Can anyone explain Belfort/Weidman's test levels?

[Submissionfytr]

Brett Okamoto ‏@bokamotoESPN

On 3/16, @vitorbelfort had 12 ng/mL t-level and 1.7 T/E ratio. On 4/28, he had 5 ng/mL and 1.5.

 

On 3/30, @ChrisWeidmanUFC had 3.7 ng/mL t-level. .092 T/E. On 4/27, he had 3.7 ng/mL again and .13 T/E.

[El Diablo Blanco]

They looked through the random photos thread before one of the tests.

[Submissionfytr]

Is there anyway Belfort could get his natural test levels that high and stable after years of PED use, then TRT, and finally being off TRT for almost 2 years? Is there any known method for bringing your test levels back after all that, especially since he said he's diagnosed with Hypogonadism and his body makes no testosterone? Is there a legal, permitted way he could bring his levels back to these?

[SquidVicious]

Basically those results indicate that Weidman is artificially suppressing his T levels through additional drug manipulation. I'm sure there's a juiced up "supplement guru" working closely with Team Serra-Longo. Just because Weidman doesn't look jacked doesn't mean he's clean. It just means he doesn't lift weights.

[Europe]

Basically those results indicate that Weidman is artificially suppressing his T levels through additional drug manipulation. I'm sure there's a juiced up "supplement guru" working closely with Team Serra-Longo. Just because Weidman doesn't look jacked doesn't mean he's clean. It just means he doesn't lift weights.

Jon Jones also had low T levels if I remember.. same technique I assume.

[mame09]

if u see the weigh in pics of his fight against weidman you can see the GH injection marks all over his abs

[Irongrip400]

Is there anyway Belfort could get his natural test levels that high and stable after years of PED use, then TRT, and finally being off TRT for almost 2 years? Is there any known method for bringing your test levels back after all that, especially since he said he's diagnosed with Hypogonadism and his body makes no testosterone? Is there a legal, permitted way he could bring his levels back to these?

HCG and clomid.

[Radical Plato]

Brett Okamoto ‏@bokamotoESPN

On 3/16, @vitorbelfort had 12 ng/mL t-level and 1.7 T/E ratio. On 4/28, he had 5 ng/mL and 1.5.

 

On 3/30, @ChrisWeidmanUFC had 3.7 ng/mL t-level. .092 T/E. On 4/27, he had 3.7 ng/mL again and .13 T/E.

I'll explain it to you.  Vitor Belfort has been a lifelong PED user/abuser, he is still using PED's for this fight against Weidman.  Belfort doesn't give a fuck at this stage of his career as every fight is potentially his last anyway, so he continues to push the boundaries.  Here is what Weidman had to say on the matter after both fighters weighed in.

“I left him alone with this whole drug test thing, but we just found out during camp he had a (high) testosterone score. I'm ten years younger than him, and he's got a way higher testosterone level,” declared Weidman. “This guy is still cheating and I'm gonna make him pay for it tomorrow.”

[sancho ed]

That's quite a difference....and they are still letting vitor fight? I guess u can't ruin the co main event lol. Wonder if he will be getting suspended after....

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Radical Plato]

In MMA, Physique has nothing to do with definite steroid use, think Josh Barnett. There are steroids that you can take that increase strength and aggression and have little impact on muscle mass.

[Competitor 9]

In MMA, Physique has nothing to do with definite steroid use, think Josh Barnett. There are steroids that you can take that increase strength and aggression and have little impact on muscle mass.

I'm pretty sure that evidence he cane off gear.  Either he stop Working out and training.. Or he aged 25 years in the pics. That's the only explanation for that kinda of change if he was nature.

[Radical Plato]

I'm pretty sure that evidence he cane off gear.  Either he stop Working out and training.. Or he aged 25 years in the pics. That's the only explanation for that kinda of change if he was nature.

He doesn't look that different, he still is reasonably lean, his muscles are just lacking hardness.   The difference isn't that dramatic, nowhere what it should be for a lifetime PED abuser who was now training without them.  Like I said he is probably running some other popular gear that MMA fighters prefer, like Drostanolone, helps increase test  and aggression but not necessarily muscle building.

[Van_Bilderass]

Like I said he is probably running some other popular gear that MMA fighters prefer, like Drostanolone, helps increase test  and aggression but not necessarily muscle building.

They are running a bunch of peptides, even if off androgens. Problem is, nothing is as effective as steroids. Drostanolone and the like is high risk stuff, easy to get caught.

As far as testosterone, if test ratio is suspect they should be doing the isotope test to see if there is any synthetic test in there. I don't know if they are or not but I don't think they really want anyone to fail, they just want reasonable deniability, to say they are trying to catch the cheaters.

Contrary to popular belief, with the testing available today, it's very hard to do steroids without getting caught - if someone really wants to catch them that is.

I'm pretty sure that evidence he cane off gear.  Either he stop Working out and training.. Or he aged 25 years in the pics. That's the only explanation for that kinda of change if he was nature.

Definitely not on the same stack, but definitely still on drugs. Not saying that because of the way he looks but there is some potentially undetectable stuff... and they will do whatever can give a little edge. HCG, triptorelin, igf-1, insulin, GH, GHRP's, microdosing EPO, stuff like that. Even things like Viagra that might give a little edge and aren't even banned.

[Radical Plato]

They are running a bunch of peptides, even if off androgens. Problem is, nothing is as effective as steroids. Drostanolone and the like is high risk stuff, easy to get caught.

As far as testosterone, if test ratio is suspect they should be doing the isotope test to see if there is any synthetic test in there. I don't know if they are or not but I don't think they really want anyone to fail, they just want reasonable deniability, to say they are trying to catch the cheaters.

Contrary to popular belief, with the testing available today, it's very hard to do steroids without getting caught - if someone really wants to catch them that is.

Definitely not on the same stack, but definitely still on drugs. Not saying that because of the way he looks but there is some potentially undetectable stuff... and they will do whatever can give a little edge. HCG, triptorelin, igf-1, insulin, GH, GHRP's, microdosing EPO, stuff like that. Even things like Viagra that might give a little edge and aren't even banned.

Viagra, REALLY !  Seriously, I have never used the stuff, so I have no idea how it affects performance outside of sexual relations.  Is Viagra performance enhancing in terms of sport and surely there could be some unwanted side effects come fight night.

[Van_Bilderass]

Viagra, REALLY !  Seriously, I have never used the stuff, so I have no idea how it affects performance outside of sexual relations.  Is Viagra performance enhancing in terms of sport and surely there could be some unwanted side effects come fight night.

It does a lot of stuff. Can even increase testosterone a bit. It does not usually give you an erection
just like that, whether in the octagon or bodybuilding stage - and a lot of bodybuilders use Viagra before stage and year round Viagra use before workouts is rampant in bodybuilding. All the BALCO athletes had Viagra in their doping programs from what I read.

Even back in 2006-2008 there were articles like this in the news:

Traces of the drug in competitors' urine samples are becoming so widespread the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) is considering adding Viagra to the list of substances banned in international sports.

Christian Ayotte, head of a Wada-accredited laboratory in Montreal, Canada, said she regularly identifies Viagra, and other similar drugs, in urine samples from male athletes.

"Each time there is a seizure of banned drugs you can be sure that there's Viagra and Cialis found as well," she said.

At present no action is taken because the drug, which is widely available on the internet, is not illegal.

Experts believe Viagra could help in events requiring explosive power, such as sprinting. The drug works by dilating blood vessels allowing more blood to reach the penis. This action could also allow more oxygen and nutrients to reach muscles.

Other experts suggest the drug, which allows couples to have longer sex sessions, could also help with endurance sports, like marathons and cycling.

Don Catlin, an American expert on doping, said he had suggested several years ago that Viagra could be used to enhance athletic performance.

"I thought there was some reason to be concerned about it and to put it on [Wada's banned] list," he told the Sunday Times newspaper.

A study of cyclists who took sildenafil citrate (the scientific name for Viagra) while racing at altitude found it reduced their time over 6km by 15 per cent.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2174238/Athletes-take-Viagra-to-improve-performance.html

[Radical Plato]

Weidmans result is suspect as well, considering it is well below the average mans T:E ratio.  This is becoming more common as athletes take Epitestosterone to hide test use and reduce there T:E ratio.

[local hero]

It does a lot of stuff. Can even increase testosterone a bit. It does not usually give you an erection
just like that, whether in the octagon or bodybuilding stage - and a lot of bodybuilders use Viagra before stage and year round Viagra use before workouts is rampant in bodybuilding. All the BALCO athletes had Viagra in their doping programs from what I read.

Even back in 2006-2008 there were articles like this in the news:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2174238/Athletes-take-Viagra-to-improve-performance.html

Hmmmm guys taking viagra before getting up close and personal with bro's, 'rolling' in da cage...  It all makes sense now