The funny thing is that you could cut alot out of the DOD without cutting the green suiters. We can cut our own grass. The kids are already getting paid, we were responsible for it in the 90's. Red cycle tasking ment that some unit was always pulling base maintenance. Mp's instead of contract security, we still have cooks..make them cook. That is something we're seeing, less civilains in the chow halls. Plus the military cooks seem to care more. The civilian work force is bloated, not just here but everywhere. Those people can get jobs elswhere, they're not stupid people. The issue is that the slots exist so they're going to be filled. My office should have much more military but we have a good cross section of civilians. Mine have specific jobs that they handle. I don't deal with that on a daily basis so I'm playing catch up or we've decided that it won;t be done till they come back. Wars, regardless of who's in charge bring bloat. The purse strings are loose and people spend. Every unit has unfilled positions everywhere. When things get fat, budgets are huge, we fill alot of nice to haves. Extra secretarial slots, cooks....personal security details, aides way down to bruigade level. Those things are going away now, along with the cash