What's wrong with this?

[Howard]

I'm getting back into bodybuilding for my own personal reasons ( no more, no less).
1. I plan to go a few pro shows next yr as a fan
2. I am dropping fat weight and will compete in a regional NPC show next summer.
3. I'm not doing any steroid cycles , won't compete in national level contests or do g4p or dumb,extreme stuff

I like bodybuilding as a HOBBY and lifestyle.
Why do so many think you have to be juiced to the gills and go for a national show to get anything out of bodybuilding.

Why do some many bodybuilder types think my simple basic goals are silly?

[funk51]

not a god dam thing look what this guy accomplished in 1900 sans drugs supps etc.

[Nails]

are you ready for another divorce Howard?  

[the trainer]

I'm getting back into bodybuilding for my own personal reasons ( no more, no less).
1. I plan to go a few pro shows next yr as a fan
2. I am dropping fat weight and will compete in a regional NPC show next summer.
3. I'm not doing any steroid cycles , won't compete in national level contests or do g4p or dumb,extreme stuff

I like bodybuilding as a HOBBY and lifestyle.
Why do so many think you have to be juiced to the gills and go for a national show to get anything out of bodybuilding.

Why do some many bodybuilder types think my simple basic goals are silly?

If you are not juicing then you are wasting your time, at least you could go trt and do 250mg of test each week.

[funk51]

If you are not juicing then you are wasting your time, at least you could go trt and do 250mg of test each week.

tell that to bobby pandour.

[Howard]

If you are not juicing then you are wasting your time, at least you could go trt and do 250mg of test each week.

How is it a waste of time if you bodybuild without juicing? wtf?
Why can't you just lift, eat good and still make gains? I always did and I'm nothing special.

[muscleman-2013]

How is it a waste of time if you bodybuild without juicing? wtf?
Why can't you just lift, eat good and still make gains? I always did and I'm nothing special.

The Trainer is a cock head.  Best to ignore it.

[Howard]

The Trainer is a cock head.  Best to ignore it.

LOL, ok?

I have no serious personal problems with anyone who decides to juice or go for a pro card ( NPC nationals).
I just wanted to do things on my own terms.
For me it was always positive to :
Train hard, eat well and compete in regional shows without the risk and complications from BB drug use.

So many hardcore types seem to think you have to go for the nationals and a pro card.
For me, trying to win my class at a local or state NPC show seemed more reasonable and fun.

I'm perfectly happy buying a ticket to see the pro and national level guys who have the talent, drive and go for it.

[the trainer]

How is it a waste of time if you bodybuild without juicing? wtf?
Why can't you just lift, eat good and still make gains? I always did and I'm nothing special.

I am just keeping it real the fact is you are over 50 and your test levels are low and your leg muscle start to atrophy, if you where 20 years old I would say train natural but at your age a light cycle would be a necessity.
 You can be stubborn and train natural and you will see some results but it wont be anything impressive.

[Schnauzer]

not a god dam thing look what this guy accomplished in 1900 sans drugs supps etc.

The deltoids look suspect

[Grape Ape]

I'm getting back into bodybuilding for my own personal reasons ( no more, no less).
1. I plan to go a few pro shows next yr as a fan
2. I am dropping fat weight and will compete in a regional NPC show next summer.
3. I'm not doing any steroid cycles , won't compete in national level contests or do g4p or dumb,extreme stuff

I like bodybuilding as a HOBBY and lifestyle.
Why do so many think you have to be juiced to the gills and go for a national show to get anything out of bodybuilding.

Why do some many bodybuilder types think my simple basic goals are silly?

All this silly endeavor does is limit the potential statistics you could be compiling in over 50 softball leagues.

[Howard]

I am just keeping it real the fact is you are over 50 and your test levels are low and your leg muscle start to atrophy, if you where 20 years old I would say train natural but at your age a light cycle would be a necessity.
 You can be stubborn and train natural and you will see some results but it wont be anything impressive.

LOL, in many posts I have been candid about my prescribed use of HRT- Androgel .
It's legal and mostly covered by my health Ins plan , plus I get annual blood work.

I'm not in the 100% natural camp and don't really care what the top guys use to compete.

For me , it's all about being moderate and doing things on my own terms.
Why does it have to be  " all or none" when it comes to drugs, for so many in bodybuilding?

[the trainer]

LOL, in many posts I have been candid about my prescribed use of HRT- Androgel .
It's legal and mostly covered by my health Ins plan , plus I get annual blood work.

I'm not in the 100% natural camp and don't really care what the top guys use to compete.

For me , it's all about being moderate and doing things on my own terms.
Why does it have to be  " all or none" when it comes to drugs, for so many in bodybuilding?

Because bodybuilding is about being big and strong take 500 of test and 400mg of deca so you feel like 20 years old and to help your joints, here is some inspiration.

[Howard]

THAT guy looks great and I don't know or care what he takes.

I always did  bodybuilding on my own terms.
It's my hobby, NOT my job.

In my opinion, it was risky and foolish to use extreme amounts of BB drugs.
Others have different opinions and that's their business.

Once again, why do so many bodybuilder types, act like it's "all or none" when it comes to drugs or competing?

[Europe]

Because bodybuilding is about being big and strong take 500 of test and 400mg of deca so you feel like 20 years old and to help your joints, here is some inspiration.

serious question.. I think my father would need some "juice"..
he trains regularly but mostly medium calisthenics, what would you recommend using?

p.s besides mildly asthma, he has a normal health.. no diseases or nothing..

[the trainer]

serious question.. I think my father would need some "juice"..
he trains regularly but mostly medium calisthenics, what would you recommend using?

p.s besides mildly asthma, he has a normal health.. no diseases or nothing..

250 mg of test enanthate or cypionate weekly would be perfect for him, if he has joint problems then you can add in 200mg of deca.

[funk51]

The deltoids look suspect

site injections back then??

[TrueGrit]

not a god dam thing look what this guy accomplished in 1900 sans drugs supps etc.

Never seen this one. Sure this isn't chopped?

[6 Reps]

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Just curious, who is this guy and how old is he?

[Ronnie Rep]

I'm getting back into bodybuilding for my own personal reasons ( no more, no less).
1. I plan to go a few pro shows next yr as a fan
2. I am dropping fat weight and will compete in a regional NPC show next summer.
3. I'm not doing any steroid cycles , won't compete in national level contests or do g4p or dumb,extreme stuff

I like bodybuilding as a HOBBY and lifestyle.
Why do so many think you have to be juiced to the gills and go for a national show to get anything out of bodybuilding.

Why do some many bodybuilder types think my simple basic goals are silly?

Go for it Howard, just make sure you post pics.

[Howard]

Go for it Howard, just make sure you post pics.

I will post some pics if I end up competing next summer.
I simply have fun in the gym working out and going to various BB contests and expos.
My main goal is to get leaner, maybe compete locally and just have FUN with my BB.

I think people take this shit way too serious and don't seem to have much fun.

[anabolichalo]

people comparing a modern human to those ancient guys are deluding themselves


modern humans in the civilized world have very low test compared to those old timers and rural africans


because of all the poisons in the foods, the drinking water, the estrogens, sedatives etc etc


you dont stand a chance without gear to look like the original humans

[the trainer]

people comparing a modern human to those ancient guys are deluding themselves


modern humans in the civilized world have very low test compared to those old timers and rural africans


because of all the poisons in the foods, the drinking water, the estrogens, sedatives etc etc


you dont stand a chance without gear to look like the original humans

x2 why do you think people are so overweight they eat so much processed foods with chemicals that their hormones are fucked up and even when they are full they still have cravings and eat more.