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No more voter disenfranchisement like we saw in 55% mccain country... where, in 2012, people stood in the rain for 6-7 hours in Lee County, Florida, the most in the nation.

Do you support this idea of "20 days to vote"?  Give 100% of Americans who can vote, the chance to vote?

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2015, 09:52:44 PM »
No more voter disenfranchisement like we saw in 55% mccain country... where, in 2012, people stood in the rain for 6-7 hours in Lee County, Florida, the most in the nation.

Do you support this idea of "20 days to vote"?  Give 100% of Americans who can vote, the chance to vote?


Repubs would like it if less people voted

Dems would like it if more people voted

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2015, 04:57:39 AM »
Why not 200 days?  20 days sounds excessive to me.  3 days, maximum.  If you can't make it to the polls in three days then you do not care about voting.  No one is that busy or undecided.

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2015, 05:07:56 AM »
Get your ass out of bed and get to the polling station in a timely matter. It's your civic duty.

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2015, 07:33:45 AM »
Get your ass out of bed and get to the polling station in a timely matter. It's your civic duty.

In Lee County, Florida, which is deep republican territory - many of the voting stations were inadequate.  It was a rainy day, and people had to wait in line for 6 to 7 hours to vote.

That goes way beyond "getting your ass outta bed" - that's an entire work day, standing in florida elements, just to vote.  And many of the people trying to vote are elderly, have small children, are small biz owners, etc.  Think about how many of these people have to give up because their boss won't give them 7 hours off to vote lol.  Or how many elderly people couldn't vote Romney because they can't stand in 82 degree air + rainstorms for six hours?

Google it.  Lee County was the worst voting lines in the nation.  Six to seven hours.  

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2015, 10:32:46 AM »
No more voter disenfranchisement like we saw in 55% mccain country... where, in 2012, people stood in the rain for 6-7 hours in Lee County, Florida, the most in the nation.

Do you support this idea of "20 days to vote"?  Give 100% of Americans who can vote, the chance to vote?


How original.

No.  Actually it's just a part of Hillary Clinton's campaign platform.  No surprise you liberals are all over it.

Hillary Clinton lays out sweeping voting rights vision
06/04/15
By Zachary Roth

In a major speech on voting rights Thursday, Hillary Clinton laid out a far-reaching vision for expanding access to the ballot box, and denounced Republican efforts to make voting harder.

Speaking at Texas Southern University in Houston, Clinton called for every American to be automatically registered to vote when they turn 18 unless they choose not to be. She backed a nationwide standard of at least 20 days of early voting. She urged Congress to pass legislation strengthening the Voting Rights Act, which was gravely weakened by a 2013 Supreme Court ruling. And she slammed restrictive voting laws imposed by the GOP in Texas, North Carolina, Ohio, and Wisconsin, which she said affect minorities and students in particular.

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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-early-voting-nationwide

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2015, 11:22:13 AM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, the Politics and Political Issues Board is not the right place to discuss ideas proposed by US Presidential Candidates

WTF were you thinking 240?

Why can't you be a  "positive contributor to the board" like our resident Mother Hen Beach Bum

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2015, 11:50:39 AM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, the Politics and Political Issues Board is not the right place to discuss ideas proposed by US Presidential Candidates

WTF were you thinking 240?

Why can't you be a  "positive contributor to the board" like our resident Mother Hen Beach Bum

LOL.

Is it just me or has Dos E taken his weird hypocrisy to a new level after his soulmate Soul Crusher left?

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2015, 12:01:25 PM »
People can't commit to a position on an issue until they see which party supports it.   Shocking. 

I heard rush shitting all over th idea today.  Of course. 

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2015, 12:10:50 PM »
People can't commit to a position on an issue until they see which party supports it.   Shocking. 

I heard rush shitting all over th idea today.  Of course. 

Repubs will shit on anything that increases the number of people who vote

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2015, 12:16:58 PM »
People can't commit to a position on an issue until they see which party supports it.   Shocking. 


Which is exactly why you support it.  Not shocking. 

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2015, 12:18:40 PM »
'Dividing Americans': Potential GOP rivals assail Clinton over fiery voting law speech
Published June 05, 2015
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Accusing her of "dividing Americans" and political pandering, several of Hillary Clinton's potential Republican rivals fired back Friday after the Democratic frontrunner accused them of trying to make it more difficult for Americans -- particularly minorities and young people -- to vote.

Clinton spoke Thursday at Texas Southern University, an historically black institution in Houston. In one of her most partisan speeches as a White House candidate, she directly criticized Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

She described them as members of a GOP vanguard that has made it more difficult for students to vote, cut the numbers of days set aside for early voting and demanded voter ID provisions.

In perhaps her most pointed line, she said: "We have a responsibility to say clearly and directly what's really going on in our country -- because what is happening is a sweeping effort to disempower and disenfranchise people of color, poor people, and young people from one end of our country to the other."

Ohio Gov. John Kasich, a Republican considering a presidential run, accused Clinton on Friday of "demagoguery."

"Don't be running around the country dividing Americans," he told Fox News.

Kasich's state is also on the other end of a related lawsuit filed in part by Clinton campaign lawyer Marc Elias.

That suit claims Ohio's voting restrictions are designed to suppress minority and young voters. It calls for halting a number of measures including laws that restrict the casting of absentee and provisional ballots and limit the times and locations for early voting -- such as abolishing an early voting period known as "Golden Week" in which voters could register and cast an in-person ballot the same day.

However, Ohio has an extensive early-voting period of nearly a month. And Kasich noted Clinton's state of New York doesn't even offer that kind of early-voting period.

"Don't come in and say we are trying to keep people from voting when her own state has less opportunity for voting," Kasich told Fox News. "And she is going to sue my state? That's just silly."

Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted also said Ohio is a "national leader in voter access," urging Clinton to "tell her attorneys" to drop the lawsuit.

The lawsuit is not officially connected to the Clinton campaign, though the candidate has since made voting laws a big issue in her run.

In Thursday's speech, she alleged, "Republicans are systematically and deliberately trying to stop millions of American citizens from voting." She also called for automatic voter registration for all Americans when they turn 18, unless they opt out, and for 20-day early voting in all states.

Directly challenging Republicans by name, which Clinton has largely avoided until now, she plunged into a partisan debate over voting rights that has roiled statehouses across the country. Democrats contend restricting voter access and registration purposely aims to suppress turnout among minority and low-income voters. Republicans say the voting changes are crucial to guard against voter fraud.

Under Walker, for example, Wisconsin requires proof of residency except for overseas and military voters. The state shortened the early voting period and increased residency requirements.

In a statement, Walker responded to the criticism leveled by the Democratic candidate: "Hillary Clinton's rejection of efforts to make it easier to vote and harder to cheat not only defies logic, but the will of the majority of Americans. Once again, Hillary Clinton's extreme views are far outside the mainstream."

Clinton said that in New Jersey, Christie had vetoed a bill to extend early voting. She said as Florida's governor, Bush had conducted a "deeply flawed" purge of eligible voters, by having the names of people who were mistakenly thought to be felons removed from voting rolls.

Perry, who announced his presidential campaign earlier Thursday, approved laws in Texas that discriminated against minority voters, Clinton said.

Christie, at a stop in New Hampshire Friday, said, "Secretary Clinton doesn't know the first thing about voting rights in New Jersey ... or in the other states that she attacked." He said she just wants "an opportunity to commit greater acts [of] voter fraud around the country."

Perry, speaking with Fox News on Friday morning, defended voter ID laws.

"When I got on the airline to come up here yesterday I had to show my photo ID. Now, Hillary Clinton may not have had to show a photo ID to get onto an airplane in a long time," he quipped. "The people of the state of Texas is who she's taking on. Because that was a law that was passed by the people of the state of Texas. She just went into my home state and dissed every person who supports having an identification to either get onto an airplane or to vote."

Perry declared his presidential campaign Thursday. Bush, Walker and Christie have not yet formally announced a 2016 bid, though Bush's announcement is set for June 15.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/05/dividing-americans-potential-gop-rivals-assail-clinton-over-fiery-voting-law/

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2015, 12:33:49 PM »
Which is exactly why you support it.  Not shocking. 

I support it because I like the idea of as many americans as possible being involved in the democratic process.

anyone who says "if you can't make it on election day, screw your vote" should have to stand in florida rainy day for 7 hours, then state their opinion.  Bunch of idiots pretending they love democracy, but in reality they only want people in certain districts to vote.

Seven hours to vote.  Seven hours in line.  Think about that.  Stop putting politics, stop assigning it to a party.  Make it about if you want all legal americans to be able to vote, or if you're okay with a few million grannies leaving because they cannot stand 6-7 hours on their feet in the rain. 

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2015, 12:35:19 PM »
threads like this remind me why the republican party keeps fucking failing at national elections.  Because when everyone turns out to vote - including the casual voters who ignore midterms - most people are generally sick of the bullshit about holding people down.  "so what if millions of americans can't vote because of 7 hour lines" is a fucking communist statement, and obviously the thinking of someone who anally fingers sheep at the petting zoo.

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2015, 12:46:26 PM »
I support it because I like the idea of as many americans as possible being involved in the democratic process.

anyone who says "if you can't make it on election day, screw your vote" should have to stand in florida rainy day for 7 hours, then state their opinion.  Bunch of idiots pretending they love democracy, but in reality they only want people in certain districts to vote.

Seven hours to vote.  Seven hours in line.  Think about that.  Stop putting politics, stop assigning it to a party.  Make it about if you want all legal americans to be able to vote, or if you're okay with a few million grannies leaving because they cannot stand 6-7 hours on their feet in the rain. 

You support it because Hillary supports it. 

In any event, it's a dumb idea.  It's cost prohibitive and unnecessary.  It is something that should be left to the states. 

Also, there are numerous ways for people to vote without standing in line, including early voting and absentee ballot voting.  This is nothing more than a cheap political ploy that will appeal to a lot of lot of Hillary's liberal supporters.

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2015, 12:49:05 PM »
threads like this remind me why the republican party keeps fucking failing at national elections.  Because when everyone turns out to vote - including the casual voters who ignore midterms - most people are generally sick of the bullshit about holding people down.  "so what if millions of americans can't vote because of 7 hour lines" is a fucking communist statement, and obviously the thinking of someone who anally fingers sheep at the petting zoo.

It's a state issue.

If you don't like waiting 7 hours in line, move out of White Trash Florida or elect state officials who will address the issue.

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2015, 12:53:55 PM »
It's a state issue.

If you don't like waiting 7 hours in line, move out of White Trash Florida or elect state officials who will address the issue.

Or vote early or use an absentee ballot and vote from the comfort of your home.

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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2015, 09:16:31 AM »

This is a great idea.  I missed once because my job sent me out of town unexpectedly shortly before voting day.  It was too late to submit for an absentee ballot.


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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2015, 09:23:15 AM »
it's a stupid idea. Just gonna cost more tax payers money to run that shit for something that won't change the outcome anyway.
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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2015, 09:33:41 AM »
it's a stupid idea. Just gonna cost more tax payers money to run that shit for something that won't change the outcome anyway.



Yeah, counting my vote 10 days earlier than what they would've counted it is going to cost money.  ::)

Where I vote it's electronic anyway.  I doubt you can show any substantial increase in cost.


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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2015, 09:41:08 AM »


Yeah, counting my vote 10 days earlier than what they would've counted it is going to cost money.  ::)

Where I vote it's electronic anyway.  I doubt you can show any substantial increase in cost.



I am just guessing, no idea if exactly, but count all the polling stations accross the whole US and I wonder how much it would cost? Worth it really???
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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2015, 10:44:38 AM »
I am just guessing, no idea if exactly, but count all the polling stations accross the whole US and I wonder how much it would cost? Worth it really???

they would only have early polling at 1-2 locations in each city.  Right now, they do it for 3-5 days in some cities, and people line up for hours to vote early.

Just extending it to 15-20 days of early voting woudn't be that much of a cost.  We aren't talking about opening 100 polling locations for 20 days, just one or two in each area, as they already do.


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Re: 20 days of early voting in all 50 states - what do you think?
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2015, 11:00:42 AM »
LOL.

Is it just me or has Dos E taken his weird hypocrisy to a new level after his soulmate Soul Crusher left?

HAHAHA.  You STALKER!!

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