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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2013, 07:11:11 PM »
Enemy soldiers have taken over your village. They have orders to kill all remaining civilians. You and some of your townspeople have sought refuge in the cellar of a large house. Outside you hear the voices of soldiers who have come to search the house for valuables.

Your baby begins to cry loudly. You cover his mouth to block the sound. If you remove your hand from his mouth, his crying will summon the attention of the soldiers who will kill you, your child, and the others hiding out in the cellar. To save yourself and the others you must smother your child to death.

Would you smother your child in order to save yourself and the other townspeople?

Is my child likely to become a professional bodybuilder in the future?

You are the leader of a small group of soldiers. You are on your way back from a completed mission deep in enemy territory when one of your men has stepped in a trap set by the enemy and is badly injured. The trap is connected to a radio device that by now has alerted the enemy to your presence. They will soon be on their way.

If the enemy finds your injured man, they will torture him and kill him. He begs you not to leave him behind, but if you try to take him with you your entire group will be captured. The only way to prevent this injured soldier from being tortured is to shoot him yourself.

Would you shoot this soldier in order to prevent him from being tortured by the enemy?

One right between the eyes...

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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2013, 07:16:03 PM »

http://www.thejournal.ie/missing-vietnam-vet-found-john-robertson-885986-Apr2013/


This US soldier ‘found alive’ in Vietnam 44 years after being left behind

Filmmaker says John Robertson, now 76, can no longer speak English, remember his birthday or the names of his American children.

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A NEW DOCUMENTARY called Unclaimed claims to introduce the world to former Army Sergeant John Robertson, lost over Vietnam in 1968 and left behind for over four decades.
The Toronto Star reports Edmonton filmmaker Michael Jorgenson found Robertson, 76, living in a rural Vietnam village stooped with age, unable to speak English, remember his birthday, or names of the children he left behind in the U.S.
It’s a story difficult to understand considering the US military places such a priority on bringing every service member home, whenever possible.
Jorgenson told the Toronto Star that he was also skeptical when Vietnam vet Tom Faunce came to him and explained a man he’d found in Vietnam was a former “Army brother” listed as killed in action and forgotten. He says he became convinced only after going to Vietnam and meeting Robertson himself.
What he found was revealed to filmgoers in an invitation only screening of “Unclaimed” at a Toronto theatre earlier this month.
From The Toronto Star:
There is physical proof of Robertson’s birthplace, collected in dramatic fashion onscreen; a tearful meeting in Vietnam with a soldier who was trained by Robertson in 1960 and said he knew him on sight; and a heart-wrenching reunion with his only surviving sister — 80-year-old Jean Robertson-Holly — in Edmonton in December 2012 that left the audience at the Toronto screening wiping away tears.
Jorgenson encountered so much resistance from the US military making his film that he says he’s convinced one “high-placed government source” was telling the truth when he said, “It’s not that the Vietnamese won’t let him (Robertson) go; it’s that our government doesn’t want him.”
Wringing out the details and talking to Robertson’s American family seems to have been a gut-wrenching affair. The children whose names he couldn’t recall declined DNA testing at the last minute with no explanation.
None of that mattered to Roberston who says he fulfilled his wish of coming to America and seeing his kids one more time before he dies.
Robertson’s now back in Vietnam, with no desire to leave and Unclaimed opens in the USA on 12 May, at the G.I. Film Festival in Washington, DC.
- Robert Johnson

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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2013, 07:16:42 PM »
You think Daniel Inouye every left anyone behind???   8)



Dude was a beast. Part of the unit whose motto was "go for broke".

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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2013, 07:18:18 PM »
Dude was a beast. Part of the unit whose motto was "go for broke".

He lived in my building back in the DC area.   Met him and spoke to him a few times, True American hero!

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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2013, 07:25:58 PM »

http://www.thejournal.ie/missing-vietnam-vet-found-john-robertson-885986-Apr2013/


This US soldier ‘found alive’ in Vietnam 44 years after being left behind

Filmmaker says John Robertson, now 76, can no longer speak English, remember his birthday or the names of his American children.

28/04/13 472,301 Views  282 Comments  Share55764  Tweet1164  Email654



A NEW DOCUMENTARY called Unclaimed claims to introduce the world to former Army Sergeant John Robertson, lost over Vietnam in 1968 and left behind for over four decades.
The Toronto Star reports Edmonton filmmaker Michael Jorgenson found Robertson, 76, living in a rural Vietnam village stooped with age, unable to speak English, remember his birthday, or names of the children he left behind in the U.S.
It’s a story difficult to understand considering the US military places such a priority on bringing every service member home, whenever possible.
Jorgenson told the Toronto Star that he was also skeptical when Vietnam vet Tom Faunce came to him and explained a man he’d found in Vietnam was a former “Army brother” listed as killed in action and forgotten. He says he became convinced only after going to Vietnam and meeting Robertson himself.
What he found was revealed to filmgoers in an invitation only screening of “Unclaimed” at a Toronto theatre earlier this month.
From The Toronto Star:
There is physical proof of Robertson’s birthplace, collected in dramatic fashion onscreen; a tearful meeting in Vietnam with a soldier who was trained by Robertson in 1960 and said he knew him on sight; and a heart-wrenching reunion with his only surviving sister — 80-year-old Jean Robertson-Holly — in Edmonton in December 2012 that left the audience at the Toronto screening wiping away tears.
Jorgenson encountered so much resistance from the US military making his film that he says he’s convinced one “high-placed government source” was telling the truth when he said, “It’s not that the Vietnamese won’t let him (Robertson) go; it’s that our government doesn’t want him.”
Wringing out the details and talking to Robertson’s American family seems to have been a gut-wrenching affair. The children whose names he couldn’t recall declined DNA testing at the last minute with no explanation.
None of that mattered to Roberston who says he fulfilled his wish of coming to America and seeing his kids one more time before he dies.
Robertson’s now back in Vietnam, with no desire to leave and Unclaimed opens in the USA on 12 May, at the G.I. Film Festival in Washington, DC.
- Robert Johnson
I see nothing there that indicates he was wounded and that his unit abandoned him in order to save themselves. Shit happens, people back then were left in POW camps until the war was over, people were thought dead who simply went UA and never returned, others got separated and lost.

Thats a lot different than a conscious decision by a military unit to leave their wounded teammates behind. Maybe thats were this breakdown in communication is coming from.

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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2013, 07:26:26 PM »

http://www.thejournal.ie/missing-vietnam-vet-found-john-robertson-885986-Apr2013/


This US soldier ‘found alive’ in Vietnam 44 years after being left behind

Filmmaker says John Robertson, now 76, can no longer speak English, remember his birthday or the names of his American children.

28/04/13 472,301 Views  282 Comments  Share55764  Tweet1164  Email654



A NEW DOCUMENTARY called Unclaimed claims to introduce the world to former Army Sergeant John Robertson, lost over Vietnam in 1968 and left behind for over four decades.
The Toronto Star reports Edmonton filmmaker Michael Jorgenson found Robertson, 76, living in a rural Vietnam village stooped with age, unable to speak English, remember his birthday, or names of the children he left behind in the U.S.
It’s a story difficult to understand considering the US military places such a priority on bringing every service member home, whenever possible.
Jorgenson told the Toronto Star that he was also skeptical when Vietnam vet Tom Faunce came to him and explained a man he’d found in Vietnam was a former “Army brother” listed as killed in action and forgotten. He says he became convinced only after going to Vietnam and meeting Robertson himself.
What he found was revealed to filmgoers in an invitation only screening of “Unclaimed” at a Toronto theatre earlier this month.
From The Toronto Star:
There is physical proof of Robertson’s birthplace, collected in dramatic fashion onscreen; a tearful meeting in Vietnam with a soldier who was trained by Robertson in 1960 and said he knew him on sight; and a heart-wrenching reunion with his only surviving sister — 80-year-old Jean Robertson-Holly — in Edmonton in December 2012 that left the audience at the Toronto screening wiping away tears.
Jorgenson encountered so much resistance from the US military making his film that he says he’s convinced one “high-placed government source” was telling the truth when he said, “It’s not that the Vietnamese won’t let him (Robertson) go; it’s that our government doesn’t want him.”
Wringing out the details and talking to Robertson’s American family seems to have been a gut-wrenching affair. The children whose names he couldn’t recall declined DNA testing at the last minute with no explanation.
None of that mattered to Roberston who says he fulfilled his wish of coming to America and seeing his kids one more time before he dies.
Robertson’s now back in Vietnam, with no desire to leave and Unclaimed opens in the USA on 12 May, at the G.I. Film Festival in Washington, DC.
- Robert Johnson

Although disturbing this does not apply to being left behind by your unit or commanding officer....this is about bureaucrats that have no honor.


Edit: Shock you beat me to it....

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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2013, 07:36:35 PM »
Although disturbing this does not apply to being left behind by your unit or commanding officer....this is about bureaucrats that have no honor.


Edit: Shock you beat me to it....
This book was written by a North Carolina Congressman:



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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2013, 07:37:57 PM »
This book was written by a North Carolina Congressman:



Same thing Adam.... Soldiers being left to rot in POW camps by politicians is NOT the same thing as a military unit abandoning it's teammates to save their own lives, which is what you were asking in the 1st question.

But you know this already.. you're just having fun.  :D

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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2013, 07:40:21 PM »
Same thing Adam.... Soldiers being left to rot in POW camps by politicians is NOT the same thing as a military unit abandoning it's teammates to save their own lives, which is what you were asking in the 1st question.

But you know this already.. you're just having fun.  :D
Check out the book.  It is detailed of how hundreds of soldiers were left behind, a lot from decisions their commanding officers made-direct orders.

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Re: Answer these Questions for Me.
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2013, 09:47:47 PM »
wasn't this a mash episode where hawkeye yelled at a lady to shut her chicken up,but it was a kid and she smothered it?

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