either Esterline, the Bay of Pigs project director, nor Marine Col. Jack Hawkins, the project's paramilitary officer. Poison pills were to be delivered to Havana and delivered to a contact inside a restaurant frequented by Castro. No one knows if the pills ever got to Havana. It was called off after the Bay of Pigs.

• Gambling syndicate -- Phase II (Late 1961 - June 1963) The same plot involving Mafia figures and poison pills was reactivated in early 1962 as part of the period of Operation Mongoose, the post-Bay of Pigs program to unseat Castro. The pills were given to Tony Varona, a prominent Cuban exile, through Johnny Rosselli, another Mafia figure. Varona then asked for arms and ammunition as well, which were passed to him by the Miami CIA station. The inspector general's report indicates uncertainty as to whether the pills ever made it to Cuba.

Schemes in early 1963

• Skin-diving suit This plot was hatched at the time New York Attorney James Donovan was negotiating with Castro for the release of the Bay of Pigs prisoners. It called for Donovan to present Castro with a skin-diving suit dusted inside with a fungus that would produce a disabling and chronic skin disease and contaminating the breathing apparatus with the bacterium that causes tuberculosis. The skin-diving suit already had been bought but was abandoned when it was learned Donovan already had given Castro a skin-diving suit on his own initiative.


• Booby-trapped seashell The idea was to take an unusually spectacular seashell that would catch Castro's attention, load it with an explosive triggered to blow when the seashell was lifted, and submerge it in an area Castro was known to frequent for skin-diving. The plan progressed so far that Desmond Fitzgerald, then head of the CIA's Cuban operations, bought two books on Caribbean mollusks. It was later decided the scheme was impracticable for a variety of reasons, among them that a midget submarine to have been used in placing the seashell had too short an operating range.

• Project Amlash-Rolando Cubela Cubela, whose code name was Amlash, was a member of Castro's inner circle from the beginning. He had become disenchanted and made contact with the CIA as early as 1961. Nestor Sanchez, his CIA case officer, was meeting with Cubela in Paris when President Kennedy was killed in Dallas, Texas, November 22, 1963. Sanchez provided Cubela that day -- at Cubela's request -- a poison pen-syringe to be used either on Castro or on himself, in case of a failed attempt. Nothing happened. As CIA covert operations against Castro began winding down, the Agency put Cubela in touch with Manuel Artime, the exiled chief of a 300-member, CIA-funded exile guerrilla army operating for Central America. The joint Artime-Cubela plan was for Cubela to assassinate Castro when he gave his annual July 26, 1965, speech at Varadero, a beach resort on Cuba's north coast. The assassination would coincide with a seaborne invasion by Artime's forces with the presumed support of several Cuban army officers in the area. The operation was canceled in late June 1965 after it became compromised