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DanM

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Re: What you guys think of this strength routine
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2015, 01:08:48 PM »
I run a block periodization scheme and have done so for the past few years with pretty good success, I would defiantly ditch the typical BBer gym bro split. I've also ran 5/3/1 and it was a great program but more so for continuous gains, not exactly what you want if you're in a rush to hit a specific number though it will get you much stronger in the long run. I think block periodization with a full body split would be best as far as strength is concerned, think squat/bench/squat assistance or dead/bench assistance/ dead assistance etc gives you more chances to train the lifts.

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Re: What you guys think of this strength routine
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2015, 01:10:39 PM »
Too much volume- unless you're running half the pharmacy. 

When your on half the pharmacy like the pros are it doesn't matter how you train.  The  direct increase in strength that comes from a large increase  in motor neuron size (that comes with mega dosing testosterone) will easily  overcome a  piss poor training program. To bench 450 clean, or on low doses though would require some planning.
Unless one was built to bench...and I am not a short armed guy.
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Re: What you guys think of this strength routine
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2015, 01:14:58 PM »
I run a block periodization scheme and have done so for the past few years with pretty good success, I would defiantly ditch the typical BBer gym bro split. I've also ran 5/3/1 and it was a great program but more so for continuous gains, not exactly what you want if you're in a rush to hit a specific number though it will get you much stronger in the long run. I think block periodization with a full body split would be best as far as strength is concerned, think squat/bench/squat assistance or dead/bench assistance/ dead assistance etc gives you more chances to train the lifts.

BLock periodization makes alot more sense to the natural lifter to me, or someone trying to achieve mastery in powerlifting who has been stuck at the same numbers for years. I believe the accumulation phase is where you work on increasing the size of your muscles before you move into transmution phase (correct me if Im wrong its been a while since I read about it)   So yeah when it comes to block periozation I get it, I think for a high level lifter it is probably superior....but Im not trying to become a world class powerlifter. I also  dont like the idea of gaining muscle and losing it, once I leave the accumulation phase and drop the assistance excercises.  The only thing I may take from block periodization in the routine I posted is I might throw in a small   realization phase where I will do some restoration work and lower my training volume a bit, perhaps to just three light full body workouts for two weeks before I attempt my 1 rep max. Im sure my CNS will be shot by the end of this training cycle Im gonna need a nice deload phase.
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Re: What you guys think of this strength routine
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2015, 01:44:57 PM »
BLock periodization makes alot more sense to the natural lifter to me, or someone trying to achieve mastery in powerlifting who has been stuck at the same numbers for years. I believe the accumulation phase is where you work on increasing the size of your muscles before you move into transmution phase (correct me if Im wrong its been a while since I read about it)   So yeah when it comes to block periozation I get it, I think for a high level lifter it is probably superior....but Im not trying to become a world class powerlifter. I also  dont like the idea of gaining muscle and losing it, once I leave the accumulation phase and drop the assistance excercises.  The only thing I may take from block periodization in the routine I posted is I might throw in a small   realization phase where I will do some restoration work and lower my training volume a bit, perhaps to just three light full body workouts for two weeks before I attempt my 1 rep max. Im sure my CNS will be shot by the end of this training cycle Im gonna need a nice deload phase.

Well there are different block periodization schemes with you describing the most common one, I personally only run accumulation and transmutation phases with a test week in between and after to see what results my last block of training has given me, completely disregarding the realization phase. I don't believe you would lose any muscle mass if going about it the right way, you still maintain the hypertrophy trait with enough volume in the later blocks to keep it steady while pushing the strength aspect. That's why I like it over other models, you can train multiple traits effectively, just shifting their focus around depending on what block you're in. Instead of trying to push them all at once or giving up on one completely