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Does Obama understand basic civics?
« on: May 08, 2012, 02:10:42 PM »
Obama pushes Congress ‘to-do list’ in Albany speech
By David Nakamura, Updated: Tuesday, May 8, 2:13 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-pushes-congress-to-do-list-in-albany-speech/2012/05/08/gIQA9NBxAU_print.html



ALBANY, N.Y. — President Obama called on Congress Tuesday to support a five-point “to-do list” that features job creation and mortgage relief measures, in his latest effort to paint the legislative body as a obstructionist force during an election year.

Obama has proposed all of the measures before. But as Washington has grown more polarized during the presidential campaign season, the president has been trying to use Congress as a foil to highlight his administration’s efforts to pass legislation to stimulate the economy.

“In this make or break moment for the middle class, there is no excuse for inaction, no excuse for dragging our feet. None,” Obama told the crowd at a nanotechnology facility at the State University of New York at Albany.

During Obama’s remarks, two flat-screen television monitors showed a graphic in the form of a green Post-It Note titled “Congress To-Do List” and laying out the five items with un-checked squares next to them.

Obama told the crowd that everyone could see the list on the White House Web site.

“It’s about the size of a Post-It Note so every member of Congress should have time to read it,” the president quipped, drawing laughs.

Since the start of the year, Obama has pushed Congress to support his economic agenda, casting Republican lawmakers as opposing him for political gain. The president hopes to tie opponent Mitt Romney to congressional Republicans at a time when Congress’s approval ratings are at 17 percent, according to a recent Gallup poll.

Republicans pushed back against the White House, noting that they have supported several of Obama’s initiatives, including the payroll tax cut, long-term unemployment insurance and several free-trade agreements.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said Tuesday that he welcomes Obama’s focus on job creation but that the GOP remains opposed to a White House plan to give 10 percent income tax cuts to firms that create new jobs or dole out raises this year.

“We believe that we ought to let the investors decide on how best to allocate their capital so that we can see small business grow again,” Cantor said. “But these are differences that we can overcome and differences we can resolve if the president will just join us in saying we’ve got to solve these problems.”

In his remarks, Obama pressed Capitol Hill Republicans to support his proposals for a 20 percent tax cut for businesses that bring manufacturing jobs back from overseas and a 10 percent tax credit for companies that hire workers and increase wages. The president used the backdrop of the high-tech facility to emphasize the need for investments in new technologies that will help the nation remain competitive in a quickly changing global workplace.

Another initiative on his to-do list would allow homeowners to refinance at lower interest rates, a proposal he will highlight during a stop later this week in Reno, Nev., where foreclosures are at the highest rates in the nation. The president also is calling for a Veterans Jobs Corps to help service members returning from Iraq and Afghanistan get jobs as police and firefighters.

Obama also challenged Republicans who contend that his government is “bloated,” saying that his administration has created private sector jobs even as public hiring remains sluggish. He contrasted that to his Republican predecessors, who he said increased government hiring as part of their economic recoveries.

“I made this point so you don’t buy into this whole bloated government argument,” Obama said.

Wrapping up his speech, Obama ad-libbed two more items, demanding that Congress not allow federally subsidized student loan interest rates to double this summer and to approve a transportation bill that would provide funds for construction projects. The Senate defeated a measure Tuesday that would have kept the low rates for another year.

House Minority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said the president should instead press Senate Democrats to pass a budget: “How can you continue to run a business or a country with no budget? Three years in a row, a trillion-dollar deficit year over year and no budget.”

The trip marks a rare recent venture for the president into a state that is not an electoral battleground, but New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, one of the nation’s most popular Democratic governors, will join him at the event. And Obama is eager to appeal to working class, blue-collar voters in the Northeast and Rust Belt.

In his introductory remarks, Cuomo lauded Obama and New York’s economic turnaround and even employed Obama’s campaign slogan, “Forward.”

“Mr. President, I can promise you this: because of your leadership this state is not going backwards, this state is going forward,” Cuomo said to applause from the assembled guests.

The White House had initially planned to send Obama to Asheville, N.C., but scuttled the plans two weeks ago and announced he would instead speak in Albany. The Raleigh News & Observer noted Tuesday that the state was holding a vote on a controversial amendment to the state constitution that would ban gay marriage. Obama has not supported gay marriage, saying his views are “evolving,” a position that has drawn heat from liberal supporters.




Staff writer Ed O’Keefe in Washington contributed to this story.


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Re: Does Obama understand basic civics?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 02:22:05 PM »
I bet you Obama could find a few things he could get passed through the Republican-controlled House if he truly believes the things he says.

Obama has stated that he thinks our corporate tax is too high... so why not a compromise: cut corporate tax rate to 15% while installing the Buffet rule of a minimum 30% tax rate. That would (on net) slightly cut taxes on investment for the wealthy - a trade which would placate the uber left base of Obama's which doesn't understand the notion of double taxation of income while encouraging the pro-growth independents and Republicans who do understand double taxation.

Or why not a payroll tax cut paid for by spending cuts elsewhere in the budget? I mean, Medicare waste alone accounts for at least $50 BILLION in federal spending. And considering the fact that most lower-income and middle-income families pay more in payroll taxes than in federal income taxes, doesn't it make sense to focus on the payroll tax?

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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 02:23:20 PM »
I bet you Obama could find a few things he could get passed through the Republican-controlled House if he truly believes the things he says.

Obama has stated that he thinks our corporate tax is too high... so why not a compromise: cut corporate tax rate to 15% while installing the Buffet rule of a minimum 30% tax rate. That would (on net) slightly cut taxes on investment for the wealthy - a trade which would placate the uber left base of Obama's which doesn't understand the notion of double taxation of income while encouraging the pro-growth independents and Republicans who do understand double taxation.

Or why not a payroll tax cut paid for by spending cuts elsewhere in the budget? I mean, Medicare waste alone accounts for at least $50 BILLION in federal spending. And considering the fact that most lower-income and middle-income families pay more in payroll taxes than in federal income taxes, doesn't it make sense to focus on the payroll tax?


Its about "fairness" for him, not actually getting anything done. 

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Re: Does Obama understand basic civics?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 03:55:34 AM »
         
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May 9, 2012
Obama's Ridiculous To-Do List
By David Harsanyi
President Barack Obama has compiled a handy to-do list for Congress that, "if acted upon quickly, will create jobs and help restore middle class security," according to the White House's blog. And it's about time. This is most certainly not, as cynics might suggest, another transparent political scheme. After all, these initiatives, the White House claims, enjoy bipartisan support -- which, I gather, is meant to impress you, even if it's not exactly true.

Regrettably, the sentiment of the to-do list does garner bipartisan support and illustrates how cheap populism leads to bad policy and why Washington shouldn't be in the business of "creating jobs" in the first place.


Obama says passing his to-do list would help create "an economy built to last -- one that creates the jobs of the future and makes things the rest of the world buys -- not one built on outsourcing, loopholes, and risky financial deals." History tells us that when government "creates" an economy, it won't be much of an economy to speak of -- but here's the new plan:

"Reward American Jobs, Not Outsourcing." Hey, let's play on the genuine frustration of struggling Americans. Most politicians will latch on to this protectionist notion to some extent. But need it really be repeated that outsourcing, by generating more productivity, creates more wealth and more jobs? On this point, most economists actually agree.

But even if you believe "outsourcing" is a job killer, does anyone believe the notion that "passing legislation that gives companies a new 20 percent tax credit for the cost of moving their operations" will make a dent on employment? Liberals frequently argue that high corporate taxes aren't chasing companies abroad, yet a one-time tax break on moving expenses is now a cornerstone of "an economy built to last"?

To do: "Create Jobs By Investing In Affordable Clean Energy." It is difficult to calculate just how many subsidies and breaks are already "invested" in unproductive clean-energy projects -- many of them supported by Republicans. Whether it be morally fulfilling or good for the environment, an expansion of "the 30 percent tax credit to investments in clean energy manufacturing" could cost jobs, not create them. As one Spanish study found, 2.2 conventional jobs are destroyed for every job created in the alternative energy industry. "Investing" in inefficient energy is no way to economic growth.

There are other feel-good to-dos on the list: "Invest in a New Hire Tax Credit For Small Business," wherein Washington jump-starts new hiring by giving "a 10 percent income tax credit for firms that create new jobs or increase wages in 2012." Losing money? Give a raise; get a tax break.

Then there is the admirable "Put Returning Veterans to Work Using Skills Developed in the Military." (Hey, Republicans, why do you hate veterans?)

Also to do: "Cut Red Tape So Responsible Homeowners Can Refinance" -- wherein Congress passes legislation to cut red tape in the mortgage market, allowing "responsible" homeowners to refinance at today's lower rates. Guess what? Banks already allow responsible homeowners to refinance, and there are tons of government programs designed to help homeowners. Is it good for the economy? That's another story.

But according to White House press secretary Jay Carney, the function of the to-do list is that it ensures that come election time, Republicans will have to explain to their constituents "what they did while they were in Washington these last two years. Did they just say no?"

Correct answer: I didn't say "no" enough.

The problem is that so-called fiscal conservatives say "yes" too often to populist notions masquerading as policy. With the state of the economy, what's scarier, that the administration would pretend that these are serious proposals or that the president might actually believe they are?

Copyright 2012, Creators Syndicate Inc.

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Re: Does Obama understand basic civics?
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 06:07:46 PM »
I bet you Obama could find a few things he could get passed through the Republican-controlled House if he truly believes the things he says.

Obama has stated that he thinks our corporate tax is too high... so why not a compromise: cut corporate tax rate to 15% while installing the Buffet rule of a minimum 30% tax rate. That would (on net) slightly cut taxes on investment for the wealthy - a trade which would placate the uber left base of Obama's which doesn't understand the notion of double taxation of income while encouraging the pro-growth independents and Republicans who do understand double taxation.

Or why not a payroll tax cut paid for by spending cuts elsewhere in the budget? I mean, Medicare waste alone accounts for at least $50 BILLION in federal spending. And considering the fact that most lower-income and middle-income families pay more in payroll taxes than in federal income taxes, doesn't it make sense to focus on the payroll tax?



Maybe, but I highly doubt it.  They're so fucking divided between House & Senate it's pretty much at a crawl.  The Senate has bagged just about everything coming from the House and the House isn't acting on shit from Obama.

Actually...it's 33's dream - near total gridlock!  :D

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Re: Does Obama understand basic civics?
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Maybe, but I highly doubt it.  They're so fucking divided between House & Senate it's pretty much at a crawl.  The Senate has bagged just about everything coming from the House and the House isn't acting on shit from Obama.

Actually...it's 33's dream - near total gridlock!  :D

My dream politically is for Obama to lose in November ala 1984 Reagan mondale.