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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2014, 04:44:45 AM »
So obama getting zero done , passing no new laws, stifled at all measures is good for the economy y?   

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2014, 09:59:57 AM »
So obama getting zero done , passing no new laws, stifled at all measures is good for the economy y?   
If all of this were true, why are you on this board ALL DAY EVERY DAY whining like a bitter little bitch?

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2014, 04:15:42 PM »

Don't need to asshole....the number was taken from every man, woman, and child over 16 years of age in the United States.  Only a complete moron would think that all 92 million are looking for jobs 

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2014, 04:19:42 PM »
If all of this were true, why are you on this board ALL DAY EVERY DAY whining like a bitter little bitch?

Jungle Fever compels him to.

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2014, 04:31:13 PM »
so still no links on the number of jobs created by obama?

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2014, 12:01:22 AM »
so still no links on the number of jobs created by obama?

Govt doesn't create jobs. 

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2014, 07:20:01 AM »
Uhh...what? I did not know 7.6%- and rapidly rising by the day- is the same as 5.9% ???

dummy ::)

once again.  libtard gets all worked up because some guy plays "fun with numbers". 

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2014, 07:23:56 AM »
I guess at the end of the day what AD is saying is that all of that legislation that the Republicans didn't allow the Obama administration to pass turned out to be the right thing to do as unemployment has gone down so drastically since Obama took office.

If the Republicans have stood in the way of everything Obama has tried to do, and everything has turned out so well, aren't the Republicans the ones who are responsible for this turnaround?

see?  I can play this game too.  anyone who says that the economy is better right now has their head up their ass.

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2014, 08:14:42 AM »
I guess at the end of the day what AD is saying is that all of that legislation that the Republicans didn't allow the Obama administration to pass turned out to be the right thing to do as unemployment has gone down so drastically since Obama took office.

If the Republicans have stood in the way of everything Obama has tried to do, and everything has turned out so well, aren't the Republicans the ones who are responsible for this turnaround?

see?  I can play this game too.  anyone who says that the economy is better right now has their head up their ass.

You seem to conflate opinion with fact, hence your issue sorting this out.

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2014, 08:27:57 AM »
You seem to conflate opinion with fact, hence your issue sorting this out.

wow.  kettle meet pot much?

so have the Republicans stopped a lot of bills or haven't they?  have they needed a supermajority or haven't they?  it seems you pick and choose when you want to use this fact when it suits you.

and i'm tired of the cheerleading.  your issue is rooting for a guy in a suit on TV that you don't know.   

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2014, 08:29:20 AM »
wow.  kettle meet pot much?

so have the Republicans stopped a lot of bills or haven't they?  have they needed a supermajority or haven't they?  it seems you pick and choose when you want to use this fact when it suits you.

and i'm tired of the cheerleading.  your issue is rooting for a guy in a suit on TV that you don't know.   


I am not rootin for anyone, you are in that world, I don't give a fuck, but the facts are teh facts.

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2014, 08:57:32 AM »

I am not rootin for anyone, you are in that world, I don't give a fuck, but the facts are teh facts.

i'm just trying to make sense out of all the liberals I see and hear day in and day out.

when something points towards the economy being bad all I hear about from libs is that the Republicans filibuster everything and don't let the Obama administration pass any legislation.

when something points towards the economy being good, I hear them say "so there! look how well the Obama administration is performing!"

meanwhile I was forced off of my health care insurance because my premiums and my employees premiums went up by over 60% and i'm forced to go to the exchange to look for something else for myself and for them.  and I don't qualify for ANY credits and the exchange points me towards a Blue Cross Blue Shield plan that costs just as much as my old Blue Cross Blue Shield plan but is a much worse plan.  I'm going through a broker now to see if there's anything i'm missing but it doesn't look good.  remember when he said, we won't have to change our plan?  I guess no we don't HAVE TO.  but he's going to put mandates on all those plans forcing Blue Cross to charge me over 60% more.  sorry, but I see that as forcing me to the exchange.  anyone who doesn't see it that way is a fucking idiot............or a cheerleader.

so forgive me if I don't share your fucking enthusiasm about this unemployment number.

It's funny every time I tell one of my liberal friends all the problems i'm having they simply do not want to hear it and give me a blanket, "you must be doing something wrong."  they just don't want to hear how this stuff actually plays out in the real world.  absolute denial.  it's honestly sad to see so many people brainwashed.

that's life in the real fucking world asshole.  and you're still sitting there cheerleading for a guy you'll never meet.

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #62 on: October 06, 2014, 09:57:30 AM »
i'm just trying to make sense out of all the liberals I see and hear day in and day out.

when something points towards the economy being bad all I hear about from libs is that the Republicans filibuster everything and don't let the Obama administration pass any legislation.

when something points towards the economy being good, I hear them say "so there! look how well the Obama administration is performing!"

meanwhile I was forced off of my health care insurance because my premiums and my employees premiums went up by over 60% and i'm forced to go to the exchange to look for something else for myself and for them.  and I don't qualify for ANY credits and the exchange points me towards a Blue Cross Blue Shield plan that costs just as much as my old Blue Cross Blue Shield plan but is a much worse plan.  I'm going through a broker now to see if there's anything i'm missing but it doesn't look good.  remember when he said, we won't have to change our plan?  I guess no we don't HAVE TO.  but he's going to put mandates on all those plans forcing Blue Cross to charge me over 60% more.  sorry, but I see that as forcing me to the exchange.  anyone who doesn't see it that way is a fucking idiot............or a cheerleader.

so forgive me if I don't share your fucking enthusiasm about this unemployment number.

It's funny every time I tell one of my liberal friends all the problems i'm having they simply do not want to hear it and give me a blanket, "you must be doing something wrong."  they just don't want to hear how this stuff actually plays out in the real world.  absolute denial.  it's honestly sad to see so many people brainwashed.

that's life in the real fucking world asshole.  and you're still sitting there cheerleading for a guy you'll never meet.

No love for Obamacare at all, but how is Blue Cross being forced to go up 60%

Seems to me that the real issue is that this deal FORCED people to have insurance, and when people are forced to go to a company for anything, then that company has you by the balls and can charge whatever you want.

It's complete crap.

I'm not sure what "requirements" would cause them to go up 60% to be honest... sounds like an excuse to jack you.

That said, they wouldn't be allowed to just "jack you" if it wasn't for what Obamacare has done.

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #63 on: October 06, 2014, 10:16:30 AM »
No love for Obamacare at all, but how is Blue Cross being forced to go up 60%

Seems to me that the real issue is that this deal FORCED people to have insurance, and when people are forced to go to a company for anything, then that company has you by the balls and can charge whatever you want.

It's complete crap.

I'm not sure what "requirements" would cause them to go up 60% to be honest... sounds like an excuse to jack you.

That said, they wouldn't be allowed to just "jack you" if it wasn't for what Obamacare has done.

the mandates placed on them by Obamacare is why they have to charge more.  it's really very simple.  our costs are going up so they can pay for the people who weren't paying for it before.  WE ARE PAYING FOR THEM through increased premiums.  

my rep from BCBS called us a year ago and told us that the mandates had been extended until December 2014.  but at that time our rates were going up by this amount.  I didn't really believe it until I got the actual paperwork that showed what my new premium amount was going to be.  keep in mind that a big part of that 60% is one of our older partners premiums more than doubling.  but he was just using his as supplemental insurance so he's just dropping his plan altogether.  personally, mine went up about 35% and I can't afford the plan I was on anymore.  so I went to the exchange and looked at what was available.  you fill out this long ass information sheet and they give you plan options.  since I work and make a decent enough salary I don't get any deal on anything so most of my options were still BCBS plans.  

to be honest I don't understand it all either.  I just know what I was paying, what I have to pay now, and the options that I see available to me now.  and it's awful.  i'm really hoping that i'm missing something so I contacted a client of mine that's a health insurance broker.  she's going to take a look at my options for me.  part of me thinks that it can't be this bad and i'm doing something wrong here.  i'm honestly hoping my liberal friends are right and I am wrong about this.  this is definitely a debate I want to lose.

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Re: Obama Continues to SMASH Unemployment
« Reply #64 on: October 06, 2014, 10:19:50 AM »
No - your liberal free loading friends are right.   They are are not paying shit since most are lazy welfare types not paying the full freight.  You are just the poor sap w the mark on your back tp ick up the slack.  So yes - they are right - you are wrong.   ;)


the mandates placed on them by Obamacare is why they have to charge more.  it's really very simple.  our costs are going up so they can pay for the people who weren't paying for it before.  WE ARE PAYING FOR THEM through increased premiums. 

my rep from BCBS called us a year ago and told us that the mandates had been extended until December 2014.  but at that time our rates were going up by this amount.  I didn't really believe it until I got the actual paperwork that showed what my new premium amount was going to be.  keep in mind that a big part of that is one of our older partners premiums more than doubling.  but he was just using his as supplemental insurance so he's just dropping his plan altogether.  personally, mine went up about 35% and I can't afford the plan I was on anymore.  so I went to the exchange and looked at what was available.  you fill out this long ass information sheet and they give you plan options.  since I work and make a decent enough salary I don't get any deal on anything so most of my options were still BCBS plans. 

to be honest I don't understand it all either.  I just know what I was paying, what I have to pay now, and the options that I see available to me now.  and it's awful.  i'm really hoping that i'm missing something so I contacted a client of mine that's a health insurance broker.  she's going to take a look at my options for me.  part of me thinks that it can't be this bad and i'm doing something wrong here.  i'm honestly hoping my liberal friends are right and I am wrong about this.  this is definitely a debate I want to lose.

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