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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #100 on: June 24, 2015, 05:04:37 PM »
The data shown on these charts (from NOAA) has been "adjusted", that is purposefully changed from the original data, the purpose of which is to show more global warming than there actually is.  More fraud and deception.
Dr. Easterbrook explains how the data has been modified over the years starting about 13.30 into this video



"adjusted" is a statistical term. This guy is a knob...

the adjustment is made because of known biases in measurement, like ubanization, instrument changes, sun exposure etc. this is a agreed upon method to detect "real" changes, with biases removed. So if one station reads incredible for weeks, or something odd occurred like a station move the data is removed, it's "adjusted".

the raw data is there for everyone to see, you can choose to "adjust" the data. The only concern is the algorithms used are known only to NOAA...

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #101 on: June 24, 2015, 05:06:34 PM »
so..based on your research and investigations,

your personal opinion is that the *climate change* phenomena is all a hoax?


If you mean by *climate change* the proposition put forward by Al Gore, the UN and the IPCC as well as other left leaning individuals and organizations that claims the earth is experiencing unprecedented global warming of the earth, caused by increasing CO2 as the result of man's burning of fossil fuels, then yes,  I am of the opinion that it is probably the worst and most dangerous fraud/scam perpetrated upon the citizens of this planet.

The climate is changing.  It has always been changing and always will keep on changing.  It's changing again right now as we move into a multi-decade era of global cooling.   There are some scientists that believe we are headed towards a mini ice age and I think this is possible.

Watch Dr. Ball's video on the Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science.

Ultimately,  climate change is driven by the sun.  Watch this video of Dr. John Casey, The Sun Dictates Climate Change




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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #102 on: June 24, 2015, 05:11:53 PM »
I for one am glad we have several doctoral level, astrophysicists on this board, who can educate us on these pressing matters.  Without getbig's wealth of knowledge, I don't think I could ever truly understand the world's most complicated subjects.   :D

...as if any getbigger , would have a legit doctorate in some area of physics  ;)
What's the odds of that being true?

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #103 on: June 24, 2015, 05:17:04 PM »
...as if any getbigger , would have a legit doctorate in some area of physics  ;)
What's the odds of that being true?

the odds of a getbigger having a legit doctorate in physics are about the same as Al Gore and Necrosis being right.

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #104 on: June 24, 2015, 05:37:46 PM »
the odds of a getbigger having a legit doctorate in physics are about the same as Al Gore and Necrosis being right.

 ;)  you'd be surprised

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #105 on: June 24, 2015, 05:51:03 PM »

If you mean by *climate change* the proposition put forward by Al Gore, the UN and the IPCC as well as other left leaning individuals and organizations that claims the earth is experiencing unprecedented global warming of the earth, caused by increasing CO2 as the result of man's burning of fossil fuels, then yes,  I am of the opinion that it is probably the worst and most dangerous fraud/scam perpetrated upon the citizens of this planet.

The climate is changing.  It has always been changing and always will keep on changing.  It's changing again right now as we move into a multi-decade era of global cooling.   There are some scientists that believe we are headed towards a mini ice age and I think this is possible.

Watch Dr. Ball's video on the Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science.

Ultimately,  climate change is driven by the sun.  Watch this video of Dr. John Casey, The Sun Dictates Climate Change





So you feel it's basically is a scam perpetuated via leftist ideologies.

Do you believe the US Navy is a leftist organisation?

If so how do you arrive at this conclusion?
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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #106 on: June 24, 2015, 05:53:36 PM »
So you feel it's basically is a scam perpetuated a leftist ideologies.

Do you believe the US Navy is a leftist organisation?

If so how do you arrive at this conclusion?

I don't know much about atmospheric science or physics, but I think climate changes due to CO2 is a legit concern for humanity.

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #107 on: June 24, 2015, 06:02:52 PM »
I don't know much about atmospheric science or physics, but I think climate changes due to CO2 is a legit concern for humanity.

the "debate" has been over for a very long time.

you were in the Navy right?

so maybe you're biased
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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #108 on: June 24, 2015, 07:43:50 PM »
the "debate" has been over for a very long time.

you were in the Navy right?

so maybe you're biased

I wasn't in the Navy, but always had a desire to sleep  near a lot of seamen.

What kind of fag studies atmospheric physics?!

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #109 on: June 26, 2015, 07:34:55 AM »
The data shown on these charts (from NOAA) has been "adjusted", that is purposefully changed from the original data, the purpose of which is to show more global warming than there actually is.  More fraud and deception.
Dr. Easterbrook explains how the data has been modified over the years starting about 13.30 into this video



So, you are saying that climate hasn't change at all, and all the charts are manipulated, because this Dr say so? Why in the name of god it goes always like this: There is tens of thousands well respected scientist all over the world saying that climate is changing, but they all are wrong because some populist morons claim it isn't true?  Why don't you "follow the money" in this conspiracy? Who will benefit and who has to pay tons of money, if all the industries in the USA has to clean their waste? There is two agendas clearly visible in this matter. One want to prevent global warming because it will kill human kind from this planet, and another which want to keep poisoning air because they are earning ridiculously big money if they keep things as they are. And why you think that this is some kind of American problem? There is scientist all over the world who has make just same conclusions about the data which they have been gathering without anything to do with NASA. In Finland people is planting grapes to start the wine industry up north first time in the millineum, so something has changed already. At the end of the decade we have palm trees in Helsinki and we can grow some bananas in our garden  ;D

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #110 on: June 26, 2015, 08:32:44 AM »
Not saying that at all.   Neither are all the respected scientists in the videos I have posted links to.  Climate is always changing.  It always has and it always will.   If you will take the time to watch some of these videos you will see exactly what they are saying. 

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #111 on: June 26, 2015, 09:15:07 AM »
Not saying that at all.   Neither are all the respected scientists in the videos I have posted links to.  Climate is always changing.  It always has and it always will.   If you will take the time to watch some of these videos you will see exactly what they are saying. 

We know why the climate changes, you are acting as if it's some unknown fucking cycle that cannot be understood.

It's like saying bodyweight changes, always has, therefore no deviation is a problem. Well, say you yo yo 10-15 pounds for years then jump 50 lbs, something happened, was it magic? no it was the variables that contribute to weight, like activity level, calorie intake. We can isolate these factors just like we can in the climate, we measure the sun's output, we know the ocean currents, major weather patterns/forces, the tilt of the earth, our position in orbit everything.

When no other variable changes expect one (in this case CO2) and we see acidification of the ocean (increased co2, grade 2 science), rising sea levels, worsening storms (more heat means more energy in the atmosphere) etc.. it's pretty fucking clear, only someone with a vested interest could argue otherwise. it's basic fucking science, basic.

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #112 on: June 26, 2015, 10:19:22 AM »
coach, the data that YOU posted showing temp changes right after 9/11 due to the banning of flights... that was the single most convincing piece of ACTUAL evidence that man influences temperature.

WHy did you introduce that?   Did you read it and realize what it said?

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #113 on: June 26, 2015, 12:18:15 PM »

If you mean by *climate change* the proposition put forward by Al Gore, the UN and the IPCC as well as other left leaning individuals and organizations that claims the earth is experiencing unprecedented global warming of the earth, caused by increasing CO2 as the result of man's burning of fossil fuels, then yes,  I am of the opinion that it is probably the worst and most dangerous fraud/scam perpetrated upon the citizens of this planet.

The climate is changing.  It has always been changing and always will keep on changing.  It's changing again right now as we move into a multi-decade era of global cooling.   There are some scientists that believe we are headed towards a mini ice age and I think this is possible.

Watch Dr. Ball's video on the Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science.

Ultimately,  climate change is driven by the sun.  Watch this video of Dr. John Casey, The Sun Dictates Climate Change





You've got to be joking... John Casey has no credentials in the climate science community, he's not a climate scientist, he holds a degree in Management from some shit university.  Also NONE of his or his  companies work, who seems to be a mouthpiece for oil companies, has been published or PEER REVIEWED.

So basically anything coming out of his mouth is about as credible as going to a two year old for advice on ICBM trajectory systems.

If you want to have a credible discussion, at least use someone who knows what the fuck they are talking about and not some schill for corporations.

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #114 on: June 26, 2015, 12:53:51 PM »
You've got to be joking... John Casey has no credentials in the climate science community, he's not a climate scientist, he holds a degree in Management from some shit university.  Also NONE of his or his  companies work, who seems to be a mouthpiece for oil companies, has been published or PEER REVIEWED.

So basically anything coming out of his mouth is about as credible as going to a two year old for advice on ICBM trajectory systems.

If you want to have a credible discussion, at least use someone who knows what the fuck they are talking about and not some schill for corporations.

No one disputes the sun has a role, solar output is down, yet temp up? I love the simple fucking answers, it's the sun and only the sun.

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #115 on: June 26, 2015, 01:53:31 PM »
No one disputes the sun has a role, solar output is down, yet temp up? I love the simple fucking answers, it's the sun and only the sun.

Right, just like no one disputes the fact that climate science is extremely complicated, but it's still science it gives us a solid baseline of understanding of how our universe works.  The science clearly shows that human beings are causing the earths climate to break out of the normal climate cycle.

I was once on the side of the doubters and for a long time I didn't believe it.  Instead of listening to the talking heads, the politicians (who btw, shouldn't be commenting on science at all, few of them are actual scientists and most are lawyers who couldn't pass a basic chemistry course in high school), just go look at the data.  The data doesn't lie.

I recommend watching a great documentary called "Merchants of Doubt" which touches heavily on the issue of schills who are puppets of the tobacco, oil, chemical and anti-climate institutions who's sole purpose is to sow misinformation and confusion into these subjects.  It took 50 years for big tobacco to finally admit that smoking causes cancer when they knew for a fact through their own internal scientific findings back in the 60's that it did.  It's a great doco and if you put your personal and political biases aside for an hour to watch you'll realize you've been duped.

There's also the problem of people who warp the data on both sides of the spectrum to further their agenda.  It's important that anyone apply basic critical thinking skills to what they are reading or being told.  Ask why is this person saying what they are saying? Who do they work for?  What agenda if any does their employer or entity who funds them have?

You can google most of these people who go on talk shows who hold opposing views to climate change and easily find out who they work for, what their credentials are if any, and what their past employment has been.  All of these things should be considered when assessing the truth.

The sad thing is the majority of you will go on believing what you believe because the truth is too scary to face.  The truth means we have to change the way we live and do things, and for most, that's too big of a possibility to contemplate.

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #116 on: June 26, 2015, 04:33:10 PM »
You've got to be joking... John Casey has no credentials in the climate science community, he's not a climate scientist, he holds a degree in Management from some shit university.  Also NONE of his or his  companies work, who seems to be a mouthpiece for oil companies, has been published or PEER REVIEWED.

So basically anything coming out of his mouth is about as credible as going to a two year old for advice on ICBM trajectory systems.

If you want to have a credible discussion, at least use someone who knows what the fuck they are talking about and not some schill for corporations.

It's a forum debate and anyone is welcome to put in their 2 cents.
Plus this is the get big forum.
What's the chance some get bigger has a graduate degree is a physics related area, LOL ;)

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #117 on: June 26, 2015, 05:59:49 PM »

 In Finland people is planting grapes to start the wine industry up north first time in the millineum, so something has changed already. At the end of the decade we have palm trees in Helsinki and we can grow some bananas in our garden  ;D


Yeah right  ;D, but still no Mangos & nude beaches in Mantula land  8)

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #118 on: June 26, 2015, 11:46:02 PM »
It's a forum debate and anyone is welcome to put in their 2 cents.
Plus this is the get big forum.
What's the chance some get bigger has a graduate degree is a physics related area, LOL ;)

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Re: 10 year cooling trend
« Reply #119 on: June 27, 2015, 01:28:53 AM »
Plus this is the get big forum.
What's the chance some get bigger has a graduate degree is a physics related area, LOL ;)

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