If you were to offer your years of wisdom...

[Marlo Stanfield]

If you were to offer your years of steroid use in a single paragraph as a words of wisdom, what would it be? Other than " i wish i started sooner".  Did you have to pay a price to learn a lesson? if so, what was it?

[El Diablo Blanco]

I would be to stay out of this filt cult and spend time building a lean body via pushups and situps and score more bitches that way.

[Marlo Stanfield]

I would be to stay out of this filt cult and spend time building a lean body via pushups and situps and score more bitches that way.

Have you done steroids? did you abuse it?

wouldnt TRT doses help you be that lean muscular fucking machine? it seems alot of people get sucked in and take wayy too much, and dont get to enjoy life, because steroids and big muscles become their life

So are you against asteroids in general now? or just the mega doses?

[aesthetics]

get blood tests and learn your own body; only do what gets results, and most importantly, doesn't make you feel miserable; don't listen to anyone telling you that you need to do 'X' always.

one sentence, run-on sentence but whatever

[BiGHer]

Steroids are an amazing thing, but they need to be treated with caution and respect.  Abuse is not necessary unless you are truly trying to become a high level fitness athlete/bodybuilder.  Do not forget about your health.  Regular visits to the doctor should be had and making sure your blood levels are good along with your organs funtioning properly is also very important.  Use pharmacy grade everything if you can and don't turn to UG Labs if you don't have to.  If you do, make sure you do your research and buy from a trusted source.  Also, and never forget, steroids are a drug like anything else.  Just like you come down a few hours after having smoked some weed, you will lose the muscle you gained from steroids once the drug is no longer in your system.

[makaveli25]

Honestly I love them for myself. It's a total money pit though.You really think people care how big you are. It's totally ego driven it's an addiction. People only care about themselves. I could of bought a new car with the money I spent.

If you do it make sure you're careful. Get blood work done.

[tbombz]

experiment.

[StackedDec]

My bro fucked his back up trying to buck me off him when I took his back today after he muscled up on me and got side control, went for an americana,  not good technique, wrong side, I escaped and took his back. 

Hes 215lbs nat. I was always 150 to 165lbs nat.  He would ragdoll me.  Took his back, worked for a few minutes for a choke, he defended well, I taught him well.  He shoots up trying to buck me and hurts his back, not bad just a stinger. I was 202lbs in my winter coat.  He thought I was 170ish. LOL

I would never have been heavier than 170lbs, I would never be physically equal to him, he's 6'1", I'm a shade over 5'10", and I shared the womb with my sister, so I didn't get the advantages he had as a fetus/infant.

Now, we are nearly equal, and I don't have 1 friend that has ever been his equal.  The guy naturally hang cleans 300lbs, and has hands like vice grips and thighs like tree trunks, and he still can run fast as fuck for being 31 and sitting in a truck all day.  I mean this fucking guy is a specimen, a legit 4 star college football recruit in his day, once he got rammed by a waverunner with a 300lb baffoon on it, hand to have been going 15mph, rammed straight in his thigh, and it lauched him about 30 ft, and he ends up with a bad bruise.  I would have shattered my femur, in about 50 places, and could have even died from that kind of impact and resulting injury.  I've seen him break facemasks off helmets, break bones on routine hits, and knock people out with a simple shoulder barge.

Equals.
Equals.

Not really, but AAS has made me closer than I ever thought possible.  BTW before I ever did a cycle was our last real fight, when I was about 17 and he was 19.  I won.

[chess315]

Honestly I love them for myself. It's a total money pit though.You really think people care how big you are. It's totally ego driven it's an addiction. People only care about themselves. I could of bought a new car with the money I spent.

If you do it make sure you're careful. Get blood work done.

I think people actually do care how big you are lol for many reasons they don't want there ass kicked and girls like guys in shape so don't kid yourself.

[nosleep]

DO YOU.

STICK TO COMPOUNDS THAT WORK BEST WITH YOU.
MAKE SURE YOUR GEAR IS LEGIT.
UNDERSTAND WHICH PRODUCTS WORK WHERE.
GAUGE WHAT DIETARY PROTOCOLS SUITS YOU NOT WHAT SOME DUDE ON THE NET SAYS, SAME APPLIES TO LIFTING.

[BodyMachine]

I think most beginners today should start out only with Test at a moderate dose (300mg) and slowly build until they see how they react and to give their body time to adjust. Pushing too much too soon too fast can be a shock to your body as I learned the hard way many years ago. It's also important for ppl to get their blood work done if they are going to be supplementing on their own. Example high E2 can cause issues for some people and simply thinking "well I don't see any gyno" isn't an indication that it's in check.

[lyquid]

I think most beginners today should start out only with Test at a moderate dose (300mg) and slowly build until they see how they react and to give their body time to adjust. Pushing too much too soon too fast can be a shock to your body as I learned the hard way many years ago. It's also important for ppl to get their blood work done if they are going to be supplementing on their own. Example high E2 can cause issues for some people and simply thinking "well I don't see any gyno" isn't an indication that it's in check.

Testostoner one of worst for dht and estrogen conversion. Most the side effects with least gains. No gh no test.

Welcome to the bald prostate enlarged bitch tits bodybuilders of today. Testosterone.


My advice is look at why past fourty yrs deca or deca dbol or any other compounds were favorites.

And start gh as soon as u can if u wanna go far. Everyone will agree with legit gh u will grow so lean and so big so fast u will feel u wastes a lot of time.

[Pumplex]

IMHO

* Test is overrated, fake bloated water muscle, keep it in HRT range 70-200mg weekly and rely more on quality compounds like: tren, primo, winny, var, eq

* STAY AWAY from water compounds like Dbol, Deca, Drol, ... UNTILL you reach MINIMUM 8% true bf ... even then results will be TEMPORARY!

* Masteron is great at keeping water down but doesn't do shit for lean muscle, again, very temporaral compound, which is why I keep it in AT ALL TIMES (~1:1 with test)

* High dose Anavar is my favorite oral, can go really high on it without ANY sides, but I avoid it mainly because of price and the fact I like to drink here and here, so shoot me

* Trenbolone is NOT a hazardous comound at ALL, I've had bloodwork come back on 800mg tren ace, which have been my healthiest to date!!

* When/if using HGH make sure to go ALL OR NOTHING, being 22 I don't benefit at all from 3-4ui daily, prefer shorter 8-12 week high dose cycles at 6-8ui (NORDITROPIN HG)


...all I can think of right now: currently running based on above principles:

125 test
200 mast
500 bold (would prefer Primo but financial focus lies somewhere else atm)
500 tren

cruise:

70 test
100 mast

[Rearden Metal]

- If you are not willing to diet and do a competition yearly to every 18mo's, don't bother.
- Don't bulk without gh in your blood, and fucking eat like a man already.
- Don't bother with gh unless you're planning on running it a long time at increasing doses.
- Be consistent in all areas.
- Have immaculate connections
- You won't win without taking risks. That being said, have a fucking life and some other interests. Nobody likes a meathead.

[makaveli25]

- If you are not willing to diet and do a competition yearly to every 18mo's, don't bother.
- Don't bulk without gh in your blood, and fucking eat like a man already.
- Don't bother with gh unless you're planning on running it a long time at increasing doses.
- Be consistent in all areas.
- Have immaculate connections
- You won't win without taking risks. That being said, have a fucking life and some other interests. Nobody likes a meathead.

I agree with all those except the first one. I feel no need to compete. My competetion takes place in the summertime when I play rec sports and go to the beach. I walk around with no shirt everywhere in the summer. Enough of a reason for me.

[buselmo]

save your money. during that time, get down to 6% bf by only using 500-1000 mg test and find out what kind of food agrees with your body, and what kind of training you like to do that produces results.
with all the money you've saved over the years trying to get down to this level, spend it on quality gear and GH that will last for a 2 year cycle. start off with 1 gram of gear and 4 iu GH per day, increase dose every 3 months by 30-60% until you reach a dose of 3 grams of gear and 12 iu GH per day. stay at that dose til the end of the two years and make sure when you come off, you come off at anything below 8% fat.
then just go on hrt (real HRT... like 100-150 test per week) and just do cycles of 1500 mg test to maintain what you built (sort of). and if you can afford it, stay on 2-4 iu gh.

if you want to be a pro bodybuilder and win contests left and right and make money out of it... i'd tell you to grow the fuck up and get a real job or get an education. your chances of making it in the WWE are much higher and it's a lot more fun. LOL

[tbombz]

DO YOU.

STICK TO COMPOUNDS THAT WORK BEST WITH YOU.
MAKE SURE YOUR GEAR IS LEGIT.
UNDERSTAND WHICH PRODUCTS WORK WHERE.
GAUGE WHAT DIETARY PROTOCOLS SUITS YOU NOT WHAT SOME DUDE ON THE NET SAYS, SAME APPLIES TO LIFTING.

nice

[efanhowz]

All of the above
Don't do pct unless you commit to actually staying off for 6+ months