here is the thing with ronnie,he was still mr. olympia when he got hurt,and was going after haneys record,so you cant really blame him for trying a couple more years,and really couldnt have lokked that bad in those two olympias,as he placed 2nd and 4th,and what he has been doing lately is guestposing,i have seen a lot of top guys in their prime guess pose in worst shape,you guys post pics of them all the time.