Author Topic: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033  (Read 603 times)

dario73

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6467
  • Getbig!
11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« on: June 19, 2013, 11:58:56 AM »
The Senate’s pending immigration bill will pave the way for the arrival of 46 million legal immigrants over the next 20 years, increase the federal debt in the same time period and shrink Americans’ average wage, according Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Session’s critical reading of two new reports on the pending immigration reform bill provided by the Congressional Budget Office.

But Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, the most prominent GOP advocate for the immigration reform bill, says the CBO reports are good news for Americans.

“The CBO has further confirmed what most conservative economists have found: reforming our immigration system is a net benefit for our economy, American workers and taxpayers,” Rubio said in a statement on Tuesday. “The report offers encouraging evidence that the  [bill could] reduce the deficit over the next 20 years.”


Today’s CBO report underscores the velocity we add to our economy by fixing our immigration system,” Bennett said in a statement, which highlighted the report’s claim that bill would trim the federal government’s multi-trillion deficit by $197 billion over a decade and expand the economy by 3.3 percent by the tenth year after passage.

Bennett and Rubio are both members of the Gang of Eight who drafted the 1,077-page bill.

Session’s office pushed back against the supporters’ brief statements and extensively dissected the CBO report to highlight bad news for the bill’s supporters.

“This bill guarantees three things: amnesty, increased welfare costs and lower wages for the U.S. workforce,” said Sessions, who leads the opposition to the Senate bill. “It would be the biggest setback for poor and middle-class Americans of any legislation Congress has considered in decades.”

Sessions’ statement explained that the claim of $197 billion in deficit reductions is flawed, because the extra money consists of Social Security taxes that should be set aside to pay for the retirement of the new immigrants who provided the taxes.

The CBO estimated that the new immigrants would earn $261.8 billion in benefits over 10 years, and pay $458.9 billion in various taxes during the same period, creating a 10-year gain of $197 billion.

That gain consists of $214 billion in Social Security taxes, which will be paid to the new immigrants’ Social Security payments once they retire.

Without the improper inclusion of the Social Security taxes, the immigration bill would actually cost taxpayers $14 billion in the first 10 years, according to Session’s press secretary, Andrew Logan.

The CBO report also claims to save $700 billion in deficit reduction during the second decade, but provides few details, Logan said. The CBO’s short-term section ignores the immigrants’ huge retirement costs, which will significantly affect the federal budget in later decades, said Logan. “As the [immigrants] age … the budget gimmick would fall apart,” he said.

In May, the Heritage Foundation conducted a similar cost estimate and calculated that the five-decade cost of offering amnesty only 11 million low-skill immigrants would amount to $6.3 trillion.

Sessions’ press statements also highlighted elements of the economic impact report that could pose future political problems for Rubio, New York Democrat Sen. Chuck Schumer, President Barack Obama and other advocates for the bill.

For example, Sessions’ office highlighted a statement in the impact report that said average “wages would be lower than under current law through 2024.”

However, the average decline happens because most of the new immigrants are poorly educated, and will lower the average national wage — not necessarily the average wage paid to Americans: “A greater number of immigrants with lower skills than with higher skills would be added to the workforce, slightly pushing down the average wage for the labor force as a whole,” said the report.

But the impact report also says the immigration bill would lower wages for high-skilled college grads and for low-skill dropouts. ”The legislation would particularly increase the number of workers with lower or higher skills but would have less effect on the number of workers with average skills … [and] the wages of lower- and higher-skilled workers would tend to be pushed downward slightly (by less than one half of a percent) relative to the wages of workers with average skills,” said the report.

Sessions also highlighted the impact report’s conclusion that the bill “would raise the unemployment rate over the next five years by up to roughly 0.1 percentage point.” That’s because the bill would add a rush of 10 million new workers, plus at least eight million illegal immigrants, plus the current inflow of one million immigrants per year, to an stalled economy that is home to 20 million unemployed or underemployed Americans, according to Sessions.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/19/senate-bill-allows-46-million-immigrants-by-2033-says-cbo/

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/19/senate-bill-allows-46-million-immigrants-by-2033-says-cbo/#ixzz2Wglk9LvW

Psychopath

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3683
  • TEAM DIME PIECE TRANNY
Re: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2013, 12:16:55 PM »
Fuck.

I hope Canada doesn't open the borders, and merge countries.

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2013, 12:32:05 PM »
Marco Approvio.

Archer77

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 14174
  • Team Shizzo
Re: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2013, 12:51:27 PM »
The left need to think about stuff like this.  It might feel good to believe in the fantasies about amnesty and immigration but there are real consequences to all of this.  I know you all probably hate labor unions but a lot of them have been complaining about these very issues for years. 
A

Psychopath

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3683
  • TEAM DIME PIECE TRANNY
Re: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2013, 12:54:51 PM »
The left need to think about stuff like this.  It might feel good to believe in the fantasies about amnesty and immigration but there are real consequences to all of this.  I know you all probably hate labor unions but a lot of them have been complaining about these very issues for years. 


Immigrants from third world countries, whether legal or illegal, drive down the average wage, and with it goes down living standards as well.

Immigration has drastically changed Toronto to the worst, and it's only getting more competitive, and expensive.


Archer77

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 14174
  • Team Shizzo
Re: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2013, 12:57:13 PM »

Immigrants from third world countries, whether legal or illegal, drive down the average wage, and with it goes down living standards as well.

Immigration has drastically changed Toronto to the worst, and it's only getting more competitive, and expensive.



I absolutely agree.  People on the left are enraptured by the immigration narrative they've created.
A

chadstallion

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2854
Re: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2013, 02:14:43 PM »
good.
they can form their own political party.
'bout time we have more than two.
w

_bruce_

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 23546
  • Sam Sesambröt Sulek
Re: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2013, 04:27:54 PM »
Nice low wage/high tension paradise they're implementing.
Same here in Europe - living in a "western" world will soon be a thing of the past.
.

whork

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6587
  • Getbig!
Re: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2013, 08:48:55 AM »
The Senate’s pending immigration bill will pave the way for the arrival of 46 million legal immigrants over the next 20 years, increase the federal debt in the same time period and shrink Americans’ average wage, according Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Session’s critical reading of two new reports on the pending immigration reform bill provided by the Congressional Budget Office.

But Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, the most prominent GOP advocate for the immigration reform bill, says the CBO reports are good news for Americans.

“The CBO has further confirmed what most conservative economists have found: reforming our immigration system is a net benefit for our economy, American workers and taxpayers,” Rubio said in a statement on Tuesday. “The report offers encouraging evidence that the  [bill could] reduce the deficit over the next 20 years.”


Today’s CBO report underscores the velocity we add to our economy by fixing our immigration system,” Bennett said in a statement, which highlighted the report’s claim that bill would trim the federal government’s multi-trillion deficit by $197 billion over a decade and expand the economy by 3.3 percent by the tenth year after passage.

Bennett and Rubio are both members of the Gang of Eight who drafted the 1,077-page bill.

Session’s office pushed back against the supporters’ brief statements and extensively dissected the CBO report to highlight bad news for the bill’s supporters.

“This bill guarantees three things: amnesty, increased welfare costs and lower wages for the U.S. workforce,” said Sessions, who leads the opposition to the Senate bill. “It would be the biggest setback for poor and middle-class Americans of any legislation Congress has considered in decades.”

Sessions’ statement explained that the claim of $197 billion in deficit reductions is flawed, because the extra money consists of Social Security taxes that should be set aside to pay for the retirement of the new immigrants who provided the taxes.

The CBO estimated that the new immigrants would earn $261.8 billion in benefits over 10 years, and pay $458.9 billion in various taxes during the same period, creating a 10-year gain of $197 billion.

That gain consists of $214 billion in Social Security taxes, which will be paid to the new immigrants’ Social Security payments once they retire.

Without the improper inclusion of the Social Security taxes, the immigration bill would actually cost taxpayers $14 billion in the first 10 years, according to Session’s press secretary, Andrew Logan.

The CBO report also claims to save $700 billion in deficit reduction during the second decade, but provides few details, Logan said. The CBO’s short-term section ignores the immigrants’ huge retirement costs, which will significantly affect the federal budget in later decades, said Logan. “As the [immigrants] age … the budget gimmick would fall apart,” he said.

In May, the Heritage Foundation conducted a similar cost estimate and calculated that the five-decade cost of offering amnesty only 11 million low-skill immigrants would amount to $6.3 trillion.

Sessions’ press statements also highlighted elements of the economic impact report that could pose future political problems for Rubio, New York Democrat Sen. Chuck Schumer, President Barack Obama and other advocates for the bill.

For example, Sessions’ office highlighted a statement in the impact report that said average “wages would be lower than under current law through 2024.”

However, the average decline happens because most of the new immigrants are poorly educated, and will lower the average national wage — not necessarily the average wage paid to Americans: “A greater number of immigrants with lower skills than with higher skills would be added to the workforce, slightly pushing down the average wage for the labor force as a whole,” said the report.

But the impact report also says the immigration bill would lower wages for high-skilled college grads and for low-skill dropouts. ”The legislation would particularly increase the number of workers with lower or higher skills but would have less effect on the number of workers with average skills … [and] the wages of lower- and higher-skilled workers would tend to be pushed downward slightly (by less than one half of a percent) relative to the wages of workers with average skills,” said the report.

Sessions also highlighted the impact report’s conclusion that the bill “would raise the unemployment rate over the next five years by up to roughly 0.1 percentage point.” That’s because the bill would add a rush of 10 million new workers, plus at least eight million illegal immigrants, plus the current inflow of one million immigrants per year, to an stalled economy that is home to 20 million unemployed or underemployed Americans, according to Sessions.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/19/senate-bill-allows-46-million-immigrants-by-2033-says-cbo/

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/19/senate-bill-allows-46-million-immigrants-by-2033-says-cbo/#ixzz2Wglk9LvW


Europe says this is bad.

Although i dont think mexicans are as bad as muslims.

But still a bad idea.

Archer77

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 14174
  • Team Shizzo
Re: 11 million immigrants? More like 46 million by 2033
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2013, 08:51:24 AM »

Europe says this is bad.

Although i dont think mexicans are as bad as muslims.

But still a bad idea.

I agree, mexicans aren't as bad as muslims.   I am all for immigration and giving people a chance at a better life but not at the risk of diminishing prosperity for the country as a whole.  Not to mention the abuse of immigrant workers.
A