in comparison, I've known, been next to, been in the same car as, ect... other bodybuilders (npc guys, bottom teir pro's, guys who just did the bbing marketing/modeling-thing and never competed... won't name names) who are the same height as levrone, some with much thicker legs, but with upper bodies that weren't as "complete" as levrones (if that makes sense) who by looking at them, you'd think 'you gotta be 230', and you get a 'thanks dude, but nah, i'm like 205/210 tops today'... kev back then was no larger than those guys. (overall larger, but none had arms/delts like his, of course... but arms don't add 20lbs of bodyweight)