David Kaye Pro Natural

[Wiggs]

I've come to a conclusion that all the talent we've been looking for that's not in the IFBB they are other places because they didn't want to risk their health or it's just not worth it.  If you had guys like Ulisses Jr. Doug Miller, Simeon Panda and David Kay in the IFBB, it'd make the IFBB much better.  There other talent out there that's just as good and better.  It's time to move this "sport" in a different direction. The public is demanding it.  No more Ramys and Ronnies.

[Tarantula157]

There's always one or two two natties that show up and are bewildered by the state of the "natural" competition.

Most of the contestants at the amateur "natty" competitions are true "naturals".At the so called "pro" level it's the opposite.

[El Diablo Blanco]

If some of these "naturals" were truly natural then they'd be the greatest of all time if they took drugs. 

[Van_Bilderass]

There is IMO a connection between GH and ripped glutes. Now everyone has ripped glutes, even when the rest of the body isn't all that sliced. Rich Gaspari was a freak because of his ripped glutes, it was just rare then, even though they dieted hard, harder than today, were very lean, used thyroids, androgens etc.

[falco]

These Myostatin Deficient freaks are really popping out of the woodwork now.