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He dun goofed, why on earth would you sell when it was earning that much and had so much potential?


Roy Larson Raymond (April 15, 1947 – August 26, 1993)[1] was an American businessman, who founded the Victoria's Secret lingerie retail store.[2]

Raymond was an alumnus of Tufts University and Stanford Graduate School of Business.

Raymond worked for the Vicks company in their marketing department.[3]

On June 12, 1977,[2] he opened the first Victoria's Secret store at the Stanford Shopping Center after feeling embarrassed trying to purchase lingerie for his wife in an awkward, public department store environment. To open the store, he took a $40,000 bank loan and borrowed $40,000 from relatives. The company earned $500,000 in its first year. He quickly started a mail order catalog and opened three more stores.[4]

In 1982, after five years of operation, Raymond sold the Victoria's Secret company, with its six stores and 42-page catalogue, grossing $6 million per year, to Leslie Wexner, creator of The Limited, for $4 million.[5][6] By the early 1990s, Victoria's Secret had become the largest American lingerie retailer, topping $1 billion. In FY 2009, Victoria's Secret was worth over USD $5 billion.

In 1984, Raymond started My Child's Destiny, a retail store for children, that went bankrupt in 1986.[4]

On August 26, 1993, Raymond committed suicide by leaping off the Golden Gate Bridge at the age of 46.[

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good for him

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Maybe exploiting women in bikini's didn't seem right in the end? :-X

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He dun goofed, why on earth would you sell when it was earning that much and had so much potential?


Roy Larson Raymond (April 15, 1947 – August 26, 1993)[1] was an American businessman, who founded the Victoria's Secret lingerie retail store.[2]

Raymond was an alumnus of Tufts University and Stanford Graduate School of Business.

Raymond worked for the Vicks company in their marketing department.[3]

On June 12, 1977,[2] he opened the first Victoria's Secret store at the Stanford Shopping Center after feeling embarrassed trying to purchase lingerie for his wife in an awkward, public department store environment. To open the store, he took a $40,000 bank loan and borrowed $40,000 from relatives. The company earned $500,000 in its first year. He quickly started a mail order catalog and opened three more stores.[4]

In 1982, after five years of operation, Raymond sold the Victoria's Secret company, with its six stores and 42-page catalogue, grossing $6 million per year, to Leslie Wexner, creator of The Limited, for $4 million.[5][6] By the early 1990s, Victoria's Secret had become the largest American lingerie retailer, topping $1 billion. In FY 2009, Victoria's Secret was worth over USD $5 billion.

In 1984, Raymond started My Child's Destiny, a retail store for children, that went bankrupt in 1986.[4]

On August 26, 1993, Raymond committed suicide by leaping off the Golden Gate Bridge at the age of 46.[


He killed himself 11 years AFTER selling the company, and 7 years after starting another company that went bankrupt.

In 5 years, he made a fifty-fold return on his initial $80k investment. Hardly anything to be ashamed of. And too many possible variables to jump to the conclusion that he was in any way stupid to have sold out so early. It was grossing $6 mil a year by '82, but it doesn't say how much (if anything) it was netting.

For the buyers to take it from $4 mil to a billion in the next decade or so is certainly also impressive, but it's not at all uncommon for small business owners to sell out to much deeper pockets at some point, and for those with the deeper pockets to have the resources and connections to take it to another level.

Perhaps Raymond's only mistake was not keeping a small percentage going forward. Or perhaps not taking whatever was left after the $4 mil profit and putting it into less risky investments and living off passive income. Maybe he had too much personal debt or other problems. Hindsight is always 20/20.
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He suicided because he knew lingeries and thongs he used to sell became a trend among famous bodybuilders and their schmoes

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He jumped because Wexner bought his golden goose for 4 million.

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Leslie "Les" H. Wexner (born September 8, 1937) is an American businessman and philanthropist from New Albany, Ohio, and currently chairman and CEO of the L Brands (formerly Limited Brands) corporation. L Brands Inc. (formerly known as Limited Brands Inc and The Limited Inc.) is an American fashion retailer based in Columbus, Ohio. Its flagship brands include Victoria's Secret and Bath & Body Works. L Brands posted $10.5 billion in revenue in 2013, and was listed as #258 in the 2013 Fortune 500 list of top companies.

Leslie Wexners networth: $7.5 Billion

I am sure the guy that sold VS for 4 million was regrettig that decision.
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He suicided because he knew lingeries and thongs he used to sell became a trend among famous bodybuilders and their schmoes

I think my biggest fear is thongs and lingeries being wasted on females when it should obviously be adorned elsewhere.

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I'm guessing Raymond probably had taken it as far as he was capable. Wexner already had Limited, and no doubt had connections. This was the peak of the junk bond LBO boom.

Making a fifty-fold return in five years then cashing out was not a bad decision, as anyone with any knowledge or experience in business knows. Certainly not worth killing oneself over. Lots of zero sum thinking in here.

Not getting a little piece going forward and especially not being more careful with the proceeds of the sale were the bad decisions.
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BTW, Limited has been a publicly traded company for a long time. Wexner currently owns 13.3% of the shares. I'm really shocked Raymond didn't get a nice chunk of stock.

At $4 mil, VS was just one of many acquisitions the much bigger company made during those years. You cannot compare LB then or now to VS then. LB was already a billion dollar company, more or less. Two different animals.

The 1980s started a string of acquisitions. In 1982, the Victoria's Secret brand, store, and catalogue were purchased from Roy Raymond for $1 million.[4] Also in 1982, 207 Lane Bryant stores were purchased. In 1985, a single Henri Bendel store was purchased for $10 million and 798 Lerner stores for $297 million. Finally, in 1988, 25 Abercrombie & Fitch stores were purchased for $46 million. In 1996 The Limited phased out its ownership of the A&F brand, when it was spun off into a publicly traded company.[5]

The 1990s saw the initial development of the Limited Too, Bath & Body Works, Structure, and Victoria's Secret Beauty. Later in 1998, several Bath & Body Works stores were converted to The White Barn Candle Company stores to begin a home fragrance brand.

In 2005 Limited Brands purchased home fragrance manufacturer Slatkin & Company.[6]

On August 3, 2007, Limited Brands sold 75% ownership of its flagship Limited chain. In 2010, the remaining 25% shares to buyout firm Sun Capital Partners Inc. Stefan M. Selig from Bank of America was involved in these deals


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He suicided because he knew lingeries and thongs he used to sell became a trend among famous bodybuilders and their schmoes

Lol!

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What a chump. I had $7,560,000.  Lost almost all of it and only laughed. So silly.
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Maybe? BUT, I'd like to get some of those models, in their ends.



Oh no, not me. ;D

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I thought I was the only one.....reading his threads is like taking back your morning shit.
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the old adage says what doesnt kill you make you stronger...but most of the time, what doesnt kill you on the spot simply slowly kills you over time...

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the old adage says what doesnt kill you make you stronger...but most of the time, what doesnt kill you on the spot simply slowly kills you over time...

Ha ha well said. Oxygen and food being two examples.

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hope you guys know that VS is a front for prostitution parties...THATS where they make the most income.. not selling panties.. just FYI

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hope you guys know that VS is a front for prostitution parties...THATS where they make the most income.. not selling panties.. just FYI

Pass some of that shit you are smoking over here!

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Pass some of that shit you are smoking over here!

actually its 100% truth... believe it or not.. but I know for a fact its true..