injectable orals

[pestosterone]

Seen this debated in several threads.
What are your thoughts on injectable orals such as SD and anadrols effects on the liver? Settle it in here lol

[Jizmo]

ill just quote myself here on what i just wrote in the other thread

lol if you think you cant differentiate between real and fake methyltrienolone you must have never ran it.

and youre silly if you think the method of administration does not play a role in toxicity and how a drug exhibits its effects.

ive explained this before. what causes the main damage is the huge hit your liver takes from everything hitting it at once through the digestive system taken orally. thats also whats causing the IGF release from oral steroids.
injecting methylated steroids bypasses this first pass (and sudden hit of the liver), goes slowly and steadily through the bloodstream and through the liver.

injecting methylated steroids is MUCH easier on your body. period.

[pestosterone]

I figured you would b first.

[oni]

Injecting epistane had me sick within the week, orally took well over a month.
It's not really as simple as "it skips the first pass of the liver"

Anadrol will be stronger when you inject it, you will need less. Perhaps the increased bioavailability will mean it damages the liver more. Maybe not.
But for epistane that was true. Every drug is different and it's not really that black and white. So MT has nothing to do with the subject really, because it's not anadrol

[pestosterone]

Thats interesting. haven't seen that post or thought about it like that.

[Jizmo]

oni i figure you made the epistane injectable yourself? im not sure in which form these prohormones come, did you get raw powder? or did you open up caps and put the stuff from inside of there into an injectable solution?

im pretty sure if this is the case your stuff was NOT pure and NOT sterile at all, thats why it had you sick.

[oni]

oni i figure you made the epistane injectable yourself? im not sure in which form these prohormones come, did you get raw powder? or did you open up caps and put the stuff from inside of there into an injectable solution?

im pretty sure if this is the case your stuff was NOT pure and NOT sterile at all, thats why it had you sick.

It was made from raw powder and 100% sterile. Please don't make assumptions.

[Jizmo]

It was made from raw powder and 100% sterile. Please don't make assumptions.

just trying to be constructive and find an explanation here.

i feel very well on injectable orals, much much better than taking them orally and bloodwork confirms this.

maybe the "everyones different" stigma applies here aswell and there are differences between how our livers metabolize the stuff.

[aintitgrand]

oni i figure you made the epistane injectable yourself? im not sure in which form these prohormones come, did you get raw powder? or did you open up caps and put the stuff from inside of there into an injectable solution?

im pretty sure if this is the case your stuff was NOT pure and NOT sterile at all, thats why it had you sick.

If the solution isn't sterile, would it not cause an infection? Feeling sick is one thing, but an infection is serious. Or is it possible that the body can fight the infection without an abscess developing?

[Jizmo]

If the solution isn't sterile, would it not cause an infection? Feeling sick is one thing, but an infection is serious. Or is it possible that the body can fight the infection without an abscess developing?

i was rather referring to purity there. if there are heavy metals or other toxic shit in the powder (=the purity is low) you can start feeling REALLY bad within days.

[oni]

95% of infections some from bacteria that was on the skin
As I said before, different hormones act in different ways. Injectable dianabol doesn't make all that much difference and it's certainly not worth the extra cost to taking another tablet. Injectable anadrol does seem to hit people a lot harder. Not all drugs will act the same way