Client at work had massive emtional meldown (need advice)

[Howard]

I see him to sign papers in half an hour. I'll report back any nonsense he spews. This is the first time with this job that I've felt I don't want to give these people money, but I won't throw away my end. If his wife is there I'll ask her what she plans to spend the money on and watch for his reaction.

Good luck, reminds me of this movie scene ( 37- 59 sec) LOL

[disco_stu]

He has legally adopted this kid, so he's entitled to claim the money. What he does with the money is of no concern to me. ...

next time the government or anyone misappropriates funds, or attempts anything dodgy, you have no right to complain.

your conscience, demeanour and character are summed up in those 2 sentences.

i have something novel for you to try. try being an honest person and earn your living doing the right thing FFS!

if you know what he's going to do with it, then show him the door, dipshit!

and finally- sharing information on this in a public forum..?!.... what the hell is wrong with you?!

learn some class and some integrity.

[James28]

You know what is easy to do and pays decent money?
Learn to code webpages. Half of India does it.

Apart from the fact that it's not. Easy yes, but doesn't pay decent money and every fucking Democrat voting, latte sipping 22yo hipster does it.

Now proper coding, yes. Unfortunately you need the aptitude for it and really stick to it to be successful. If you don't go home after work and code for fun, you probably won't get very far.

If I was him, I'd retrain to be an electrician or some trade. Yes, they'll all tell you that it's oversubscribed and the ass fell out of it, no money in it anymore, bla bla bla. Try getting one of these c'unts to rewire a room. They're booked out 2-3 weeks in advance. You work for yourself, no moody bitchy colleagues to deal with and work your own hours.

[Howard]

next time the government or anyone misappropriates funds, or attempts anything dodgy, you have no right to complain.

your conscience, demeanour and character are summed up in those 2 sentences.

i have something novel for you to try. try being an honest person and earn your living doing the right thing FFS!

if you know what he's going to do with it, then show him the door, dipshit!

and finally- sharing information on this in a public forum..?!.... what the hell is wrong with you?!

learn some class and some integrity.

GE paid zero (0) taxes and had billions in posted profits a few years back.
Before the 2004 elections it was revealed that VP Dick Cheny and dem nominee John Kerry paid the same effective tax rate % as a middle class working slob making 60 k a yr.

The biggest tax cheats are the one's with the most money. Fact!

[James28]

GE paid zero (0) taxes and had billions in posted profits a few years back.
Before the 2004 elections it was revealed that VP Dick Cheny and dem nominee John Kerry paid the same effective tax rate % as a middle class working slob making 60 k a yr.

The biggest tax cheats are the one's with the most money. Fact!

To be fair, they're not tax evading, they're just avoiding it. If me and you can get away paying the full amount with some loophole, we'll jump to it and brag how we got one over the government. GE does it, they're the bad guys. I have a full time job and a share in a company. Just through my job I'm already on the top tax rate. Add the business earnings in and I pay and ugly amount of tax. If an accountant can find me a way to pay less, you bet I'm going to do it.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Does he need a vehicle to get to school? Have him post here. We at Getbig like to get charities going for people...

[wes]

Tell him , he can always make some extra cash  ,making videos for Joon's entertainment or  he can PM  strangers  online begging for  money  or he can bet on the next UFC ,Aldo vs McConnor ,if he wins he make some money, if he loses  he doesn't have to pay it , win-win situation

LOL 

[Howard]

To be fair, they're not tax evading, they're just avoiding it. If me and you can get away paying the full amount with some loophole, we'll jump to it and brag how we got one over the government. GE does it, they're the bad guys. I have a full time job and a share in a company. Just through my job I'm already on the top tax rate. Add the business earnings in and I pay and ugly amount of tax. If an accountant can find me a way to pay less, you bet I'm going to do it.

 In the words of Boss Hogg ; " It's all perfectly legal " 

[Mr Anabolic]

NEVER get married... NEVER have kids... you'll NEVER have these problems.

[gcb]

you shouldn't judge his girlfriend - obviously bulking before cutting for a contest.
make sure he gets food in during his anabolic window after training - this fixes all problems.

[calfzilla]

What I would do in his situation is leave my fat wife and abandon my retarded kids and start over in another country like Italy or Morocco.

  See if this guy has a church pastor of some other type of mentor to help him, you are his tax preparer for fuck sake.

[booty]

I think the guy needs someone to talk to professionally.

[Parker]

GE paid zero (0) taxes and had billions in posted profits a few years back.
Before the 2004 elections it was revealed that VP Dick Cheny and dem nominee John Kerry paid the same effective tax rate % as a middle class working slob making 60 k a yr.

The biggest tax cheats are the one's with the most and the least money. Fact!

fixed

[Mawse]

lol, this 'client' wouldn't happen be you would it?

lucky for you getbig doesn't know who the infamous NoWeakness is so you can keep this nonsense going

[forillagorilla]

next time the government or anyone misappropriates funds, or attempts anything dodgy, you have no right to complain.

your conscience, demeanour and character are summed up in those 2 sentences.

i have something novel for you to try. try being an honest person and earn your living doing the right thing FFS!

if you know what he's going to do with it, then show him the door, dipshit!

and finally- sharing information on this in a public forum..?!.... what the hell is wrong with you?!

learn some class and some integrity.

You are absolutely wrong. In fact if the client is legally entitled to it - he might very well find his azz in trouble if he denies the money.
I had one of my loan officers ask me a very similar question a few months back. He had a client that he felt was going to waste the money he was getting by refinancing - BUT the client was fully approved under DU.. Absolutely no way in hell we tell that client no. We can give subtle advice - but if you are not a CFP you cannot go too far.

[Skorp1o]

I don't think school is going to fix his problem...employers just don't go "oh yeah you have a degree/certificate here's a job". Seems like he's still lost and thinks he found solutions where in reality he is far off it.

[Kwon_2]

Never ran across this in all my time working and figured this forum would get some lulz from it with a sprinkle of solid adice thrown in.

I deal with a lot of mentally ill clients (I work in the tax field), and this guy, holy shit, I never seen something like this.

Guy is married, has a 6 year old with his wife (who's super intelligent, all-star athletic caliber at 6, seems good genes), has a step son who is 12 (severe mental ill problems... no genetics of his obv). So he's trying to get me to get money for his family for this step son through tax credit (my job). This guy had massive emotional meltdown in front of me this morning and I was left with absolutely no solid advice for him.

Backstory on this guy.... was an alcoholic all through his 20's. He's in his late 30's now. He has no hs education whatsoever (so he's fucked already), and wants to go back to get his high school diploma then go to community college for a business degree. His wife just found out she has diabetes, she's about 320lbs, one of those stereotypical moms who was good looking as a teen but let herself go and there's no going back. He wants to get money for this kid as a dependant and use it for himself to go to college (wtf?).

Getbiggers prob all have business degrees so.... how in the world is this guy going to be in his 40's and start off a career? Is this even possible in a recession and over population, where another man in his early 20's will have an equal to better education and work history than him. He doesn't seem to handle stress well at all, and the business world is full of cold hearted sharks. Its also full of self medicating drinkers, and I don't know how he's going to refuse a drink or two and not be an outcast.

This guy cried right in front of me, not about the kid, but about how he was stuck in a rut because of him. What the fuck......

I have to go see this guy again later today, any solid advices on this guy's career advice would be helpful. I'm still going to get him the money, as this is how I make a living, but holy shit, in all my time I've never ran across such a confusing person.

Actually this guy has a sad story.

He suffers from a rare condition knows as Pneumoniae perfecta.

When he was young, his mother told him he was worthless and abandoned him at a hospital.

He grew up in an orphanage and was bullied for his looks but he always tried to stay positive.

He told himself that he would always believe in himself and achieve his dreams, no matter what others said. When he got older, I completely made this story up and you've wasted your time reading this.

[BigCyp]

It's never too late to start a career, i'm 30 and in Med school and loving every minute of it!

[oldgolds]

First off, why is he trying to get money for his son so that HE can can go to school?
He needs to find a place that does GEDs and see what he can do. If there there are HS drop outs in GED classes with kids he needs to figure out how they are able to go to class.

Also, steer him away from the business classes, try something in the med field, there is tons of support  jobs in that field.

Good advice...2 years schooling in the medical field and he can go anywhere and make decent money.

[disco_stu]

You are absolutely wrong. In fact if the client is legally entitled to it - he might very well find his azz in trouble if he denies the money.
I had one of my loan officers ask me a very similar question a few months back. He had a client that he felt was going to waste the money he was getting by refinancing - BUT the client was fully approved under DU.. Absolutely no way in hell we tell that client no. We can give subtle advice - but if you are not a CFP you cannot go too far.

you missed the bit where he said he is entitled to it for a certain purpose, but has advised he wont be using it for that purpose.

it is your ethical concern if u grant it knowing that its not going to be used the way intended. If he hadnt told him he was going to use it differently, then, well he isnt the wiser and can claim ignorance.

if he grants it knowingly, then he is complicit, and runs the risk of being liable. there is also a difference between doing the right thing, and doing it because the law says you can (or cant). Many times in law its been proven that even when the law states its ok, the person has a duty of care and conscious responsibility.

[El Diablo Blanco]

I heard Caliber fitness is hiring and the requirements for employment are pretty subpar.

[Jizzacked]

Apart from the fact that it's not. Easy yes, but doesn't pay decent money and every fucking Democrat voting, latte sipping 22yo hipster does it.

Now proper coding, yes. Unfortunately you need the aptitude for it and really stick to it to be successful. If you don't go home after work and code for fun, you probably won't get very far.

If I was him, I'd retrain to be an electrician or some trade. Yes, they'll all tell you that it's oversubscribed and the ass fell out of it, no money in it anymore, bla bla bla. Try getting one of these c'unts to rewire a room. They're booked out 2-3 weeks in advance. You work for yourself, no moody bitchy colleagues to deal with and work your own hours.

Yes... legit software engineering pays the bills for sure but there is a whole subset without the passion or the training that end up writing shit code for shit money.  I couldn't advise this guy to move forward on this path unless he had extreme ambition and talent.  Ageism is a real thing in this industry as well, and if he just started it up now for a better paycheck, that shit isn't going to end well.  Same thing honestly for his business degree aspirations... what is that really going to do?  Perhaps open entry level positions but not much more.

OP, be a professional and get this man whatever you possibly can - that's what you are being paid to do.  Don't let your personal feelings or judgements come into play.. he came to you for a service that you should provide regardless of your personal feelings.  I agree his direction in life may be misguided, but he is a grown man and can make his own decisions and path in life.