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So many negative reviews on Nerium, yet Shawn Ray says they gave him a Lexus card. Really?

http://stoppingscams.com/how-mlms-ruin-friendships-my-100-honest-nerium-review/

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If you’re reading this post someone is probably trying to recruit you into Nerium, and you’re trying to figure out if the product is any good, whether or not it’s a scam, and possibly even if you’re experiences thus far are common company-wide. In this 100% honest Nerium review I’m going to share my real-life experiences with the company and the product, and hopefully help you decide whether or not promoting or buying Nerium is right for you.

I am not a Nerium Brand Partner, and I don’t make any money selling the product. I’m just an honest guy on the internet doing my best to make sure people can find truthful, unbiased information about work-at-home opportunities when they need it.

   
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If you’re reading this post someone is probably trying to recruit you into Nerium, and you’re trying to figure out if the product is any good, whether or not it’s a scam, and possibly even if you’re experiences thus far are common company-wide. In this 100% honest Nerium review I’m going to share my real-life experiences with the company and the product, and hopefully help you decide whether or not promoting or buying Nerium is right for you.

I am not a Nerium Brand Partner, and I don’t make any money selling the product. I’m just an honest guy on the internet doing my best to make sure people can find truthful, unbiased information about work-at-home opportunities when they need it.

Why I’m Creating this Post in the First Place - I spent over two months evaluating Nerium’s product, company, and sales training because a friend of mine that’s been very successful in another network marketing company made the switch to promoting Nerium and was very excited about the way the company was run and their compensation model. He also assured me that the company was very young and I was getting in pretty close to the ground-level, which is the Holy Grail of MLM opportunity.

Unfortunately, I still haven’t decided whether or not this person is my “friend” anymore. We’ve known each other for almost ten years and always swapped entrepreneurial news/interests and caught up every few weeks on each other’s businesses and how they were doing. It was a healthy, inspiring relationship.

Ever since I expressed the slightest interest in reviewing Nerium and considering promoting it, our friendship has quickly changed. I feel more like a savory, mouth-watering sales prospect than a friend and our relationship has changed to a rigid, “let me send you a piece of network marketing news every couple of weeks” acquaintance rather than something that’s mutually beneficial and no-pressure.

I won’t share this person’s name because I still hope to continue being friends someday and I respect him as a businessperson, but he is one of the top recruiters for Nerium (as he was in his last MLM organization) and there is a decent chance that readers of this review are being recruited by the same person due to the sheer volume of recruits he’s signing up.

And before I go any further, I have made very clear to my friend that I am no longer interested in Nerium but I continue to be followed-up with and treated like a sales prospect. This isn’t a situation where I started dodging him for no reason and didn’t communicate properly – I expressed my concerns and clearly said “I’m not interested” but he will not let up, which seems to be rather common across Nerium’s Brand Partner network from what I’ve read online.

My Initial Concerns: The Product’s Validity - I have a very firm rule that I do not give on at all, whatsoever – if a product isn’t excellent, I will not promote it. I don’t care how much someone pays me. If I can’t believe in the product, then I won’t try to convince anyone else to believe in it either. I expressed this to him immediately, and he referred me to a Nerium-funded research study. If you know what you’re doing, you can hire a research company to say almost anything you want them to say, so I had to dig further.

I tried the product myself (my friend mailed me a sample) and, although I’m only 26 at the time of writing this review, I have very subtle crow’s feet from too much smiling and laughter (a “problem” I’m happy to have) which I saw improve over the 5-day Nerium trial period. There could be a lot of reasons for this, however, so I kept on digging.

The first place I turned to was Amazon.com, since I’ve found that their reviews are usually pretty dependable. The product only had a 3.5 star rating, which at first seems fairly acceptable until you factor in the fact that this data is skewed and not completely unbiased.

When you’re shopping for, say, a phone case on Amazon, you can pretty much trust the rating because the product owner and their friends/family can only leave so many reviews, giving you the peace of mind that almost all of the reviewers have no ties to the company. This is not the case for Nerium. Every Brand Partner’s business is affected by this rating, therefore many of them are absolutely going to log on and review the product positively since they’re selling it.

So I decided to do even more digging, and quickly found this review from a site run by a couple of doctors that I found very balanced, well-researched, and informative. I also noticed many commenters were experiencing the same high-pressure sales from friends and family members as I was, leading me to believe this has something to do with Nerium’s sales training. Then I found a San Francisco news report that made me raise an eyebrow as well. I also found another doctor negatively reviewing the product on her site which raised even more serious concerns for me.

It seemed like everything I was finding not produced by Nerium or one of their Brand Partners cast serious doubt on the validity of the product. Even if it produces short-term results that continue as long as you’re using the product, it can be due to irritation/inflammation of the skin which isn’t necessarily healthy.

I found a lot of concerning information in this stage of my review, but I kept digging and talking with my friend about the company.

The Nerium Success Pack and Training - As I mentioned, my friend is pretty well connected and respected within this company so he pulled a few strings and sent me the training/documentation from Nerium’s Success Pack, which I’m very glad I didn’t spring the $500 minimum for. I’m not glad because the training wasn’t impressive, I’m just glad because I ultimately decided the company was not a good fit for me and I wasn’t out $500 as a result.

There’s a lot of stuff included. There’s Nerium order forms, self-development audiobooks, information on hosting your Nerium party/opportunity presentation, etc… My friend is an experienced network marketer and he said that he’s never seen a company set their Brand Partners up for success so well, which I don’t doubt, but I still wasn’t able to get past the negative information I had uncovered about the product.

A Slightly Less Confusing Compensation Plan - One thing that I really liked about Nerium vs. my friend’s old MLM (which he approached me about as well) was how much easier the compensation plan was to explain. If you do this, you get a free iPad. If you do this next, you get a “free” Lexus (I place free in quotation marks because this is a lease that they’re paying for right now, if you dip below a certain volume you’re still in contract for that Lexus). If you get to that level, you should have approximately $X,XXX in monthly income due to your volume alone.

I liked that, but I can’t explain how unwavering I am in my belief of not promoting a bad product no matter what I’m compensated with. You could pay me thousands of dollars for every person I sign up and I still won’t promote the company if I don’t believe the product and company are setting my referrals up for success.

Coming Full-Circle, Nerium’s High-Pressure Sales Tactics - Ultimately it wasn’t solely the lack of unbiased, positive reviews and research studies that pushed me out of seriously considering Nerium – my friend/Brand Partner did a lot of the work too. I clearly expressed that I had discussed it with my wife and that, due to the fact that I was inexperienced with MLM/network marketing, I was choosing to stay the course with my already successful internet marketing business and other, non-MLM entrepreneurial ventures.

I also expressed a serious concern about damaging relationships I have with friends and family members by going “warm-market”, which prompted him to tell me that we didn’t need to go warm market and we could still figure it out (which was very different than his previous recommendation that I should absolutely go warm-market and approach friends/family members).

As I shared earlier from one of our text conversations, my friend continued to try to use his success within the company to persuade me to sign up under him. An existing Brand Partner’s success has nothing to do with what level of success you will achieve. In my friend’s case, he has about a six year head start on me regarding the network marketing industry so to expect those kinds of results would be ludicrous.

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Re: Shawn Ray recruiting Nerium brand managers - is this a scam?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2015, 12:41:26 PM »
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Re: Shawn Ray recruiting Nerium brand managers - is this a scam?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2015, 01:38:19 PM »
So many negative reviews on Nerium, yet Shawn Ray says they gave him a Lexus card. Really?

http://stoppingscams.com/how-mlms-ruin-friendships-my-100-honest-nerium-review/

From the article

If you’re reading this post someone is probably trying to recruit you into Nerium, and you’re trying to figure out if the product is any good, whether or not it’s a scam, and possibly even if you’re experiences thus far are common company-wide. In this 100% honest Nerium review I’m going to share my real-life experiences with the company and the product, and hopefully help you decide whether or not promoting or buying Nerium is right for you.

I am not a Nerium Brand Partner, and I don’t make any money selling the product. I’m just an honest guy on the internet doing my best to make sure people can find truthful, unbiased information about work-at-home opportunities when they need it.

   
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If you’re reading this post someone is probably trying to recruit you into Nerium, and you’re trying to figure out if the product is any good, whether or not it’s a scam, and possibly even if you’re experiences thus far are common company-wide. In this 100% honest Nerium review I’m going to share my real-life experiences with the company and the product, and hopefully help you decide whether or not promoting or buying Nerium is right for you.

I am not a Nerium Brand Partner, and I don’t make any money selling the product. I’m just an honest guy on the internet doing my best to make sure people can find truthful, unbiased information about work-at-home opportunities when they need it.

Why I’m Creating this Post in the First Place - I spent over two months evaluating Nerium’s product, company, and sales training because a friend of mine that’s been very successful in another network marketing company made the switch to promoting Nerium and was very excited about the way the company was run and their compensation model. He also assured me that the company was very young and I was getting in pretty close to the ground-level, which is the Holy Grail of MLM opportunity.

Unfortunately, I still haven’t decided whether or not this person is my “friend” anymore. We’ve known each other for almost ten years and always swapped entrepreneurial news/interests and caught up every few weeks on each other’s businesses and how they were doing. It was a healthy, inspiring relationship.

Ever since I expressed the slightest interest in reviewing Nerium and considering promoting it, our friendship has quickly changed. I feel more like a savory, mouth-watering sales prospect than a friend and our relationship has changed to a rigid, “let me send you a piece of network marketing news every couple of weeks” acquaintance rather than something that’s mutually beneficial and no-pressure.

I won’t share this person’s name because I still hope to continue being friends someday and I respect him as a businessperson, but he is one of the top recruiters for Nerium (as he was in his last MLM organization) and there is a decent chance that readers of this review are being recruited by the same person due to the sheer volume of recruits he’s signing up.

And before I go any further, I have made very clear to my friend that I am no longer interested in Nerium but I continue to be followed-up with and treated like a sales prospect. This isn’t a situation where I started dodging him for no reason and didn’t communicate properly – I expressed my concerns and clearly said “I’m not interested” but he will not let up, which seems to be rather common across Nerium’s Brand Partner network from what I’ve read online.

My Initial Concerns: The Product’s Validity - I have a very firm rule that I do not give on at all, whatsoever – if a product isn’t excellent, I will not promote it. I don’t care how much someone pays me. If I can’t believe in the product, then I won’t try to convince anyone else to believe in it either. I expressed this to him immediately, and he referred me to a Nerium-funded research study. If you know what you’re doing, you can hire a research company to say almost anything you want them to say, so I had to dig further.

I tried the product myself (my friend mailed me a sample) and, although I’m only 26 at the time of writing this review, I have very subtle crow’s feet from too much smiling and laughter (a “problem” I’m happy to have) which I saw improve over the 5-day Nerium trial period. There could be a lot of reasons for this, however, so I kept on digging.

The first place I turned to was Amazon.com, since I’ve found that their reviews are usually pretty dependable. The product only had a 3.5 star rating, which at first seems fairly acceptable until you factor in the fact that this data is skewed and not completely unbiased.

When you’re shopping for, say, a phone case on Amazon, you can pretty much trust the rating because the product owner and their friends/family can only leave so many reviews, giving you the peace of mind that almost all of the reviewers have no ties to the company. This is not the case for Nerium. Every Brand Partner’s business is affected by this rating, therefore many of them are absolutely going to log on and review the product positively since they’re selling it.

So I decided to do even more digging, and quickly found this review from a site run by a couple of doctors that I found very balanced, well-researched, and informative. I also noticed many commenters were experiencing the same high-pressure sales from friends and family members as I was, leading me to believe this has something to do with Nerium’s sales training. Then I found a San Francisco news report that made me raise an eyebrow as well. I also found another doctor negatively reviewing the product on her site which raised even more serious concerns for me.

It seemed like everything I was finding not produced by Nerium or one of their Brand Partners cast serious doubt on the validity of the product. Even if it produces short-term results that continue as long as you’re using the product, it can be due to irritation/inflammation of the skin which isn’t necessarily healthy.

I found a lot of concerning information in this stage of my review, but I kept digging and talking with my friend about the company.

The Nerium Success Pack and Training - As I mentioned, my friend is pretty well connected and respected within this company so he pulled a few strings and sent me the training/documentation from Nerium’s Success Pack, which I’m very glad I didn’t spring the $500 minimum for. I’m not glad because the training wasn’t impressive, I’m just glad because I ultimately decided the company was not a good fit for me and I wasn’t out $500 as a result.

There’s a lot of stuff included. There’s Nerium order forms, self-development audiobooks, information on hosting your Nerium party/opportunity presentation, etc… My friend is an experienced network marketer and he said that he’s never seen a company set their Brand Partners up for success so well, which I don’t doubt, but I still wasn’t able to get past the negative information I had uncovered about the product.

A Slightly Less Confusing Compensation Plan - One thing that I really liked about Nerium vs. my friend’s old MLM (which he approached me about as well) was how much easier the compensation plan was to explain. If you do this, you get a free iPad. If you do this next, you get a “free” Lexus (I place free in quotation marks because this is a lease that they’re paying for right now, if you dip below a certain volume you’re still in contract for that Lexus). If you get to that level, you should have approximately $X,XXX in monthly income due to your volume alone.

I liked that, but I can’t explain how unwavering I am in my belief of not promoting a bad product no matter what I’m compensated with. You could pay me thousands of dollars for every person I sign up and I still won’t promote the company if I don’t believe the product and company are setting my referrals up for success.

Coming Full-Circle, Nerium’s High-Pressure Sales Tactics - Ultimately it wasn’t solely the lack of unbiased, positive reviews and research studies that pushed me out of seriously considering Nerium – my friend/Brand Partner did a lot of the work too. I clearly expressed that I had discussed it with my wife and that, due to the fact that I was inexperienced with MLM/network marketing, I was choosing to stay the course with my already successful internet marketing business and other, non-MLM entrepreneurial ventures.

I also expressed a serious concern about damaging relationships I have with friends and family members by going “warm-market”, which prompted him to tell me that we didn’t need to go warm market and we could still figure it out (which was very different than his previous recommendation that I should absolutely go warm-market and approach friends/family members).

As I shared earlier from one of our text conversations, my friend continued to try to use his success within the company to persuade me to sign up under him. An existing Brand Partner’s success has nothing to do with what level of success you will achieve. In my friend’s case, he has about a six year head start on me regarding the network marketing industry so to expect those kinds of results would be ludicrous.



Its not a scam...its network marketing.  No different than what I do with Advocare.  You sell products mainly but you bring in other people to get residual income.


Here's my page.  Not a very difficult thing to do

https://www.advocare.com/10111822/
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Re: Shawn Ray recruiting Nerium brand managers - is this a scam?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2015, 06:17:22 PM »
So many negative reviews on Nerium, yet Shawn Ray says they gave him a Lexus card. Really?

http://stoppingscams.com/how-mlms-ruin-friendships-my-100-honest-nerium-review/

From the article

If you’re reading this post someone is probably trying to recruit you into Nerium, and you’re trying to figure out if the product is any good, whether or not it’s a scam, and possibly even if you’re experiences thus far are common company-wide. In this 100% honest Nerium review I’m going to share my real-life experiences with the company and the product, and hopefully help you decide whether or not promoting or buying Nerium is right for you.

I am not a Nerium Brand Partner, and I don’t make any money selling the product. I’m just an honest guy on the internet doing my best to make sure people can find truthful, unbiased information about work-at-home opportunities when they need it.

   
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If you’re reading this post someone is probably trying to recruit you into Nerium, and you’re trying to figure out if the product is any good, whether or not it’s a scam, and possibly even if you’re experiences thus far are common company-wide. In this 100% honest Nerium review I’m going to share my real-life experiences with the company and the product, and hopefully help you decide whether or not promoting or buying Nerium is right for you.

I am not a Nerium Brand Partner, and I don’t make any money selling the product. I’m just an honest guy on the internet doing my best to make sure people can find truthful, unbiased information about work-at-home opportunities when they need it.

Why I’m Creating this Post in the First Place - I spent over two months evaluating Nerium’s product, company, and sales training because a friend of mine that’s been very successful in another network marketing company made the switch to promoting Nerium and was very excited about the way the company was run and their compensation model. He also assured me that the company was very young and I was getting in pretty close to the ground-level, which is the Holy Grail of MLM opportunity.

Unfortunately, I still haven’t decided whether or not this person is my “friend” anymore. We’ve known each other for almost ten years and always swapped entrepreneurial news/interests and caught up every few weeks on each other’s businesses and how they were doing. It was a healthy, inspiring relationship.

Ever since I expressed the slightest interest in reviewing Nerium and considering promoting it, our friendship has quickly changed. I feel more like a savory, mouth-watering sales prospect than a friend and our relationship has changed to a rigid, “let me send you a piece of network marketing news every couple of weeks” acquaintance rather than something that’s mutually beneficial and no-pressure.

I won’t share this person’s name because I still hope to continue being friends someday and I respect him as a businessperson, but he is one of the top recruiters for Nerium (as he was in his last MLM organization) and there is a decent chance that readers of this review are being recruited by the same person due to the sheer volume of recruits he’s signing up.

And before I go any further, I have made very clear to my friend that I am no longer interested in Nerium but I continue to be followed-up with and treated like a sales prospect. This isn’t a situation where I started dodging him for no reason and didn’t communicate properly – I expressed my concerns and clearly said “I’m not interested” but he will not let up, which seems to be rather common across Nerium’s Brand Partner network from what I’ve read online.

My Initial Concerns: The Product’s Validity - I have a very firm rule that I do not give on at all, whatsoever – if a product isn’t excellent, I will not promote it. I don’t care how much someone pays me. If I can’t believe in the product, then I won’t try to convince anyone else to believe in it either. I expressed this to him immediately, and he referred me to a Nerium-funded research study. If you know what you’re doing, you can hire a research company to say almost anything you want them to say, so I had to dig further.

I tried the product myself (my friend mailed me a sample) and, although I’m only 26 at the time of writing this review, I have very subtle crow’s feet from too much smiling and laughter (a “problem” I’m happy to have) which I saw improve over the 5-day Nerium trial period. There could be a lot of reasons for this, however, so I kept on digging.

The first place I turned to was Amazon.com, since I’ve found that their reviews are usually pretty dependable. The product only had a 3.5 star rating, which at first seems fairly acceptable until you factor in the fact that this data is skewed and not completely unbiased.

When you’re shopping for, say, a phone case on Amazon, you can pretty much trust the rating because the product owner and their friends/family can only leave so many reviews, giving you the peace of mind that almost all of the reviewers have no ties to the company. This is not the case for Nerium. Every Brand Partner’s business is affected by this rating, therefore many of them are absolutely going to log on and review the product positively since they’re selling it.

So I decided to do even more digging, and quickly found this review from a site run by a couple of doctors that I found very balanced, well-researched, and informative. I also noticed many commenters were experiencing the same high-pressure sales from friends and family members as I was, leading me to believe this has something to do with Nerium’s sales training. Then I found a San Francisco news report that made me raise an eyebrow as well. I also found another doctor negatively reviewing the product on her site which raised even more serious concerns for me.

It seemed like everything I was finding not produced by Nerium or one of their Brand Partners cast serious doubt on the validity of the product. Even if it produces short-term results that continue as long as you’re using the product, it can be due to irritation/inflammation of the skin which isn’t necessarily healthy.

I found a lot of concerning information in this stage of my review, but I kept digging and talking with my friend about the company.

The Nerium Success Pack and Training - As I mentioned, my friend is pretty well connected and respected within this company so he pulled a few strings and sent me the training/documentation from Nerium’s Success Pack, which I’m very glad I didn’t spring the $500 minimum for. I’m not glad because the training wasn’t impressive, I’m just glad because I ultimately decided the company was not a good fit for me and I wasn’t out $500 as a result.

There’s a lot of stuff included. There’s Nerium order forms, self-development audiobooks, information on hosting your Nerium party/opportunity presentation, etc… My friend is an experienced network marketer and he said that he’s never seen a company set their Brand Partners up for success so well, which I don’t doubt, but I still wasn’t able to get past the negative information I had uncovered about the product.

A Slightly Less Confusing Compensation Plan - One thing that I really liked about Nerium vs. my friend’s old MLM (which he approached me about as well) was how much easier the compensation plan was to explain. If you do this, you get a free iPad. If you do this next, you get a “free” Lexus (I place free in quotation marks because this is a lease that they’re paying for right now, if you dip below a certain volume you’re still in contract for that Lexus). If you get to that level, you should have approximately $X,XXX in monthly income due to your volume alone.

I liked that, but I can’t explain how unwavering I am in my belief of not promoting a bad product no matter what I’m compensated with. You could pay me thousands of dollars for every person I sign up and I still won’t promote the company if I don’t believe the product and company are setting my referrals up for success.

Coming Full-Circle, Nerium’s High-Pressure Sales Tactics - Ultimately it wasn’t solely the lack of unbiased, positive reviews and research studies that pushed me out of seriously considering Nerium – my friend/Brand Partner did a lot of the work too. I clearly expressed that I had discussed it with my wife and that, due to the fact that I was inexperienced with MLM/network marketing, I was choosing to stay the course with my already successful internet marketing business and other, non-MLM entrepreneurial ventures.

I also expressed a serious concern about damaging relationships I have with friends and family members by going “warm-market”, which prompted him to tell me that we didn’t need to go warm market and we could still figure it out (which was very different than his previous recommendation that I should absolutely go warm-market and approach friends/family members).

As I shared earlier from one of our text conversations, my friend continued to try to use his success within the company to persuade me to sign up under him. An existing Brand Partner’s success has nothing to do with what level of success you will achieve. In my friend’s case, he has about a six year head start on me regarding the network marketing industry so to expect those kinds of results would be ludicrous.


that stuff can give you an anal prolapse

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Re: Shawn Ray recruiting Nerium brand managers - is this a scam?
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that stuff can give you an anal prolapse


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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2015, 07:08:48 PM »

Its not a scam...its network marketing.  No different than what I do with Advocare.  You sell products mainly but you bring in other people to get residual income.


Here's my page.  Not a very difficult thing to do

https://www.advocare.com/10111822/

A scam and a lazy way to try and make money. Who would've thought you'd talk in favour of it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2015, 07:25:04 PM »
A scam and a lazy way to try and make money. Who would've thought you'd talk in favour of it.


I've been in Advocare for about 4 years and I'm at the Advisor Level at this point giving me the maximum discounts and residual income.  It pays the bills and I'm now actually considering joining Shawn in Nerium.  Jim Manion and his wife have joined in as well as a number of other athletes so something apparently going on.  Never hurts to ask.
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Re: Shawn Ray recruiting Nerium brand managers - is this a scam?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2015, 08:12:15 PM »

I've been in Advocare for about 4 years and I'm at the Advisor Level at this point giving me the maximum discounts and residual income.  It pays the bills and I'm now actually considering joining Shawn in Nerium.  Jim Manion and his wife have joined in as well as a number of other athletes so something apparently going on.  Never hurts to ask.

Advocare does NOT pay all of your bills.. You dont even make a consistent $1,000 / per month
If you do - show the proof... There is no reason you shouldn't ... But you won't... MLM is a very inefficient method to wealth. With the same effort - invested intelligently - you can earn literally 100 times as much.
There is just no excuse for anyone in America to be unable to build wealth. The fact is that if you aren't wealthy its 100% your own fault. Get so sick of whiney bitches saying its luck... I CREATE my luck..
But I digress... Dont waste your time chasing this nonsense...

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2015, 08:18:54 PM »
Advocare does NOT pay all of your bills.. You dont even make a consistent $1,000 / per month
If you do - show the proof... There is no reason you shouldn't ... But you won't... MLM is a very inefficient method to wealth. With the same effort - invested intelligently - you can earn literally 100 times as much.
There is just no excuse for anyone in America to be unable to build wealth. The fact is that if you aren't wealthy its 100% your own fault. Get so sick of whiney bitches saying its luck... I CREATE my luck..
But I digress... Dont waste your time chasing this nonsense...


Of course it doesn't pay all the bills but alongside my other business ventures it keeps me from being on the government dole collecting food stamps and welfare.  BTW, I did discover the reason why a bunch of athletes are signing. 

I live in Sylva currently....jobs are scarce and they pay very little.  Gotta do what I have to do
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Re: Shawn Ray recruiting Nerium brand managers - is this a scam?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2015, 08:27:03 PM »

Its not a scam...its network marketing.  No different than what I do with Advocare.  You sell products mainly but you bring in other people to get residual income.


Here's my page.  Not a very difficult thing to do

https://www.advocare.com/10111822/

I knew vince would be hawking something similar if not the same shit.
all drugs - TPPIIP