PHIL HEATH .... lets remind everyone why hes the champ

[NarcissisticDeity]

now you're just contradicting yourself to save face. Phil beats Flex on size, conditioning, and balance. So what makes you think a prime Flex would beat Dorian but Phil doesn't even come close? Your logic doesn't add up

I'm not contradicting anything , I can tell you exactly why Phil would never beat Dorian that's easy and Phil is NOT Flex the only area he beats Flex in conditioning is hams and glutes

[Parker]

I just cannot see even a prime Flex beat Phil. Heath's BDB is above Flex's, way more complete, same with the FDB. Flex's MM crab exposes the same weakness: narrow clavicles and Phil has the conditioning advantage. Shawn is not close on anything.

Both Phil and Flex are narrow thru the clavicles. It was Flex's round muscle bellies that take it. Plus, if you ever have seen Flex hit a FDB, he does it in a way that adds drama to the pose, accentuating his smaller waist. Phil has large obliques, which take away from his taper. Also, Flex smiles, Phil makes weird faces, all these things add up.

Don't get me wrong, I am a Phil Heath fan, and if Flex and Phil were competing today---using Flex as yesterday and his mentality, Phil would probably beat him, due to Phil being more consistent wig his conditioning.
But Flex of 92,93, 97, 98 would be very hard to beat by Phil of today.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Are you trying to say Dillet = Phil?  
And better yet, I could use that same argument and say Phil would look just as big as a heavier Dorian.

You could say it but do you have an IFBB judge saying it? 

[tbombz]

THE CHAMP

[NarcissisticDeity]

THE CHAMP

Best competing today

[Metabolic]

Just for the record, Coleman outmuscled Yates.

I love how ND gets into this arguments competing against any possible bodybuilder...

[tbombz]

Best competing today

[SF1900]

Best competing today

Exactly, "today." Lets make no mistake that he is by far the best mr olympia or competitor to ever grace a bodybuilding stage.

[NeoSeminole]

lol @ ND thinking Phil is nowhere near Dorian's level

[NarcissisticDeity]

Just for the record, Coleman outmuscled Yates.

I love how ND gets into this arguments competing against any possible bodybuilder...

And for the record Ronnie at his best does NOT outmuscle Yates

Did I mention Dorian vs Phil? please show me where I did  

[NeoSeminole]

[SF1900]

All this talk actually means nothing. We will see what Phil brings tonight. How consistent he is.

[NeoSeminole]

All this talk actually means nothing. We will see what Phil brings tonight. How consistent he is.

Phil seems like the most straightforward guy out of all the current competitors. He is pretty consistent with his conditioning and I believe him when he says he's at his all-time best for this Mr. Olympia. I don't think he's the type to hype himself up with inflated claims before a contest

[NarcissisticDeity]

All this talk actually means nothing. We will see what Phil brings tonight. How consistent he is.

I think he's on the money just based off the few pics he posed he looks lean and in shape

[SF1900]

Phil seems like the most straightforward guy out of all the current competitors. He is pretty consistent with his conditioning and I believe him when he says he's at his all-time best for this Mr. Olympia. I don't think he's the type to hype himself up with inflated claims before a contest

Agreed. But what really matters is when he steps on stage. Until then, its all talk, ya know what I mean? Only a few hours left!

[SF1900]

I think he's on the money just based off the few pics he posed he looks lean and in shape

I am not saying he is not in shape, but until he peels, its still talk.

[NeoSeminole]

some pics from last year. Can't wait to see what improvements he's made

[SF1900]

some pics from last year. Can't wait to see what improvements he's made

Same here. Got my towel ready as well :/