Kermit Gosnell's Abortion Clinic Was Chaotic Says Former Staffer Stephen Massof

[bears]

I don't understand your choice of "lesson"

you're saying I should not judge where others choose to draw the line (again - the line doesn't really even matter if you're personally opposed to abortion) ?

Does the same go for you?

What if a woman chooses to have an abortion because she doesn't want/can't afford a child

I assume you would have no judgement on that.  Not consider it to be an irresponsible choice, etc..  Afterall, what business is it of yours or mine what she choose to do ...right ?

hopefully we can agree on that

i have my opinion on what is the responsible vs irresponsible thing to do yes.  but i don't judge anyone or think that they're a bad person if they make the decision to abort.  just as you should not judge anyone or think that they're a bad person if they're outspoken in their opinion that abortion is wrong.  so yes we do agree on that. 

[Straw Man]

i have my opinion on what is the responsible vs irresponsible thing to do yes.  but i don't judge anyone or think that they're a bad person if they make the decision to abort.  just as you should not judge anyone or think that they're a bad person if they're outspoken in their opinion that abortion is wrong.  so yes we do agree on that. 

I have no problem that you or anyone think abortion is wrong

luckily we live in a country where anyone who might get pregnant can make that choice for themselves

don't you agree?

[bears]

I have no problem that you or anyone think abortion is wrong

luckily we live in a country where anyone who might get pregnant can make that choice for themselves

don't you agree?

well women can make that choice.  if you're a man who gets girl pregnant you don't have a choice.  for men life begins at conception.  for women it doesn't.  do you agree?

[Straw Man]

well women can make that choice.  if you're a man who gets girl pregnant you don't have a choice.  for men life begins at conception.  for women it doesn't.  do you agree?

fine by me

I'm a responsible adult

women have the additional burden of having to be pregnant and give birth and it's their body so it's their choice

I have no problem with that

[drkaje]

@ Straw,

Why are vaginas the only place fundies want more Govt?

[Straw Man]

@ Straw,

Why are vaginas the only place fundies want more Govt?

I don't know

why?

[Soul Crusher]

I don't know

why?

Your vagina needs to be regulated 

[Straw Man]

Your vagina needs to be regulated 

since when are you interested in vaginas?

[Soul Crusher]

since when are you interested in vaginas?

Since about 11-12 years old i guess - remember having the hots for Samantha Fox   

[Straw Man]

Since about 11-12 years old i guess - remember having the hots for Samantha Fox   

says the guy who can't stop talking about twinks and spends his free time searching the internet for pics of TBombz and then starting threads about it

[blacken700]

[syntaxmachine]

[drkaje]

I don't know

why?

FWIW, it is a way to keep poor people poor so there's less competition.

[George Whorewell]

FWIW, it is a way to keep poor people poor so there's less competition.

 

You can't be this retarded can you?

In the first place, countries with lower birth rates are on the path for disaster as the demographic shifts from working age people into the elderly.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure that poor people still exist with or without wholesale abortion.

Today, poverty in the United States has reached historic levels despite millions upon millions of aborted babies.

By your moronic philosophical observation, shouldn't poverty have been wiped out by now?

[drkaje]

You can't be this retarded can you?

In the first place, countries with lower birth rates are on the path for disaster as the demographic shifts from working age people into the elderly.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure that poor people still exist with or without wholesale abortion.

Today, poverty in the United States has reached historic levels despite millions upon millions of aborted babies.

By your moronic philosophical observation, shouldn't poverty have been wiped out by now?

People who actually cared about the unborn would be working their asses off to create a better world for them to live in.

There has to be another reason why extremists on both sides of this issue exist.

According to the CDC: In 2009, 784,507 legal induced abortions were performed. Where are you getting millions upon millions from? Is this another one of those whacky numbers people throw out that no one bothers to question?

[George Whorewell]

People who actually cared about the unborn would be working their asses off to create a better world for them to live in.

There has to be another reason why extremists on both sides of this issue exist.

According to the CDC: In 2009, 784,507 legal induced abortions were performed. Where are you getting millions upon millions from? Is this another one of those whacky numbers people throw out that no one bothers to question?

784,507 in 2009 you say. So that's more than three quarters of a million in a single year. Were no legal abortions performed before 2009? How about after 2009? Being that legalized abortion has been the law of the land for several decades at this point, I think its safe to say the number is clearly into the 10's of millions.  Before you post meaningless figures, use your brain a little bit. Since 1973, the CDC places the figure at 50 million.

As to your point in bold-- that would once again be the job of the parent, not all people who care about the unborn.  

What kind of delusional commentary is that? How about assigning some responsibility to the crack addict aborting the baby in the first place?