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Re: Obama Afghan Surge gets a failing grade from Military.
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 08:48:46 AM »
The Afghan Surge Was A Dismal Failure And These NATO Charts Prove It


Michael Kelley|31 minutes ago|119|1

 




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Lt. Col. Daniel Davis, the Army whistleblower who detailed how big of a mess the Afghan war is and how U.S. military leaders are lying about it, explained how the Afghan surge from late 2010 to last week was "flawed before one boot hit Afghan dirt" because the success of the 2007 Iraq surge was luck.
 
The Afghan surge was based on false premises—namely that the Iraq surge was a unqualified success—and its U.S. troops on the ground who paid for that mistake with their lives, limbs and mental health.
 
New charts, released by International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and first published by Wired, acknowledge this fact with hard data.
 
The strategy of the Afghan surge was to CLEAR out the Taliban, HOLD all ground seized, BUILD infrastructure and governance, and TRANSFER control to Afghan forces while "winning the hearts and minds" of the Afghan population.

 
The failure of the counter-insurgency is clear when one compares "Enemy-Initiated Attacks" and "Executed IED Attacks" from the beginning of the surge in mid-2009 to the drawdown in mid-2012.
 
It hasn't gotten better, and bold attacks like the one on Camp Bastion and the killing of Americans by the Afghans they're training indicate that things have gotten worse.
 
As Lt. Col. Davis noted, U.S. casualties increased with each successive increase of troops since violence began to rise in 2005—reaching a peak in the middle of the surge (October 2011)—and only began to drop once 10,000 troops were withdrawn by the end of December 2011

Essentially the U.S. has been deploying troops into a meat grinder.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nato-charts-show-how-afghan-surge-failed-2012-9#ixzz27mPaJdVS

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Re: Obama Afghan Surge gets a failing grade from Military.
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2012, 03:12:41 AM »
 
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The war in Afghanistan effectively ended last week. We lost.

The last of the surge troops President Barack Obama sent there were quietly withdrawn. They did not leave in triumph:


• Taliban guerrillas dressed in U.S. Army uniforms attacked Camp Bastion in southern Afghanistan on Sept. 14, destroying eight Marine Harrier jump jets. It was our greatest loss of aircraft since the Vietnam war. For VMA-211, it was the greatest loss since the siege of Wake Island in World War II. The Harrier has been out of production for a decade, so the losses can't be replaced.

More Harriers likely would have been lost had not the squadron commander, Lt. Col. Christopher Raible, armed with only a pistol, battled the heavily armed guerrillas. He and another Marine were killed during the raid, which was so sophisticated some defense analysts think it was plotted by Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence Agency.

"The Taliban's major vulnerability is our mastery of the air, but if they can negate it, we are approaching tactical equality because they have home turf advantage," said former Special Forces soldier Michael Yon, who's spent more time in Afghanistan than any other war correspondent.

• The attack on Camp Bastion happened on a Friday. Two British and four American soldiers were killed by Afghan policemen the following Saturday and Sunday. After these attacks, NATO suspended most joint operations with Afghan security forces.

"We're to the point now where we can't trust these people," a senior military official told NBC's Pentagon correspondent. So far this year, 59 NATO troops have been killed in "green on blue" attacks.

As of Monday, 1,493 Americans have been killed in Afghanistan, 70 percent of them since Barack Obama became president. About 15 percent of NATO troops killed this year have been killed by our purported Afghan allies. "Green on blue" attacks were virtually unheard of four years ago.

"The training mission is the foundation of the current strategy," said Joshua Foust, a journalist who reports on Central Asia. "Without that mission, the strategy collapses. The war is adrift, and it's hard to see how anyone can avoid a complete disaster at this point."

Spencer Ackerman, who writes about national security for Wired magazine, said failure in Afghanistan has "implications for the other wars the U.S. is fighting."

"Imagine yourself as a Yemeni insurgent," he said. The lesson you might draw from Afghanistan is that instead of fighting the government and its American advisers, "a smarter strategy is to join them -- to go through training, in preparation for the moment when, perhaps, you can get close enough to the Americans to open fire or detonate a bomb."

Defeat comes as no surprise to me. Thanks to Afghanistan's primitiveness; Pakistan's enmity (the Taliban is largely a creation of the ISI), and the corruption, incompetence and duplicity of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, our "nation-building" effort there was doomed, I've written for years.

Or to Army Lt. Col. Daniel Davis, who traveled more than 9,000 miles in Afghanistan in 2011. "In all of the places I visited, the tactical situation was bad to abysmal," he said.

But defeat may come as a shock to those who believed President Obama when he said Sept. 1: "We've broken the Taliban's momentum in Afghanistan, and begun the transition to an Afghan lead."

Despite its import, the bleak war news attracted little attention from the news media. In the wake of the 9/11/2012 attacks in Libya and Egypt, this is perhaps understandable. But there has been little coverage of the Afghan war all year.

If George W. Bush were president, "there would be continuous coverage of the disarray in Afghanistan: the soldiers we're training are shooting us, the corruption is intensifying, and the opium trade spreading," said professor Walter Russell Mead, who teaches foreign policy at Bard College.

"These stories wouldn't be on the back pages," he said. "They'd be perceived as major news with profound implications for America's global position and the Sunday shows and nightly TV news round ups would be full of talking heads endlessly analyzing each wrinkle of the failure."

Defeat in Afghanistan is a big deal -- especially since we still have 68,000 troops in harm's way. It should have been reported -- even though it is embarrassing to President Obama.

Jack Kelly is a columnist for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and The Blade of Toledo, Ohio.

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Re: Obama Afghan Surge gets a failing grade from Military.
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2012, 03:17:55 AM »
awesome, clicked on another thread that is all 3333 posts with no replies...

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Re: Obama Afghan Surge gets a failing grade from Military.
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2012, 03:23:03 AM »
awesome, clicked on another thread that is all 3333 posts with no replies...

I am updating it as news trickles out.   

This sucks!   

Post about Obama phones and you gets dozens of responses.    That's how it is.

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Re: Obama Afghan Surge gets a failing grade from Military.
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2012, 03:24:29 AM »
Ill chip in then :)

Whats the point of this thread?

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Re: Obama Afghan Surge gets a failing grade from Military.
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2012, 03:28:27 AM »
I am updating it as news trickles out.   

This sucks!   

Post about Obama phones and you gets dozens of responses.    That's how it is.
I guess you've done worse, often....  I can't count how many times you've decided to post almost identical articles over and over and over.  I just love it when you post 8 articles within a short time that all pretty much say the same thing ::)  How we don't have a rule against that I don't know...  But if we get one, I'm sure it will be called the 3333 rule lol....

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Re: Obama Afghan Surge gets a failing grade from Military.
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2012, 03:31:10 AM »
I guess you've done worse, often....  I can't count how many times you've decided to post almost identical articles over and over and over.  I just love it when you post 8 articles within a short time that all pretty much say the same thing ::)  How we don't have a rule against that I don't know...  But if we get one, I'm sure it will be called the 3333 rule lol....

He's got time to post articles upon articles upon etc but when its debate time its just commie this commie that leech jobless bla. bla.
Only post whoring but no substance and if you disagree you are a kneepadder.

I would respect him a lot more if he could actually debate the issues but he just resorts to name calling. The neocon way i suppose. If you dont know WTF you are talking about just smear the opponent.

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Re: Obama Afghan Surge gets a failing grade from Military.
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2012, 05:30:37 PM »
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