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Disgusting. So if the majority at the caucus want to ellect Ron Paul delgates that means that the other voters dont have a voice and therefore it isnt fair to everyoen else. WTF?! That is how elections are won is it not? Does this mean that Romney or Santorum must share their delegates with the others as well? No. Only when Paul has a chance of winning do the rules change.

"Not going to allow Ron Paul to shut out the vote of three other candidates."


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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 09:47:04 AM »
you cockstick fcktwat repubs deserve another 4 years of being assraped by obama.  period.  that's it.  cause you have people like this openly admitting to changing the outcome cause he doesn't support ron paul.

fck it, enjoy obama, enjoy it cause you intentionally shit on ron paul, who did represent many repubs, who would have been a huge draw with independents AND far-right conservaties.  You dumbshhits begging for war with iran - enjoy obama.  dipshits.

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 09:56:14 AM »
you cockstick fcktwat repubs deserve another 4 years of being assraped by obama.  period.  that's it.  cause you have people like this openly admitting to changing the outcome cause he doesn't support ron paul.

fck it, enjoy obama, enjoy it cause you intentionally shit on ron paul, who did represent many repubs, who would have been a huge draw with independents AND far-right conservaties.  You dumbshhits begging for war with iran - enjoy obama.  dipshits.

channeling 333386? lol

The media perpetuated this whole frame of mind. Now that its work is done and the brainwashed morons of the establishment GOP have taken over the sabotage plan, the media can go into blackout mode and hide all this bullshit.

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2012, 10:11:53 AM »
channeling 333386? lol

The media perpetuated this whole frame of mind. Now that its work is done and the brainwashed morons of the establishment GOP have taken over the sabotage plan, the media can go into blackout mode and hide all this bullshit.

seriously, i see this guy talking - he's outright telling them to go out and publicly support his bullshit of exclusing ron paul pluralities as per the rules - but saying he can't do it himself.  Unreal. 

It's going to take the dems winning, repubs doing another 4 years of soul searching, and (hopefully) them being smart enough to IGNORE Levin and hannity when they decide to start trashing RAND Paul in 2016. 

We all remember in 2008, when CTers on getbig whined about how the right-wing media subtly trashed ron paul.   Repubs/loyalists/whatever said that was nonsense.  FOUR years later, they're admitting "well, okay, hannity and levin ARE trashing paul, but they have a good reason, he doesn't wanna bomb iran..."

That IS Progress!   

By 2016, all the party loyalists who are currently supporting Levin's little campaign might just realize he's full of shit.  They might support RAND Paul, even if their radio masters tell them otherwise.  Cause for 4 years (of additional obama rule), they will ask themselves why they lost.  They'll ask themselves why they put up Bob Dole II in the form of Mitt Romney, the biggest flipflopper in the last 30 years from the GOP.   

And maybe, just maybe, they'll wake the fck up.  They woke up a little in 2012, in admitting the right wing media was biased against paul.  We'll see in 2016.  In the meantime, you enjoy gobbling another 4 years of obama cawk, cause you deserve it.  You ignored ron paul when he would have united conservatives + moderates + youth alike.

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 10:19:52 AM »
Meh.  He's right.  You get a group of Ron Paul supporters in the room and they can shout down others.  A small but vocal minority. 

This isn't about some conspiracy.  The man doesn't have the votes. 

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 11:47:54 AM »
Meh.  He's right.  You get a group of Ron Paul supporters in the room and they can shout down others.  A small but vocal minority.  

This isn't about some conspiracy.  The man doesn't have the votes.  

 The Paul group is more organized and brings out the numbers at these caucusus, it's the way these things are won when the rules are followed. It has nothing to do with "shouting down" the others. Its a numbers game based on whos is there and is not based  on a pre selected list some guy decides best represents the people's wishes. I don't know why you keep ignoring this fact. No one has a problem with this when the delegates are split with a popular vote and anyone but Paul is the winner.

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 11:55:26 AM »
seriously, i see this guy talking - he's outright telling them to go out and publicly support his bullshit of exclusing ron paul pluralities as per the rules - but saying he can't do it himself.  Unreal.  



According to Beach Bum this how democracy should work. Orders come down from above as to who the winner will be and everyone should be ok with this. Bascially, the vote of the majority, the ones  who take the time to show up and go through the outlined process and do the work neccessary to be heard, well, their voting effort means nothing.

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 12:02:15 PM »
The Paul group is more organized and brings out the numbers at these caucusus, it's the way these things are won when the rules are followed. It has nothing to do with "shouting down" the others. Its a numbers game based on whos is there and is not on a pre selected list some guy decides best represents the people's wishes. I don't know why you keep ignoring this fact. No one has a problem with this when the delegates are split with a popular vote and anyone but Paul is the winner.

What they do is find sparsely attended events, bring out a small but cohesive group, and try and distort results.  And yes, they do disrupt events all the time.  (Not all of his supporters are like this.)  They tried to do it here in 2008.  There are not enough Ron Paul supporters for him to be a contender.  That's what the primaries and caucuses have shown so far.  He's far behind in the popular vote, delegate count, and hasn't won a single primary or caucus. 

Have you looked at his poll numbers in Texas?  He's in last place.  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/tx/texas_republican_presidential_primary-1598.html 

If you look at his performance in 2008 and 2012, he has gotten more exposure than his performance warrants. 

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2012, 12:06:06 PM »
According to Beach Bum this how democracy should work. Orders come down from above as to who the winner will be and everyone should be ok with this. Bascially, the vote of the majority, the ones  who take the time to show up and go through the outlined process and do the work neccessary to be heard, well, their voting effort means nothing.

This may come as a complete shock to you, but the guy who is getting the majority of the votes is actually winning.
 
Popular vote tally:

Romney - 4,078,166
Santorum - 2,759,236
Gingrich -  2,182,346
Paul - 1,068,291

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_vote_count.html

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2012, 12:07:07 PM »
This may come as a complete shock to you, but the guy who is getting the majority of the votes is actually winning.
 
Popular vote tally:

Romney - 4,078,166
Santorum - 2,759,236
Gingrich -  2,182,346
Paul - 1,068,291

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_vote_count.html

Do you understand how the delegate process works?

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2012, 12:13:09 PM »
Do you understand how the delegate process works?

A little.   :)

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2012, 02:35:24 PM »
enjoy your 4 more years of taking it up the ass from obama.  you deserve it for being so stupid.

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2012, 04:32:04 PM »
St. Louis held their Caucus today in 2 places

Paul's supporters cast a majority vote with 158 ballots. The Santorum slate had 74 votes, while Romney's backers mustered 50 votes.

and

Paul's supporters won about two-thirds of Jackson County's 179 delegates. The remaining Jackson County delegates support Romney.


I found this funny.

In some caucuses around Missouri, Paul’s numbers were so commanding that supporters of Romney, the frontrunner for the nomination, sided with Paul to keep delegates from Santorum.


http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/ron-paul-supporters-dominate-gop-caucuses-in-st-louis-jackson/article_4c7977d4-75e0-11e1-858e-001a4bcf6878.html#ixzz1q51mmYCV


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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2012, 06:25:08 PM »
St. Louis held their Caucus today in 2 places

Paul's supporters cast a majority vote with 158 ballots. The Santorum slate had 74 votes, while Romney's backers mustered 50 votes.

and

Paul's supporters won about two-thirds of Jackson County's 179 delegates. The remaining Jackson County delegates support Romney.


I found this funny.

In some caucuses around Missouri, Paul’s numbers were so commanding that supporters of Romney, the frontrunner for the nomination, sided with Paul to keep delegates from Santorum.


http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/ron-paul-supporters-dominate-gop-caucuses-in-st-louis-jackson/article_4c7977d4-75e0-11e1-858e-001a4bcf6878.html#ixzz1q51mmYCV



lol, Just a loud minority, right BB?

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2012, 06:53:00 PM »
enjoy your 4 more years of taking it up the ass from obama.  you deserve it for being so stupid.

Is this the same person who said they were probably voting for Obama in 2008, supported every candidate but Ron Paul the past year or so, and failed to vote for Ron Paul in the Florida primary? 

And the same person who has been hanging from Obama's short and curly since the inauguration? 

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2012, 06:54:06 PM »
lol, Just a loud minority, right BB?

Absolutely.  How else do you explain his performance on election day?  Other than some crazy conspiracy . . . .

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Re: St. Charles Caucus: Bryan Spencer admits to rigging the outcome
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2012, 07:05:23 PM »
Absolutely.  How else do you explain his performance on election day?  Other than some crazy conspiracy . . . .
They have a real hard time admitting that Poopster Paul never had the support needed from day one.  They do this all the time as they live in their own strange reality where conspiracies and nonsense control everything.

Oh and Fuck Iran.  They are worthless anyways and I have no sympathy for such animals.