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Best way to run Clen?
« on: November 02, 2013, 10:14:20 AM »
2 weeks on / 2 weeks off
or just keep upping the dose every week up to 120 and ramp slowly down?

no t3/bendaryl/ketotifen... just Taurine

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2013, 10:27:16 AM »
i used to swap clen for ephidrene every 4 weeks, i dont bother with either these days.. you dont need fat burners unless you let your self get too fat, also random drug testing at work forced my hand

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2013, 10:31:13 AM »
2 weeks on / 2 weeks off
or just keep upping the dose every week up to 120 and ramp slowly down?

no t3/bendaryl/ketotifen... just Taurine
everyone I know does it in 4 cycles then jumps on an ECA for 4 weeks then back on clen

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2013, 11:16:10 AM »
i used to swap clen for ephidrene every 4 weeks, i dont bother with either these days.. you dont need fat burners unless you let your self get too fat, also random drug testing at work forced my hand
i know i don't need fat burners, i use ephedrine for pre workout and for the dopamine boost and alertness at school
the clen tho i don't know... i just wanted to switch things up

btw do you think certain drugs can give certain look?

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2013, 11:50:17 AM »
I tried so many cycles over the years and none prolonged the effect of clen.  Your body will adjust and the clen won't work like it did when you started.  PEriod.  The one thing that really helped was kicking in T3 when i noticed the big body temp increase started to drop off from the clen.  Clen downregulates T3, so you will need to replace it if you use clen for a while.  The 2 on 2 off cycles never worked for me.  I just stayed on and of course had a crash when I came off but it was not horrible.  Clen works but it is not necessary and in some cases not worth it if you take into account sides and the crash at the end.

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 12:23:29 PM »
i'll use fat burners as a last resort if time is a factor in getting ready for something (contest, shoot, anytime I need to be 'presentable')... tren is the biggest factor in dropping bf% in my experience.

that being said... lets say I had 6 weeks and I was fat as shit and needed to drop weight quick...

i'd run a combo of ephedrine, clen, and t3. probably 25mg ephedrine twice a day, 40mcg clen twice a day, and 12.5mcg t3 once a day.

that... or i'd run the ephedrine straight through, but run the clen for 2-3 weeks at a time, and when not using clen, i'd double the ephedrine dosage.

like 2 weeks 50mg ephedrine/day plus 80-120mcg clen/day
then 2 weeks 100mg ephedrine/day
then 2 weeks 50mg ephedrine/day plus 80-120mcg clen/day
then 2 weeks 100mg ephedrine/day

something like that... everybody's different, try to find the smallest dose you get results from and work with that, then gradually increase.

(yes, my fat burner advice is 180-degrees different from my steroid advice. lol)
Clen and ephedrine together sounds like an overkill don't you think?
i usually wait 2 days before i start ephedrine after getting off clen

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2013, 12:53:31 PM »
Run it with carbs. Seriously, for someone like myself who has to do keto to diet and enjoys some cardio clen is a bitch with cramps.
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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2013, 05:15:13 PM »
run it with less food.


thats it.

clen raises metabolism rate by roughly 5%.you do the math how "much" that is.

5% of 2000cals equals?

dissapointing, eh?
 
ppl will not have it, they simply refuse to accept,they think a drug will do the cutting for them.

this is not the reality.

your best fatburners are your muscles and your brain by means of willpower.

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2013, 05:28:25 PM »
You make everything seem that people solely rely on the effect of the drug......... 5% extra is an edge or it enhances ones proformence .... why can't you answer yge fellas question instead of telling him your beliefs

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2013, 05:33:01 PM »
If clen works 5% and T3 is another 5-10% or whatever . That's an added 15% results with a clean diet ..

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2013, 10:58:08 AM »
run it with less food.


thats it.

clen raises metabolism rate by roughly 5%.you do the math how "much" that is.

5% of 2000cals equals?

dissapointing, eh?
 
ppl will not have it, they simply refuse to accept,they think a drug will do the cutting for them.

this is not the reality.

your best fatburners are your muscles and your brain by means of willpower.



True.  The biggest effect i noticed was the anorectic effect.  i was straight up having to force myself to eat or drink a shake.  I felt it way more with clen than ephedrine.  Add the T3 in and the weight drops like a stone.  I agree that the temp effect is not major but the fact that I could not eat and was more importantly not hungry at all, was what made me lose a ton of weight. 

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 02:16:05 AM »
Clen and ephedrine together sounds like an overkill don't you think?
i usually wait 2 days before i start ephedrine after getting off clen
nah, that is pure myth, every bodybuilder I know run them together.

As for clen, hate it, ECA crushes clen any day for fat burning and other benefits. If I were to incorporate it, I would only use it on days off the gym, which is like 2 days a week, almost pointless but at least the dosages would never need to be increased.

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 04:32:12 AM »
run it with less food.


thats it.

clen raises metabolism rate by roughly 5%.you do the math how "much" that is.

5% of 2000cals equals?

dissapointing, eh?
 
ppl will not have it, they simply refuse to accept,they think a drug will do the cutting for them.

this is not the reality.

your best fatburners are your muscles and your brain by means of willpower.

Bang on.

Look, I enjoy eating like a wild baboon at times and if I have more then three shitty meals a week, It's a disaster to my build NO MATTER WHAT I AM ON.

Since starting the Gal/No one plan, the leans have changed my physique from so-so to solid.

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Re: Best way to run Clen?
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 09:32:14 AM »

Bang on.

Look, I enjoy eating like a wild baboon at times and if I have more then three shitty meals a week, It's a disaster to my build NO MATTER WHAT I AM ON.

Since starting the Gal/No one plan, the leans have changed my physique from so-so to solid.
yeah the difference between having a soso physique and a very good one is not made my clen, efedrine and the such.

its maintaning 3-5%less fat year round by good diet year round.

i dont see the point of being too fat most of the year and then try to get cut on fatburners only to get tempoararily bit leaner.

a diet gonna work either way, fatburners or not.going into the 4% range will not work without extreme willpower,all drugs int he world not gonna change that.

the effect of clen amounts to 100cals a day,which is actually alot for what it is, but thats basicaly 700cals weekly fatloss benefit coming straight from the clen.would take 10weeks to burn 2lbs of bodyfat, you know, just by the effect of clen.

ok, if one adds gh, this will help some more,also in different ways.if one adds t3, that could amount to 200cals dialy,not things would add up.

and if one run efedrine, well,this is a good fatburner with special other properties, it kills hunger, gives more energy etc.

but al this is not gonna work without a proper diet, and proper diet on t3 can be hard,t3 makes one flat and can actulay burn some muscle away.

meanwhile,a proper diet will always lead to good results,even without fatburners.thats the right mindset.

and yeah 9% is kind off fat for a bodybuilder whos on gear year round.
that guy whos 9% and holds same mscle size like other guy whos 5-7%,will look absolute shit next to him.

makes all the difference.ofc i can eat 4000cals a day and stay somewhere 10% too,thats nothing special, but why do such a thing?

when one diets hard they can easy carb cycle twice weekly, adding up to 1000gramms carbs those days and get awayw ith it, why do it every day?

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