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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2015, 02:07:09 AM »
what a statement. how can that not be on a tee-shirt or something.

well all alot of us do. EQ is used for race horses and Tren is for cattle. It's not meant for Human use. that's why we all have to b=find some UGL to buy EQ and tren from if their was pharma EQ and Tren I'm sure some of us might be alot bigger.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2015, 02:08:55 AM »
A good friend of mine get s flu symptoms from Watson test. Personally I think it's the high amount of BB.

maybe he's allergic to cottonseed oil. I checked 3 pharmacys and all of them just had watson. I wanted to try a diffrent brand this time around. paddock was out of stock at walgreens everybody else carrys watson and some other company but it's made by the same place that makes watson's Test cyp.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2015, 05:50:01 AM »
There is no medical reason besides "we've always done it that way" to inject intramuscular when using oil-based roids. Most TRT doctors have moved on to SubQ or use a smaller slin pin to achieve the same results.... You can inject it in ventro-glute and be IM even with a 10mm pin...

https://endo.confex.com/endo/2013endo/webprogram/Paper9064.html



These are from leading expert in the endocrinology field.

Again, I agree 100% with Jizmo. Why cause scarred tissue when you can avoid it?

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2015, 03:52:26 PM »
There is no medical reason besides "we've always done it that way" to inject intramuscular when using oil-based roids. Most TRT doctors have moved on to SubQ or use a smaller slin pin to achieve the same results.... You can inject it in ventro-glute and be IM even with a 10mm pin...

https://endo.confex.com/endo/2013endo/webprogram/Paper9064.html



These are from leading expert in the endocrinology field.

Again, I agree 100% with Jizmo. Why cause scarred tissue when you can avoid it?


to be fair, there was a fairly large bloodwork survey done by forum members that showed IM might be better

 http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-replacement-therapy-low-testosterone-treatment-anti-aging/522984-comparison-between-100mg-test-sub-q-im-labwork-4.html

but heres the thing, IM will obviously cause a bigger spike than sub Q, but that doesn't mean the average test level is any higher over time as its absorbed faster than subQ

Best to just ignore the Bro Tards derping about 'Gear is supposed to be IM bro', I've long since given up trying to convince them that subQ is better (for up to 3 cc a week)

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2015, 09:14:53 PM »
I have long declared MAWSE to be the leading expert on all things TRT related. This cat is sharp.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2015, 03:12:58 AM »
to be fair, there was a fairly large bloodwork survey done by forum members that showed IM might be better

 http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-replacement-therapy-low-testosterone-treatment-anti-aging/522984-comparison-between-100mg-test-sub-q-im-labwork-4.html

but heres the thing, IM will obviously cause a bigger spike than sub Q, but that doesn't mean the average test level is any higher over time as its absorbed faster than subQ

Best to just ignore the Bro Tards derping about 'Gear is supposed to be IM bro', I've long since given up trying to convince them that subQ is better (for up to 3 cc a week)


For fucks sake! I can be done all ways. I think heavy users do have to be creative and find alot of injection sites. I can get away with going right glute/left glute/ right shoulde/left shoulder. I believe most people do it the old school way in the ventra-glute with a 23 gauge 1.5IN. shoulders 25IN 1IN, you can get away with slin pins my only worry is you don;t get deep enough into the muscle. I myself would never shoot a thick oil sub-Q.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2015, 05:52:54 AM »
For fucks sake! I can be done all ways. I think heavy users do have to be creative and find alot of injection sites. I can get away with going right glute/left glute/ right shoulde/left shoulder. I believe most people do it the old school way in the ventra-glute with a 23 gauge 1.5IN. shoulders 25IN 1IN, you can get away with slin pins my only worry is you don;t get deep enough into the muscle. I myself would never shoot a thick oil sub-Q.

To each his own but in my case, subQ really isn't subQ because I have no fat or almost none when I inject. So using a slin pin and going about half a inch in is enough for a good dispersion of the oil.

As Mawse mentionned, in studies, SubQ had slower dispersion rate (less peak) then IM so I guess you could adapt depending on your goal. But I'm a pussy and I prefer injecting more frequently with smaller diameter.

Scientifically, both methods seemed to work but have distinct advantage... Of course, when you use absurd amounts (2g a week), subQ is out of the question...

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2015, 06:20:25 AM »
got bruises that took weeks to leave from .5cc sub q test shot.

Who the hell can get their doses doing that, not realistic at all. But hey, if you dig it...
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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2015, 06:25:20 AM »
got bruises that took weeks to leave from .5cc sub q test shot.

Who the hell can get their doses doing that, not realistic at all. But hey, if you dig it...

1cc with a 23g takes about 4 seconds to administer. I like to minimize my time with a needle in my ass.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2015, 06:47:41 AM »
1cc with a 23g takes about 4 seconds to administer. I like to minimize my time with a needle in my ass.

23 is my overall fav. 25g for shoulder and quads... I place the loaded syringe in a heated magic bag while I wait for the spot to be cleaned and dried so it pushes in easily to lessen scar tissue.

found a place in the US that sells a box of 100 pins for less than $8!
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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2015, 07:13:59 AM »
got bruises that took weeks to leave from .5cc sub q test shot.

Who the hell can get their doses doing that, not realistic at all. But hey, if you dig it...

Yet, you could say the same thing about people developing infection IM... Both methods are valid imo...

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2015, 07:34:20 AM »
It's not dirty gear it's the carbolic acid that some manufacturers don't remove from the enan. Switch to cyp and you won't have that problem.

Any way to remove it yourself?  I still have 90ml test e UGL gear and it's been giving me pain no matter where I put it.  Extreme soreness in quads and shoulders for at least 3-4 days.  My last shot in my quad has been sore since Friday with no signs of getting better.  The source had good reviews but it's definitely the gear.  My last gear didn't have much PIP at all.  I wish I just bought 1 vial to test but I trusted the reviews.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2015, 07:40:30 AM »
Yet, you could say the same thing about people developing infection IM... Both methods are valid imo...


A lot of people have reported the same issue as me, would not recommend this at all. Got one infection from IM shots and knew I should have changed the tip, lol...
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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2015, 07:41:31 AM »
Any way to remove it yourself?  I still have 90ml test e UGL gear and it's been giving me pain no matter where I put it.  Extreme soreness in quads and shoulders for at least 3-4 days.  My last shot in my quad has been sore since Friday with no signs of getting better.  The source had good reviews but it's definitely the gear.  My last gear didn't have much PIP at all.  I wish I just bought 1 vial to test but I trusted the reviews.

have him exchange it. Any solid person would do this to retain the customer. If not, fuck him...
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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2015, 07:49:45 AM »
Your body is telling you to stop doing what you're doing, but you're to dumb to listen. 

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2015, 08:12:55 AM »
I myself would never shoot a thick oil sub-Q.
Yeah, that doesn't even sound right, but hey, maybe there's new science which proves otherwise.

You've got a couple different spots on each glute and can rotate 3 different locations on your quads.  I know delts are a site of choice for almost everyone, but a single abscess in the shoulder would be scary enough to make me say F that.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2015, 08:29:08 AM »
Yeah, that doesn't even sound right, but hey, maybe there's new science which proves otherwise.

You've got a couple different spots on each glute and can rotate 3 different locations on your quads.  I know delts are a site of choice for almost everyone, but a single abscess in the shoulder would be scary enough to make me say F that.

If you can synchronize the delt abscesses, you can get that "capped" delt look.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2015, 09:01:13 AM »
23 is my overall fav. 25g for shoulder and quads... I place the loaded syringe in a heated magic bag while I wait for the spot to be cleaned and dried so it pushes in easily to lessen scar tissue.

found a place in the US that sells a box of 100 pins for less than $8!

25 ga.  1 1/2 

left quad, right quad, left glute, right glute.  Never had a problem

now that PHS are done.... I'll be back to my pinning ways

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2015, 09:37:22 AM »
I use 25 1 inch even that bitch hurts when your pinning a lot. I can't pin certain spots anymore I overused them. I get a dull ache in the spots sometimes. The outer upper corner of my ass has had it.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2015, 09:38:44 AM »
have him exchange it. Any solid person would do this to retain the customer. If not, fuck him...

I contacted them and will post back when I get a response.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2015, 10:33:07 AM »
Any way to remove it yourself?  I still have 90ml test e UGL gear and it's been giving me pain no matter where I put it.  Extreme soreness in quads and shoulders for at least 3-4 days.  My last shot in my quad has been sore since Friday with no signs of getting better.  The source had good reviews but it's definitely the gear.  My last gear didn't have much PIP at all.  I wish I just bought 1 vial to test but I trusted the reviews.

Not when it's been put in solution (oil). Throw it out and take it as a loss.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2015, 10:51:49 AM »
If you can synchronize the delt abscesses, you can get that "capped" delt look.

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2015, 11:07:36 AM »
The outer upper corner of my ass has had it.

Sorry bruh that this made me chuckle. How many pins to that area to wear it out?

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2015, 11:43:13 AM »
If you can synchronize the delt abscesses, you can get that "capped" delt look.
this may sound funny but some delt shots temporarily give a synthol-like effect
sometimes im like an inch wider after a big shot into both delts
thats like a quarter heath in width  :D

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Re: Gear pain
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2015, 11:46:33 AM »
I use 25 1 inch even that bitch hurts when your pinning a lot. I can't pin certain spots anymore I overused them. I get a dull ache in the spots sometimes. The outer upper corner of my ass has had it.

you pin ed or something?
with delts
chest
quads
glutes

you should be fine.
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