Have you ever tried a TRUE Keto diet?

[bigbobs]

at 20 percent protein, say if you're dieting on 1800 calories that's only 90 grams protein per day. I've been curious but feel like this would reduce muscle mass (can't say for sure because I've never tried it though). Has anyone here tried keto with less than 100 grams of protein per day for several weeks in a row and maintained strength in the gym and muscle size?

[WannaBePro]

at 20 percent protein, say if you're dieting on 1800 calories that's only 90 grams protein per day. I've been curious but feel like this would reduce muscle mass (can't say for sure because I've never tried it though). Has anyone here tried keto with less than 100 grams of protein per day for several weeks in a row and maintained strength in the gym and muscle size?

Yep. Didn't reduce anything for me. Fats are muscle sparing. Eat enough fats and your muscle will be fine. I ate between 80g - 100g protein about 2 months out from my comp and had no issues.
If you also look at clinical research, it says the same. Keep carbs super low, fats high, and protein moderate, and you'll be fine. You don't need 300g protein to build/keep muscle. You just need enough aminos including leucine to complete muscle protein synthesis, which is a minimum of 50g/day. Of course, you'll want more than 50g, especially in the off-season. But precontest you'll be fine with 100g/day if you're eating enough fats (which should make up the rest of your nutrition with some leafy greens thrown in).

[bigbobs]

Yep. Didn't reduce anything for me. Fats are muscle sparing. Eat enough fats and your muscle will be fine. I ate between 80g - 100g protein about 2 months out from my comp and had no issues.
If you also look at clinical research, it says the same. Keep carbs super low, fats high, and protein moderate, and you'll be fine. You don't need 300g protein to build/keep muscle. You just need enough aminos including leucine to complete muscle protein synthesis, which is a minimum of 50g/day. Of course, you'll want more than 50g, especially in the off-season. But precontest you'll be fine with 100g/day if you're eating enough fats (which should make up the rest of your nutrition with some leafy greens thrown in).

thanks for the info, maybe I'll try it out. 

FWIW there was one study where sedentary 170 lb guys actually lost some muscle eating 47 g protein per day even though they had a calorie surplus with fats and Carbs, they also gained muscle at 140 g protein when under the same calorie excess but with a bit less fat and Carbs.  So that muscle maintaining protein about for them would be somewhere between 47 and 140.

[8 INCH not biceps]

at 20 percent protein, say if you're dieting on 1800 calories that's only 90 grams protein per day. I've been curious but feel like this would reduce muscle mass (can't say for sure because I've never tried it though). Has anyone here tried keto with less than 100 grams of protein per day for several weeks in a row and maintained strength in the gym and muscle size?

Read your question and use your common sense do you really think a person can be on 1800 calories 90 grams of protein per day for several weeks in a row and not lose some strength and muscle size come on man your body is human.

[WannaBePro]

thanks for the info, maybe I'll try it out. 

FWIW there was one study where sedentary 170 lb guys actually lost some muscle eating 47 g protein per day even though they had a calorie surplus with fats and Carbs, they also gained muscle at 140 g protein when under the same calorie excess but with a bit less fat and Carbs.  So that muscle maintaining protein about for them would be somewhere between 47 and 140.

Offseason I will eat upwards of 250g of protein and fats will be adjusted to keep calories around 3000/day. So I do see the merit of eating plenty of protein to put on muscle. Its just not as important as people make it out to be when dieting down. When calories have to go low enough, I would rather consume more fat to keep satiety high, and enough protein to keep catabolism at bay.

[Zillotch]

All i've consumed today is eggnog and beer..... fun holiday diet

[Tapeworm]

Did it work for you?

No.

I had no gas in the tank at all.  Training went to shit.  Mood was even more foul than usual.  I almost butchered a family of 8 with an axe right there on their picnic blanket just for their bowl of pasta.  Anyone who can juice up and keto and not end up in jail is a nicer person than I.

[local hero]

All i've consumed today is eggnog and beer..... fun holiday diet

Calorie is a calorie