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Statement from the American College of Surgeons Regarding Recent Comments from President Obama

CHICAGO—The American College of Surgeons is deeply disturbed over the uninformed public comments President Obama continues to make about the high-quality care provided by surgeons in the United States. When the President makes statements that are incorrect or not based in fact, we think he does a disservice to the American people at a time when they want clear, understandable facts about health care reform. We want to set the record straight.

Yesterday during a town hall meeting, President Obama got his facts completely wrong. He stated that a surgeon gets paid $50,000 for a leg amputation when, in fact, Medicare pays a surgeon between $740 and $1,140 for a leg amputation. This payment also includes the evaluation of the patient on the day of the operation plus patient follow-up care that is provided for 90 days after the operation. Private insurers pay some variation of the Medicare reimbursement for this service.

Three weeks ago, the President suggested that a surgeon’s decision to remove a child’s tonsils is based on the desire to make a lot of money. That remark was ill-informed and dangerous, and we were dismayed by this characterization of the work surgeons do. Surgeons make decisions about recommending operations based on what’s right for the patient.

We agree with the President that the best thing for patients with diabetes is to manage the disease proactively to avoid the bad consequences that can occur, including blindness, stroke, and amputation. But as is the case for a person who has been treated for cancer and still needs to have a tumor removed, or a person who is in a terrible car crash and needs access to a trauma surgeon, there are times when even a perfectly managed diabetic patient needs a surgeon. The President’s remarks are truly alarming and run the risk of damaging the all-important trust between surgeons and their patients.

We assume that the President made these mistakes unintentionally, but we would urge him to have his facts correct before making another inflammatory and incorrect statement about surgeons and surgical care.

About the American College of Surgeons

The American College of Surgeons is a scientific and educational organization of surgeons that was founded in 1913 to raise the standards of surgical practice and to improve the care of the surgical patient. The College is dedicated to the ethical and competent practice of surgery. Its achievements have significantly influenced the course of scientific surgery in America and have established it as an important advocate for all surgical patients. The College has more than 74,000 members and is the largest organization of surgeons in the world.

Web site: www.facs.org

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I think before 4 years it up, there will be no one left for him to piss off. 

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The liberals on this board cant deal with articles like this so they ignore them.  Their genius president is perfect in their eyes so they refuse to read articles like this.

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I'll pay $400,000 for a surgeon to amputate both of 240's hands so he can't type anymore.

I'm pretty sure medicare will cover the majority of the expense.

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Statement from the American College of Surgeons Regarding Recent Comments from President Obama

CHICAGO—The American College of Surgeons is deeply disturbed over the uninformed public comments President Obama continues to make about the high-quality care provided by surgeons in the United States. When the President makes statements that are incorrect or not based in fact, we think he does a disservice to the American people at a time when they want clear, understandable facts about health care reform. We want to set the record straight.

Yesterday during a town hall meeting, President Obama got his facts completely wrong. He stated that a surgeon gets paid $50,000 for a leg amputation when, in fact, Medicare pays a surgeon between $740 and $1,140 for a leg amputation. This payment also includes the evaluation of the patient on the day of the operation plus patient follow-up care that is provided for 90 days after the operation. Private insurers pay some variation of the Medicare reimbursement for this service.

Three weeks ago, the President suggested that a surgeon’s decision to remove a child’s tonsils is based on the desire to make a lot of money. That remark was ill-informed and dangerous, and we were dismayed by this characterization of the work surgeons do. Surgeons make decisions about recommending operations based on what’s right for the patient.

We agree with the President that the best thing for patients with diabetes is to manage the disease proactively to avoid the bad consequences that can occur, including blindness, stroke, and amputation. But as is the case for a person who has been treated for cancer and still needs to have a tumor removed, or a person who is in a terrible car crash and needs access to a trauma surgeon, there are times when even a perfectly managed diabetic patient needs a surgeon. The President’s remarks are truly alarming and run the risk of damaging the all-important trust between surgeons and their patients.

We assume that the President made these mistakes unintentionally, but we would urge him to have his facts correct before making another inflammatory and incorrect statement about surgeons and surgical care.

About the American College of Surgeons

The American College of Surgeons is a scientific and educational organization of surgeons that was founded in 1913 to raise the standards of surgical practice and to improve the care of the surgical patient. The College is dedicated to the ethical and competent practice of surgery. Its achievements have significantly influenced the course of scientific surgery in America and have established it as an important advocate for all surgical patients. The College has more than 74,000 members and is the largest organization of surgeons in the world.

Web site: www.facs.org

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I think before 4 years it up, there will be no one left for him to piss off. 



He said that a patient is billed 50k for a leg amputation, he didn't say that the surgeon gets 50k.  And he never said anything of the sort about tonsils.... ::)
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I'll pay $400,000 for a surgeon to amputate both of 240's hands so he can't type anymore.

I'm pretty sure medicare will cover the majority of the expense.
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He said that a patient is billed 50k for a leg amputation, he didn't say that the surgeon gets 50k.  And he never said anything of the sort about tonsils.... ::)

So the patient gets billed $50,000 by medicare and the doctor gets 1k?

Where does the other $49,000 go genius? And who sets that price? Medicare?

 If that were actually true, wouldn't Osama be indirectly blaming the government for cost overruns?

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He's talking about insurance company fee schedules...he's not stating that doctors are going around removing people's tonsils for profit you dum ass ::)
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So the patient gets billed $50,000 by medicare and the doctor gets 1k?

Where does the other $49,000 go genius? And who sets that price? Medicare?

 If that were actually true, wouldn't Osama be indirectly blaming the government for cost overruns?


Hospital bills can be very outrageous.  For example, they charge 2,000 dollars for the teddy bear they give to kids, 500 dollars for a box of tissues....etc.  I'm finishing a degree in Health Care Management this year so I know.  

Mark-ups occurs because the hospital has to make up the money for people who don't pay as a hospital can never refuse service to a person.  Its a serious issue
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Hospital bills can be very outrageous.  For example, they charge 2,000 dollars for the teddy bear they give to kids, 500 dollars for a box of tissues....etc.  I'm finishing a degree in Health Care Management this year so I know.  

Mark-ups occurs because the hospital has to make up the money for people who don't pay as a hospital can never refuse service to a person.  Its a serious issue
A REAL degree from an accredited University, or an online "print and sign your name here" degree ala 240?