Bodybuilding drug connections?

[ProudVirgin69]

It is interesting to think about.

These guys get kilos of raw powders through customs somehow, have some type of lab/facility to make it (hopefully), mail hundreds of packages month after month, and have to launder their money.  Many seem to do it for years on end, too.

Is the law that inept or are these guys that good?  Fascinating stuff, IMO

[Howard]

It is interesting to think about.

These guys get kilos of raw powders through customs somehow, have some type of lab/facility to make it (hopefully), mail hundreds of packages month after month, and have to launder their money.  Many seem to do it for years on end, too.

Is the law that inept or are these guys that good?  Fascinating stuff, IMO

I find it interesting as well and that's why I started the thread.
" Breaking Bad" was a mega hit and very popular .

[gracie bjj]

Howard.
Go into any Hardcore Gym
(Most likely any gym will do)
Talk to, make friends, Without being Creepy,
Or Cop like behaviour.
Train hard, & fairly soon you will be speaking
To some that use & or sell.

Not Rocket science is it., Come on.

thats exactly how it happened to me when i was 16yrs old,i was lucky though cause my training partners older brother was a member of the gym for 5 years already and he had all the connects

[gym**rat]

Send a $1,000 to arce, he will send you a complete cycle or your money back.   

[gracie bjj]

Send a $1,000 to arce, he will send you a complete cycle or your money back.   

lol, yes i heard hes a very reliable source

[gym**rat]

lol, yes i heard hes a very reliable source

I am still waiting on my shipment. WU sent 2/8/2012. Should be here any day now.

[whitewidow]

I'm no DEA agent and I'm not looking to score a major juice cycle.
I was just curious, how the drug dealer /client game works in modern , hardcore bodybuilding.
How do the pros get reliable cycles?

They usually hire a retired pro who has now become the hottest new guru and usually these guys have the connections with the "GOOD STUFF"

[gracie bjj]

I am still waiting on my shipment. WU sent 2/8/2012. Should be here any day now.

dont worry if there is  a problem in customs he will do a reship for u,all u got to do is pay the postage.hes very honorable,i ordered off him back in 2008 and im still waiting also.but he told me mail has been slow the last 6 years and not to worry

[Howard]

thats exactly how it happened to me when i was 16yrs old,i was lucky though cause my training partners older brother was a member of the gym for 5 years already and he had all the connects

Really, that simple 'eh?

I've had a few of my fellow meatheads approach me about needing some shit in various gyms over the years.
I used juice from 1983-1987 on moderate cycles and got mine directly from the gym owner.
It was legit stuff back then from mainstream drug companies, like Upjohn and Ciba Giegy.

Since I stopped using 27 yrs ago, I never bothered taking anyone up on their offer to "hook me up".

I figured with all new outlaw steroids labs, and internet traffic, the steroid dealing scene would be a lot different.
I'd be nervous taking anything made in some underground lab. That's the main reason I was always cautious with recreational drugs.

Unless it comes from a legit drug company with real quality control , how do know it's safe and legit???

[gracie bjj]

Really, that simple 'eh?

I've had a few of my fellow meatheads approach me about needing some shit in various gyms over the years.
I used juice from 1983-1987 on moderate cycles and got mine directly from the gym owner.
It was legit stuff back then from mainstream drug companies, like Upjohn and Ciba Giegy.

Since I stopped using 27 yrs ago, I never bothered taking anyone up on their offer to "hook me up".

I figured with all new outlaw steroids labs, and internet traffic, the steroid dealing scene would be a lot different.
I'd be nervous taking anything made in some underground lab. That's the main reason I was always cautious with recreational drugs.

Unless it comes from a legit drug company with real quality control , how do know it's safe and legit???

exactly man, i got my dbols from ciba-geigy labs that was right in north jersey,they also had a organon labs and still do in north jersey,back in early 80's it was so easy to get roids.almost as easy as going to the supermarket and buying eggnog,seriously that easy.i know u know howard cause u where on the scene back then,things have really changed for the worst though,really really changed 180 degrees it seems like

[Van_Bilderass]

Unless it comes from a legit drug company with real quality control , how do know it's safe and legit???

You don't. That's the risk all bodybuilders have to take. But let some other guys use a particular connect/product first... if they are still alive after a few weeks the stuff may be fairly safe.
It sucks having to deal with the black market but there's no other option.

[Mr. MB]

Thanks for your post. While I don't want specific names or places, it would be nice to get some basic details on how it really works.
Hmmm, I read and hear a lot about drug connections, and drug cycles in bodybuilding.
I was curious how it all actually works and I don't get much info on that?

Come on Howard. I'm 74 freakin years old, injured and have not set foot in a gym for several years. I get my HRT scrip from my Doc to cover my andropause. Millions of men do the same. Now if your Doc wont do this or  insurance plan does not cover HRT then you go on line to look for it over seas and low and behold a treasure chest of anabolic steroids and HGH. So for kicks and giggles (I don't need this shit to surf my AARP and anti aging sites) I checked some of the well know on line BB sites that discuss "how to tell if its ligit". Then I confidentially asked some younger friends who still compete and that is how they get their shit and its real and safe from accredited highly rated foreign pharmaceutical houses. Then, if smart, they get several blood tests a year including kidney and liver functions, take a daily  baby aspirin, and donate a pint of blood every 6 weeks.

So with some investigation, caution, it is easy, clean, real and available....cheaper than the Mega Mega Super Black Magic powders sold here and elsewhere.

[Howard]

You don't. That's the risk all bodybuilders have to take. But let some other guys use a particular connect/product first... if they are still alive after a few weeks the stuff may be fairly safe.
It sucks having to deal with the black market but there's no other option.

Believe it or not, you've hit on my main beef with drug use within bodybuilding.
They are forced to deal with shady dealers and underground labs.

This was a direct result of making steroids a felony class drug back in 1990.

The bottom  line is, a bodybuilder has no way of knowing if his juice is safe or legit.
You could piss away a lot of $$ on crap and have no recourse or back up!
Plus, you have to risk breaking the law too.

That's why I never used juice again, after I quit in 1987.

[Howard]

exactly man, i got my dbols from ciba-geigy labs that was right in north jersey,they also had a organon labs and still do in north jersey,back in early 80's it was so easy to get roids.almost as easy as going to the supermarket and buying eggnog,seriously that easy.i know u know howard cause u where on the scene back then,things have really changed for the worst though,really really changed 180 degrees it seems like

It's like buying bootleg booze made in a bathtub , back in the days of prohibition LOL.

Unless I can get a legit product, count me out.

[gracie bjj]

It's like buying bootleg booze made in a bathtub , back in the days of prohibition LOL.

Unless I can get a legit product, count me out.

if u know a uroligist he can write u scripts also ;)my buddy has that connect with his doctor

[ritch]

Believe it or not, you've hit on my main beef with drug use within bodybuilding.
They are forced to deal with shady dealers and underground labs.

This was a direct result of making steroids a felony class drug back in 1990.

The bottom  line is, a bodybuilder has no way of knowing if his juice is safe or legit.
You could piss away a lot of $$ on crap and have no recourse or back up!
Plus, you have to risk breaking the law too.

That's why I never used juice again, after I quit in 1987.

Been using UG ever since man and the one time I got an infection, it was my fault. I refuse to believe you don't know someone who has a good ug connection having been in scene for so long and find it to be a very lame excuse. If the stuff was crap, nobody would buy it again. Good reps exchange products of clients not happy, people talk, if the stuff is shit, you're ruined...

[Howard]

Come on Howard. I'm 74 freakin years old, injured and have not set foot in a gym for several years. I get my HRT scrip from my Doc to cover my andropause. Millions of men do the same. Now if your Doc wont do this or  insurance plan does not cover HRT then you go on line to look for it over seas and low and behold a treasure chest of anabolic steroids and HGH. So for kicks and giggles (I don't need this shit to surf my AARP and anti aging sites) I checked some of the well know on line BB sites that discuss "how to tell if its ligit". Then I confidentially asked some younger friends who still compete and that is how they get their shit and its real and safe from accredited highly rated foreign pharmaceutical houses. Then, if smart, they get several blood tests a year including kidney and liver functions, take a daily  baby aspirin, and donate a pint of blood every 6 weeks.

So with some investigation, caution, it is easy, clean, real and available....cheaper than the Mega Mega Super Black Magic powders sold here and elsewhere.

I am on prescribed HRT with Androgel . It's safe, legit, and covered by my Health Ins

[Howard]

Been using UG ever since man and the one time I got an infection, it was my fault. I refuse to believe you don't know someone who has a good ug connection having been in scene for so long and find it to be a very lame excuse. If the stuff was crap, nobody would buy it again. Good reps exchange products of clients not happy, people talk, if the stuff is shit, you're ruined...

Never had any desire to use drugs from an underground lab.

[whitewidow]

I am on prescribed HRT with Androgel . It's safe, legit, and covered by my Health Ins

just get a vial of the Test depot. I tried the androgel once and it just stinks like alcohol too badly and the absorption sucks. just pin it!

[Mr. MB]

I am on prescribed HRT with Androgel . It's safe, legit, and covered by my Health Ins

Androgel does not even lift me out of andropause. Even double dose. My blood tests tell me to take up knitting and watch Oprah on TV. My ins. covers Test Cyp inject with scrip. I can pee standing up again and pole vault outta bed every morning. And...I am again a loveable Ahole.

[gym**rat]

That androgel was disgusting. I felt like an elephant jacked off all over me after putting it on. I used to use 3-5X the amount and each time I got tested my levels were basically the same as before I used it. I have Anthem insurance and they covered my Watson test cyp for 7 years. Due to my blood issue I am off now but I would get a new 10ml bottle every month and my script read 1/2ml 2x a week. I did that for 7 years and they never said a word. I went to my urologist once a year to get blood work done. I would get off of it for 6-8 weeks prior so my levels would look normal when they tested me. If your doctor wont prescribe it, get a new doc. Simple as that.

[Howard]

That androgel was disgusting. I felt like an elephant jacked off all over me after putting it on. I used to use 3-5X the amount and each time I got tested my levels were basically the same as before I used it. I have Anthem insurance and they covered my Watson test cyp for 7 years. Due to my blood issue I am off now but I would get a new 10ml bottle every month and my script read 1/2ml 2x a week. I did that for 7 years and they never said a word. I went to my urologist once a year to get blood work done. I would get off of it for 6-8 weeks prior so my levels would look normal when they tested me. If your doctor wont prescribe it, get a new doc. Simple as that.

LOL, I always wondered what it would feel like to have an elephant jack off on me and now I know.
I love getbig.

[Howard]

Androgel does not even lift me out of andropause. Even double dose. My blood tests tell me to take up knitting and watch Oprah on TV. My ins. covers Test Cyp inject with scrip. I can pee standing up again and pole vault outta bed every morning. And...I am again a loveable Ahole.

Experiences vary, that's for sure .

The Androgel works fine for me and keeps my test levels in the 600-700 mg/dl range.

[gym**rat]

LOL, I always wondered what it would feel like to have an elephant jack off on me and now I know.
I love getbig.

I can tell you from experience elephant jizz is so much easier to wipe off than rhino jizz. Just saying.

[Mr. MB]

That androgel was disgusting. I felt like an elephant jacked off all over me after putting it on. I used to use 3-5X the amount and each time I got tested my levels were basically the same as before I used it. I have Anthem insurance and they covered my Watson test cyp for 7 years. Due to my blood issue I am off now but I would get a new 10ml bottle every month and my script read 1/2ml 2x a week. I did that for 7 years and they never said a word. I went to my urologist once a year to get blood work done. I would get off of it for 6-8 weeks prior so my levels would look normal when they tested me. If your doctor wont prescribe it, get a new doc. Simple as that.

What's your blood issue if I might ask? If not I respect your privacy. Mine is HRBC. Blood donations and baby aspirin keep my RBCs and hemo just into the safe levels. If I get lazy Doc wants to stop HRT and bleed me out right then and there. Thick blood is a real side possibility to Test supplementation.