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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2006, 02:16:52 PM »
I have a different problem. My hair is growing really long, today when I was doing hyper extensions it got in my eyes all the time, very annoying  >:(

I'm considering shaving it all off.
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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2006, 06:34:52 PM »
propecia works on your lowering a certain hormone and when you take steriods they affect your hormones, regaine(rogaine) works in the same way but with affecting any hormone level .Rogaine 5 you can get it from any chemist ,start using it when your course and continual when you are finished until any hair you
have losed will return.the longer you leave it or stay bald the harder it will be the grow back. I am 33 years old and have been off and on for 6 years now .My father was bald by 21 and my mothers father was bald

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2006, 03:42:24 AM »
I have a different problem. My hair is growing really long, today when I was doing hyper extensions it got in my eyes all the time, very annoying  >:(

I'm considering shaving it all off.
than u do not have a problem !! :P

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2006, 03:44:50 AM »
how many bucks i need to pay for  that rogaine ?

 
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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2006, 05:53:13 AM »
how many bucks i need to pay for  that rogaine ?

 

lol i just got rogaine, 3 months supply cost me £55 (in the Uk). I just don't want to go bald not just yet anyway lol
Still i am very confused about using PROPECIA, when i do start my cycle i will be prone to hairloss as its in my genetics to go bald and my hair is slightly thinning already. Therefore, should i take propecia or not??
If not why not as it will block DHT which causes hairloss. Also, i read somewhere it will protect my prostrate  ;D
I really don't want this cycle to be the end of my hair, but on the other hand i want to get even bigger - it is the trade-off i guess.  :(

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2006, 11:39:58 AM »
lol i just got rogaine, 3 months supply cost me £55 (in the Uk).
it is good price , almost cheap
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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2006, 07:51:25 PM »
My doctor told me that taking propecia while on steriods will have a reversal effect and that could speed up going bald and to that rogaine as it work very similar way without effecting your hormones.works very well for me and is cheap to buy i only use it once a day at night it will also help grow back any hair you have losed during cycle as long as you dont leave it for years before trying it

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2006, 07:08:21 AM »
i use propecia and rogaine i get the rogaine for free just ask ur dermatologist for samples i always get a couple months worth and ive done it through two drs. go in for some acne stuff come out with free rogaine ;D . when i rain test and eq i didnt notice any additional hair loss. i have a receeding hairline since ive been 18 but it falls out really slow and im 27 now and i still have enough hair to style but i rock it almost bald because it makes me look bigger and better  and i think i look better bald then with hair anyway,  i dont think a cycle or two every once in a while will kill ur hair just speed it up a lil and go back to norm
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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2006, 05:27:58 PM »
I am receding on my top of my head in the front hair is fallin out like crazy with out juice in me i am only 20 this sucks!!!

may i start testosterone cycle ?


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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2006, 08:07:35 PM »
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet...

Finesteride (propecia/proscar) blocks the DHT metabolites from testosterone only.  It does not block the DHT metabolites from A-50, D-bol, Tren or Winny.  So, if you are genetically prone to balding and taking propecia/proscar while cycling A-50, D-bol, Tren or Winny, you will still lose hair.

If you are not genetically prone to balding, you can take all the Test you want (without Finesteride) and will not lose much, if any hair.  

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2006, 10:10:03 PM »
If you are not genetically prone to balding, you can take all the Test you want (without Finesteride) and will not lose much, if any hair.  

^That's me.

With my family's genetics, I will not lose any hair, even if I did megadose on AAS.

No one in my family is pre-disposed to MPB.  I suppose I'm lucky like that.





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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2006, 08:39:08 AM »
u r lucky guy
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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2006, 03:50:03 PM »
^That's me.

With my family's genetics, I will not lose any hair, even if I did megadose on AAS.

No one in my family is pre-disposed to MPB.  I suppose I'm lucky like that.





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THAT'S WHAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.NO 1 IN MY FAMILY (ON EITHER SIDE) IS BALD.IN FACT,BOTH MY UNCLES (MOMS SIDE) ARE IN THEIR 70'S AND STILL SPORTING FULL HEADS OF HAIR.WTF?!? MY DAD HAD A FULL HEAD OF HAIR TILL THEY PUT HIM ON RADIATION,ETC.,FOR CANCER.I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF GEARING WHEN I STARTED LOSING MINE.MAKES NO SENSE...

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2006, 07:50:24 PM »
I am receding on my top of my head in the front hair is fallin out like crazy with out juice in me i am only 20 this sucks!!!

may i start testosterone cycle ?

  It will only get worse. Balding is regulated by how much of the enzyme, 4,alpha-reductase, you have. Finasteride blocks this enzyme, thus eliminating the balding. Unfortunately, it is an expensive medication-first used to treat prostate cancer.

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2006, 09:00:40 PM »
THAT'S WHAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.NO 1 IN MY FAMILY (ON EITHER SIDE) IS BALD.IN FACT,BOTH MY UNCLES (MOMS SIDE) ARE IN THEIR 70'S AND STILL SPORTING FULL HEADS OF HAIR.WTF?!? MY DAD HAD A FULL HEAD OF HAIR TILL THEY PUT HIM ON RADIATION,ETC.,FOR CANCER.I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF GEARING WHEN I STARTED LOSING MINE.MAKES NO SENSE...

You are the blacksheep, Michael......

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A bald head will be your eternal mark of shame.

A reminder of the choice you've made.





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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2006, 06:34:16 AM »
THAT'S WHAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.NO 1 IN MY FAMILY (ON EITHER SIDE) IS BALD.IN FACT,BOTH MY UNCLES (MOMS SIDE) ARE IN THEIR 70'S AND STILL SPORTING FULL HEADS OF HAIR.WTF?!? MY DAD HAD A FULL HEAD OF HAIR TILL THEY PUT HIM ON RADIATION,ETC.,FOR CANCER.I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF GEARING WHEN I STARTED LOSING MINE.MAKES NO SENSE...
by no possibility, do you have a brother, what about his hair?
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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2006, 04:07:25 PM »
I DO.HE HAS ALL HIS HAIR,BUT I HAVE THE GOOD GENES.LOL.

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2006, 04:10:49 PM »
You are the blacksheep, Michael......

The last thug left....

A bald head will be your eternal mark of shame.

A reminder of the choice you've made.





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SHAME? NEVER...A REAL MAN ALWAYS DEALS WITH WHAT HE'S DONE AND NEVER LOOKS BACK.AND THE ONLY TIME I LOOK DOWN IS TO SEE WHO I'M STEPPING OVER...ALL OF THAT ASIDE,NO MATTER WHAT,I STILL LOOK ALOT BETTER THAN MOST 32 YEAR OLDS...AND ALOT OF TWENTYSOMETHINGS...

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2006, 05:12:27 PM »
SHAME? NEVER...A REAL MAN ALWAYS DEALS WITH WHAT HE'S DONE AND NEVER LOOKS BACK.AND THE ONLY TIME I LOOK DOWN IS TO SEE WHO I'M STEPPING OVER...ALL OF THAT ASIDE,NO MATTER WHAT,I STILL LOOK ALOT BETTER THAN MOST 32 YEAR OLDS...AND ALOT OF TWENTYSOMETHINGS...

I was joking, Michael.

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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2006, 09:42:51 PM »
From: Chemical Muscle #10
http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/rea/030704.htm


Testosterone Is Still El-Rey (The King)

One error that exists in choosing a single AAS is the assumption that one cannot alter its characteristics in favor of personal needs. As example, consider testosterone. As a whole testosterone has been responsible for more tons of new muscle than any other two AAS combined in the history of anabolics. Why? Well, first off it is relatively cheap, and second because it is equally anabolic and androgenic.

This means a significant increase in muscle protein synthesis occurs in conjunction with a comparable increase in strength in the form of weight and work-load capacity. More strength means more tissue is worked, and greater protein synthesis means a greater amount of super-compensation results in the form of more muscle for the effort. One fuels the other.

But Testosterone Is For Chrome Domes

Many assume that an increase in circulating testosterone means a swollen prostate, chrome dome syndrome (due to DHT conversion) and gynecomastia (bitch tits, due to estrogen conversion). Oddly enough few seem to consider the use of synergistic drugs to control these negative side effects while potentiating the effects of testosterone itself for personal goals. (Huh?)

DHT Control

The reason that some of the circulating testosterone in converted into DHT (dihydrotestosterone) is due to an enzyme called 5-alpha-reductase. There are several drugs on the market that either inhibit the enzyme or block the DHT receptor sites. A prime and common example is finasteride (Proscar and Propecia). Finasteride acts to inhibit the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme from reducing testosterone (and other AAS) into DHT and has "some" capacity to block DHT receptor-sites. This means the prior characteristic prevents DHT formation and the latter keeps the DHT out of its receptors.

Those it is often said that 1mg daily of finasteride allows for adequate DHT control I have found that for most 2.5 -5mg daily was needed when dosages of testosterone reach or exceed 600mg weekly. Interesting when one considers that this also affords a valuable control effect upon prostate growth (Benign Prostate Hyperplasia AKA: BPH) and a reduction in prostate cancer risks.

Purchasing finasteride in 1mg tabs under the product name Propecia is nearly twice as expensive as buying the 5mg tabs under the product name Proscar and cutting them in half. (Yup!) Both are prescription drugs not all that difficult to acquire as the mere existence of BPH in anyone's family history is cause enough for most physicians.

Controlling Those Feminine Urges

It appears that few are aware of the fact that increased estrogens have been heavily implicated as a primary cause of both hair loss and BPH. In fact it appears that the accumulation of DHT combined with increased estrogens is the actual chrome dome combo of all time. It also appears that males who experience a significant elevation in estrogen tend to become more emotional. (Just what we need: A 300 pound freak upset about his training gear color coordination. Geez!)

Aromatase Control

There are two three types of estrogen control drugs:


Estrogen receptor-site antagonist: These merely block the entrance of more powerful estrogens from their own receptors. The result is less estrogenic activity.
Biosynthesis Inhibitors: These drugs stop the synthesis of estrogens by inhibiting the biosynthesis of the first step in all sex hormone synthesis (namely the production of pregnenolone from cholesterol)
Anti-aromatase: This is a group of drugs that inhibit either the production or activity of the aromatase enzyme that is responsible for the conversion of testosterone into estrogens.
Which One?

Of these the most effective for the control of estrogen production from testosterone are the anti-aromatase. Arimidex, Aromasin and Formestane are the best known. (There is another soon to be available that is more effective, HPTA stimulating and anabolic as well…and it will be over the counter…for awhile). For most who suffer hair loss from AAS use 1-2mg daily of Arimidex, 25-50mg daily of Aromasin, or 250mg of parental (injection) Formestane weekly will keep estrogen levels in reasonable reference ranges.

More Testosterone?

A point to consider hear is that although DHT and estrogen both possess their positive value in the muscle growth process one cannot discount the fact that if less testosterone is converted to DHT and estrogen then there is more actual testosterone left to do its job (Uh, like build muscle)
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Re: test and balding ?
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2006, 10:39:40 PM »
From: Chemical Muscle #10
http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/rea/030704.htm


Testosterone Is Still El-Rey (The King)

One error that exists in choosing a single AAS is the assumption that one cannot alter its characteristics in favor of personal needs. As example, consider testosterone............ ..............


Nice article.....thanks