The reality on getbig is, many require drugs to do anything in a gym. When they see someone looking better and claims natural or drug free....they are the ones who are melting, not the other way around.
The sad fact about most "hardcore" bbers is, they usually can't achieve jack without drugs.
And on bloating, creating will cause bloating...quite a bit actually. I myself assume someone who is bloated is probably on, but this just isn't the case.
Gyno also occurs in men who don't even lift. If someone has a natural high test production, they'd be more susceptible to gyno...even without drug use.
Not the smartest group on getbig.
Toughen up, most times in life people are just better than you at some things...or most things. Accept it and up your dose like most fools at the gym.
