Glen Beck guest makes interesting point on the Secret Service scandal

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A guest was explaining after the investigation, we will probably find out it was just lower level employees that were shagging the hookers.

Turns out, secret service agents are polygraphed continually as part of their job.

They are asked about infidelity and are bounced automatically, as it creates the potential for blackmail (as Hugo mentioned).
They are asked about drinking and drug use, which makes them unfit for duty.

If they are ding these things, they are removed from duty.  There's no discusison.  The guest made it clear that while the people who did it may have been "part of" the team, she believes no secret service agents would have been involved continually, as the poly would have picked up on their habits.

Food for thought.  Initially I figured SS agents were shagging hookers for years down there.  This guest says that's impossible, as the poly is very clear on hookers/cheating.

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Peter King said that there is at least one Supervisor involved in this.

Issa said there are more people involved than the initial 16.   

 

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Peter King said that there is at least one Supervisor involved in this.
Issa said there are more people involved than the initial 16.   

"Inolved" - I don't know what that means. 

Guilty of doing shots and sticking your cawk in a payphone vagina?   That is clear.   "Involved"?  Does that mean a supervisor didn't catch a subordinate?

IMO, we always jump to conclusions and sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong.  But we should admit "in order for this to have happened, these men must have somehow avoided polygraph detection".

This is one job - under any president - where it's hard to be shady because you are poly'd all the time about it to avoid things like this.  I would ask the accusers to explain how the accused (and we don't even know who is accused yet) to explain the poly issue.  They wanna make the accusations, let's see them explain that.

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"Inolved" - I don't know what that means. 

Guilty of doing shots and sticking your cawk in a payphone vagina?   That is clear.   "Involved"?  Does that mean a supervisor didn't catch a subordinate?

IMO, we always jump to conclusions and sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong.  But we should admit "in order for this to have happened, these men must have somehow avoided polygraph detection".

This is one job - under any president - where it's hard to be shady because you are poly'd all the time about it to avoid things like this.  I would ask the accusers to explain how the accused (and we don't even know who is accused yet) to explain the poly issue.  They wanna make the accusations, let's see them explain that.

The hooker exposed it when she went to the police for failure to be paid.

I'm sure the madam of the joint also spilled the beans to the local police of how many hookers went to the hotel. 

 

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The hooker exposed it when she went to the police for failure to be paid.

I'm sure the madam of the joint also spilled the beans to the local police of how many hookers went to the hotel. 

 

Obama's fault. Obama clearly should have paid the hooker, but he's a socialist.

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The hooker exposed it when she went to the police for failure to be paid.

I'm sure the madam of the joint also spilled the beans to the local police of how many hookers went to the hotel. 

I just want ot make sure we are trusting the word of a foreign hooker... over the protocols of the US govt.

It makes me wonder if hookers/local vermin might feast upon the secret service, well aware of the fact ANY kind of ACCUSATION would result in embarassment for the president.  I could regularly see them saying "hey mister, give me 20 bucks or I'm calling the police and ...."

it's just somethign to consider.  Maybe these agents were SS, and they were willing to fail the next poly by having sex with a hooker, even though they had worked their entire lives for this job and were well aware they would FAIL the next poly and be forced to leave their job. 


It's a little weird to say "another obama failure" when we have a fukkin foreign whore making wild claims.   If true, these men were knowingly throwing away wtheir careers, since they already know they'd be poly'd. 

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Well, if it was 1 hooker I think they would probably not trust what she said.
But 11 or more.. Pretty sure people would notice if there were 11+ hookers with a bunch of drunk agents.

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I just want ot make sure we are trusting the word of a foreign hooker... over the protocols of the US govt.

It makes me wonder if hookers/local vermin might feast upon the secret service, well aware of the fact ANY kind of ACCUSATION would result in embarassment for the president.  I could regularly see them saying "hey mister, give me 20 bucks or I'm calling the police and ...."

it's just somethign to consider.  Maybe these agents were SS, and they were willing to fail the next poly by having sex with a hooker, even though they had worked their entire lives for this job and were well aware they would FAIL the next poly and be forced to leave their job. 


It's a little weird to say "another obama failure" when we have a fukkin foreign whore making wild claims.   If true, these men were knowingly throwing away wtheir careers, since they already know they'd be poly'd. 

Again - total breakdown in normal procedures - JUST LIKE BATF, DOJ, DOE, EPA, etc.


Don't you see that this entire admn has been completely corrupted on al levels?  


Its not a CT - this entire Admn from top to bottom is a nightmare of corruption, fraud, partying, crime, etc.  


    

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Well, if it was 1 hooker I think they would probably not trust what she said.
But 11 or more.. Pretty sure people would notice if there were 11+ hookers with a bunch of drunk agents.

'agents'  -   the beck guest said it was probably true that lower level agents - essentially law enforcement - was using hookers.  that isn't a huge deal, unfortunately.  They have no power of influence.  They're not secret service.

This whole "secret service banging whores all day" means these lifelong career agents, at the peak of their career and well aware of the poly they face nonstop, would throw it all away.

The beck guest said it was likely the media jumping to the conclusion and painting all agents with that same brush.  That they were ignorant of the difference between the two.  It would be HUGELY IRREGULAR for a SS agent to knowingly end his own career like that.

IMO, it's probably a hooker extorting them (which the guest said happens all the time - corrupt police force and false claims against foreigners for hush money).

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I have no doubt that theyre demonizing the wrong people.
No way the black suited Secret Service agents that Guard the president did this. This sounds more like lower level guys attached to the detail for security purposes.

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Again - total breakdown in normal procedures - JUST LIKE BATF, DOJ, DOE, EPA, etc.
Don't you see that this entire admn has been completely corrupted on al levels?  
Its not a CT - this entire Admn from top to bottom is a nightmare of corruption, fraud partying, crime, etc.
  

I've been under the belief that SS were the same, irrelevant of president.  The same guys guarding Obama were keeping Bush and Clinton safe too.  Obama doesn't bring in his own kenyan party squad lol... it's the same team and system that keeps all presidents safe.


This whole lumping it in with obama's actual flaws is weak.  These men would have stuck their peepee in hooker knowing it was career ending.  Unlike most careers where you can just lie about it, they actually take poly's specifically for this.  

listen to the Beck replay.  They listed all the shit they're poly'd on.   The story is a little unbelievable because it wouldn't be obama okay'ing it.... it would have been these men saying "hey, let's all get fired in disgrace" as they KNEW WITH CERTAINTY this woudl happen.

More like a few special ops military guys partied it up with local hookers, who started screaming and wanting more money, and SS can't confirm or deny.


Read who is locked up for it - special forces guys - not secret service.  but hey, anything to shit on obama i gotcha!

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I have no doubt that theyre demonizing the wrong people.
No way the black suited Secret Service agents that Guard the president did this. This sounds more like lower level guys attached to the detail for security purposes.

that's what beck's guest said.  It was a great listen.   My opinion was completely changed on the matter.  She said it probably was lower level guys, but that they're the equiv of local law enforcement.  paid by the govt and will be fired for it, but certainly nothing to do with the secret service.   It's hard to control what local low level cops get into.  Certainly is no reflection on the POTUS or even the SS.   The SS is outright pros and IMO are taking a beating wrongly here.

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My CT is that Obama is trying to get rid of the SS detail and hire the Black Panthers as his security detail.  Billy Clubs, death warrants, cracka this and cracka that and all.  

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My CT is that Obama is trying to get rid of the SS detail and hire the Black Panthers as his security detail.  Billy Clubs, death warrants, cracka this and cracka that and all. 

yeah, that's totally rational. 

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http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/16/11228347-members-of-elite-secret-service-unit-among-those-suspended-in-colombia?lite


Members of elite Secret Service unit among those suspended in Colombia

By Michael Isikoff

NBC News



Two Secret Service supervisors and three members of the agency's elite Counter-Assault Teams were among the 11 agents sent back from Colombia and placed on administrative leave over allegations that they brought prostitutes to their hotel rooms in Cartagena, law enforcement officials tell NBC News.

The involvement of Counter-Assault Team (CAT) members-- who are not members of the Uniformed Division, but full-fledged Secret Service agents -- ratchets up the seriousness of the incident, officials said.  The heavily armed agents play a key role in protecting the president, serving as part of any presidential motorcade, usually a few cars back from the president's. Their responsibility is to "neutralize" any attack "as quickly as possible," according to the Secret Service website.


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"Their job is to fend off a heavy assault on the motorcade to give POTUS a chance to flee to a safe locale," one law enforcement source familiar with the investigation told NBC News, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The source said the two of the CAT team members were directly involved in the dispute with one of the prostitutes at the Hotel Caribe that led to the scandal. After bringing back the prostitute to their hotel room, the agents reportedly got into a dispute with one of the women when she complained she hadn’t been paid. The women then went to the Colombian police -- who reported the matter to the U.S. Embassy.

Others involved in the incident include three members of the Secret Service Counter-Sniper Team, which is part of the Uniformed Division.

The source also said the incident raised the possibility of a potential security breach, telling NBC News that all Secret Service personnel had been given copies of the president's schedule, which they are told to lock up in a safe in their hotel rooms.

Michael Isikoff is an NBC News national investigative correspondent.












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what are you asking me for?   They're suspended as the investigation unfolds?  It would be irresponsible to keep them on POTUS security until it is resolved.

Let me guess, will you be posting "foreign hooker WINNING" gifs shortly?  lmao

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what are you asking me for?   They're suspended as the investigation unfolds?  It would be irresponsible to keep them on POTUS security until it is resolved.

Let me guess, will you be posting "foreign hooker WINNING" gifs shortly?  lmao

LOL