Breaking the diet plateau by eating more?

[OTHstrong]

What do you have against fat people, assuming that's even true? (It isn't.)

You're showing your true colors here. You're not really trying to give anyone honest advice or share your experience to benefit their training/dieting. You're just here to troll and stoop to the lowest common denominator. It's why I can't take anything you say seriously. You're a fuckin' fraud. And everything you've said so far is contradicted by what most people know about drug use and its effects on muscle gain and fat loss.

lol, even my arch nemesis simple simon couldn't accuse me of that  

[OTHstrong]

More bullshit from a bullshit artist.

My credibility is cemented here at getbig, I have paid my dues, don't need your approval 

[Icelord]

lol, even my arch nemesis simple simon couldn't accuse me of that  

Don't deflect. This isn't about what other people think. It's about you being dishonest when you know better about a topic where you're supposedly a veteran. The fact is, if you were natural you'd look like a pile of shit covered in diarrhea sprinkles. The little glass bottles and the needles you shove up your ass keep you going.

[Icelord]

My credibility is cemented here at getbig, I have paid my dues, don't need your approval 

lol, credibility on getbig.com's gossip/opinions forum
that's very appropriate given the shit you've been spewing in this thread

[Simple Simon]

your appearance is more muscular because you added muscle, you do not lose fat from the compound, the tren makes you draw out a lot of water which gives the appearance of being 3% less bodyfat.

I have no idea what happens, I dont really question it, it always happens through, my abs start coming through more and my low back starts tightening up.
Adding the muscle allows my body to burn more calories and bring the fat through, which in essence is what icelord is alluding to (i think)

Sort of throws doubt on heavily muscled guys not being able to get super ripped though.

[Icelord]

I have no idea what it happens, I dont really question it, it always happens through, my abs start coming through more and my low back starts tightening up.
Adding the muscle allows my body to burn more calories and bring the fat through, which in essence is what icelord is alluding to (i think)

Sort of throws doubt on heavily muscled guys not being able to get super ripped though.

Exactly. Guys who are carrying a lot of muscle and water/fat aren't dieting to lose any. They're either bulking or powerlifters.

Literally there isn't one competitive bodybuilder at my gym with a respectable amount of size who isn't lean enough to see his abs year-round. They have all that telltale "taut" skin look, even if it's smooth from water. Don't see any naturals who resemble anything close to that.

[OTHstrong]

I have no idea what happens, I dont really question it, it always happens through, my abs start coming through more and my low back starts tightening up.
Adding the muscle allows my body to burn more calories and bring the fat through, which in essence is what icelord is alluding to (i think)

Sort of throws doubt on heavily muscled guys not being able to get super ripped though.

its true I agree that muscle has an effect on metabolism but people dieting on a no carb approach or even a low carb approach, the muscle is irrelevant, you will be shredded in no time regardless whether you have muscle or not or whether you are on gear or not.

Saying gear helps you get shredded is a cop out for naturals.