diabetes and hgh

[evser]

People using 10+ ius of gh without slin... any fear of becoming diabetic? Im bumping my dose from 5-10 iu and was worried about this. Is there any way to avoid the issue?

[Overload]

It's an extreme exaggeration.

I know plenty of guys who have been on 10+iu for years who have never touched Slin.

If you already have issues with sugar, then you might want to take precautions, but the average person will not have any issues with this at all.

[evser]

damn good to know lol i have a bit of anxiety when it comes to these things. 10iu it is!

[matrixgh]

if no one in your family have diabetes and your blood sugar normal or low , then you will be fine

[aesthetics]

diabetes is mostly genetic. i have a terrible terrible diet but my blood sugar always seems to be within normal range even though my insulin resistance is through the roof

[MuscleMcMannus]

diabetes is mostly genetic. i have a terrible terrible diet but my blood sugar always seems to be within normal range even though my insulin resistance is through the roof

LOL what utter bullshit.  Type II diabetes is hardly genetic.  Type I or insulin dependent yes.  You're probably young, dumb, and full of cum as they say like most invincible 20 somethings.  Even guys in their early 30s love to spout how benign steroid use is.  It can be.  But like the guy above you said if you think for a second 10 years of regular GH use isn't going to cause you health problems when you are in your 50s and 60's your an idiot plain and simple.  Steroids especially short term and cycled properly probably won't effect you later in life.  But the way you young guys are taking shit most of you will end up with all types of problems.  Lots of guys from the 70s 80s are running into all kinds of health related problems stemming from steroid use.  And those guys took significantly  less than most 20 year olds nowadays.  The young body is extremely resillient.  But there is a point where that goes away. 

[MuscleMcMannus]

It's an extreme exaggeration.

I know plenty of guys who have been on 10+iu for years who have never touched Slin.

If you already have issues with sugar, then you might want to take precautions, but the average person will not have any issues with this at all.

I like how matter of fact you say that when serious research has stated otherwise. 

[El Diablo Blanco]

UTTER BULLSHIT BRO SCIENCE REPLIES.

You need to go and find some real scientific studies and not some bullshit "I know a guy at the gym...."

There is a lot unknown about long term effects of HGH but so far most scientific studies don't show too many positive things.

[aesthetics]

LOL what utter bullshit.  Type II diabetes is hardly genetic.  Type I or insulin dependent yes.  You're probably young, dumb, and full of cum as they say like most invincible 20 somethings.  Even guys in their early 30s love to spout how benign steroid use is.  It can be.  But like the guy above you said if you think for a second 10 years of regular GH use isn't going to cause you health problems when you are in your 50s and 60's your an idiot plain and simple.  Steroids especially short term and cycled properly probably won't effect you later in life.  But the way you young guys are taking shit most of you will end up with all types of problems.  Lots of guys from the 70s 80s are running into all kinds of health related problems stemming from steroid use.  And those guys took significantly  less than most 20 year olds nowadays.  The young body is extremely resillient.  But there is a point where that goes away. 

yes, people who develop type 2 is also dictated heavily by genetics. in my family, you wouldn't believe the shit that was eaten, the amounts of junk food and how obese family members got - no signs of diabetes ever though. i know skinny people that have gotten type 2, so yes, it is more complicated than just the people who eat a lot of junk food.

[Overload]

I like how matter of fact you say that when serious research has stated otherwise. 

I've read all the research and tested in on myself. My BG never moves after using GH.

It's an extreme exaggeration and a very rare occurrence.

It's just like anything else in life, some people have issues, most don't.

Feel free to post up your proof that GH cause diabetes.

[Overload]

UTTER BULLSHIT BRO SCIENCE REPLIES.

You need to go and find some real scientific studies and not some bullshit "I know a guy at the gym...."

There is a lot unknown about long term effects of HGH but so far most scientific studies don't show too many positive things.

Prove it.

I answered his question directly. I told him I knew guys on 10iu of GH that never used slin because he asked if slin was needed.

Read it again.

[Overload]

J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2011 Aug;96(:2548-57. Epub 2011 May 25.
Growth hormone (GH)-induced insulin resistance is rapidly reversible: an experimental study in GH-deficient adults.
Krusenstjerna-Hafstrøm T, Clasen BF, Møller N, Jessen N, Pedersen SB, Christiansen JS, Jørgensen JO.
SourceDepartment of Internal Medicine and Endocrinology and Medical Research Laboratories, Aarhus University Hospital, Denmark. tk-h@dadlnet.dk

Abstract
CONTEXT: It is clinically relevant and of physiological interest to investigate whether GH-induced insulin resistance depends on the timing of GH exposure relative to when insulin sensitivity is assessed.

HYPOTHESIS: GH-induced insulin resistance is rapidly reversible.

DESIGN AND PARTICIPANTS: Eight male GH-deficient patients underwent a 6-h euglycemic-hyperinsulinemic glucose clamp thrice in a randomized crossover design receiving either no GH (study 0), a 7-h GH infusion (0.2-0.3 mg in total) that terminated 5 h before the clamp (study 1), or a similar GH infusion timed to continue during the first hour of the clamp (study 2). A muscle biopsy was obtained 30 min into the clamp. The patients were compared with eight healthy untreated control subjects (study c).

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: The glucose infusion rate, indirect calorimetry, and free fatty acid metabolism were assessed. In muscle biopsies, protein phosphorylation of signal transducer and activator of transcription 5, Akt, and Akt substrate 160 (phospho-Akt substrate signal) and gene expression of IGF-I and SOCS1-3 were assessed.

RESULTS: Insulin sensitivity differed significantly between the GH-deficiency studies (P = 0.005) with distinct insulin resistance in study 2 and increased insulin sensitivity in study 0 [area under the glucose infusion rate curve (mg/kg · min): 1663 ± 151 (study 0) vs. 1482 ± 166 (study 1) vs. 1123 ± 136 (study 2) vs. 1492 ± 229 (control group)]. Free fatty acid levels and lipid oxidation were elevated in response to GH exposure but became suppressed during the clamp. IGF-I and SOCS3 gene expression was increased in study 2.

CONCLUSIONS: Very-low-dose GH exposure evokes acute insulin resistance that subsides after 5 h. This time-dependent reversibility should be considered when assessing the impact of GH on glucose homeostasis.

PMID:21613350[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[lyquid]

LOL what utter bullshit.  Type II diabetes is hardly genetic.  Type I or insulin dependent yes.  You're probably young, dumb, and full of cum as they say like most invincible 20 somethings.  Even guys in their early 30s love to spout how benign steroid use is.  It can be.  But like the guy above you said if you think for a second 10 years of regular GH use isn't going to cause you health problems when you are in your 50s and 60's your an idiot plain and simple.  Steroids especially short term and cycled properly probably won't effect you later in life.  But the way you young guys are taking shit most of you will end up with all types of problems.  Lots of guys from the 70s 80s are running into all kinds of health related problems stemming from steroid use.  And those guys took significantly  less than most 20 year olds nowadays.  The young body is extremely resillient.  But there is a point where that goes away. 
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Don't wanna be rude but what u said is pretty funny. Most of those bbers from sevenitys or earlier are fine and there health problems are most likely age related . Who cares if one bber out of thousands have a heart attack. That's really good odds since our of normal people everyone either has cancer diabetis heart attacks chrons disease u name it. Bodybuilders have least of health problematic compared to the general public. Well out live the majority of people gaurentee it.

[Overload]

I just found a study saying HGH causes illicit substance abuse.

Found another one stating that HGH increases the chance for a tendon rupture.

I also found about 20 other conflicting reports if any of you care...

[DOHCrazy]

I just found a study saying HGH causes illicit substance abuse.

Found another one stating that HGH increases the chance for a tendon rupture.

I also found about 20 other conflicting reports if any of you care...

You can find a study to say anything, haha.

[Overload]

You can find a study to say anything, haha.

Exactly my point!