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Walter Sobchak

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2015, 03:34:09 PM »
We get it. You don't believe it so you're making a mockery of it. Ha ha funny.  Take the most poorly written thing you can find and us it as an example to discredit what it is you don't agree with it. You sneaky guy.

Don't you remember your theory on "distilled water only", that you supported with articles written by the biggest quack on the planet?

Jesus Christ you are a know nothing fool.

A real shitbag of stupidity.

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2015, 03:47:18 PM »
How can it be verified?

You'd have to ask the proponents of this theory. The medical community hasn't found a way, thus it remains a fake disease.

Wiki sums it up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_fatigue

Wiggs called it pre-addison's. I guess linking it with a real but rare disease makes it sound more legit.

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2015, 03:52:46 PM »
Wiggs,

If you mean to say that Palumbo might be suffering from Addison's Disease (Adrenal insufficiency), then yes, that is a real condition.

Typical symptoms include:

Muscle weakness and fatigue
Weight loss and decreased appetite
Darkening of your skin (hyperpigmentation)
Low blood pressure, even fainting
Salt craving
Low blood sugar (hypoglycemia)
Nausea, diarrhea or vomiting
Muscle or joint pains
Irritability
Depression
Body hair loss or sexual dysfunction in women

The adrenal glands have two parts to their structure. The medulla (at the very center of the gland) produces chemicals like epinephrine and norepinephrine, which are necessary for activation of adrenergic receptors like Alpha1, Alpha2, Beta1, Beta2 & Dopamine receptors (receptors which are crucial to the fight or flight response). The other structural part of the adrenal glands is the outer covering, which is known as the cortex. The cortex produces glucocorticoids, mineralocorticoids and male sex hormones (These hormones individually control everything from inflammation, energy consumption, blood pressure, electrolyte balance and sexual development).

Damage to the pituitary gland can cause Adrenal Insufficiency. Maybe Palumbo caused some damage to his hypothalamic-pituitary-dysfunction, which in turn has allowed for him to develop Adrenal Insufficiency. It's hard to say.

There are tests to check for Adrenal Insufficiency.

Blood test. Measuring your blood levels of sodium, potassium, cortisol and ACTH gives your doctor an initial indication of whether adrenal insufficiency may be causing your signs and symptoms. A blood test can also measure antibodies associated with autoimmune Addison's disease.

ACTH stimulation test. This test involves measuring the level of cortisol in your blood before and after an injection of synthetic ACTH. ACTH signals your adrenal glands to produce cortisol. If your adrenal glands are damaged, the ACTH stimulation test shows that your output of cortisol in response to synthetic ACTH is limited or nonexistent.

Insulin-induced hypoglycemia test. Occasionally, doctors suggest this test if pituitary disease is a possible cause of adrenal insufficiency (secondary adrenal insufficiency). The test involves checking your blood sugar (blood glucose) and cortisol levels at various intervals after an injection of insulin. In healthy people, glucose levels fall and cortisol levels increase.

Imaging tests. Your doctor may have you undergo a computerized tomography (CT) scan of your abdomen to check the size of your adrenal glands and look for other abnormalities that may give insight to the cause of the adrenal insufficiency. Your doctor may also suggest a MRI scan of your pituitary gland if testing indicates you might have secondary adrenal insufficiency.

If any of you are interested in a little more reading behind the subject, feel free to check out The Mayo Clinic's resources at this link: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/addisons-disease/basics/definition/con-20021340

I'm sure Palumbo has it all covered.

"1"

P.S. If you meant to say that Adrenal Fatigue on its own is a medical condition, then that would not be true, as the actual medical diagnosis does not exist.

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2015, 03:57:50 PM »
Wiggs,

If you mean to say that Palumbo might be suffering from Addison's Disease (Adrenal insufficiency), then yes, that is a real condition.


"1"

Nah, he knows Addison's is real but there's a lot of talk about "adrenal fatigue" by those who believe in alternative medicine on bodybuilding forums. And the solution is obviously some natural supplements such as egg yolk extracts :)

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2015, 04:00:32 PM »
Thanks guys.
Been dealing with very bad muscular recovery from workouts. Done a extensive blood work and some abdominal scans, but it's all 100%.
The doctor believes that anxiety might be draining me out.

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2015, 04:04:29 PM »
Nah, he knows Addison's is real but there's a lot of talk about "adrenal fatigue" by those who believe in alternative medicine on bodybuilding forums. And the solution is obviously some natural supplements such as egg yolk extracts :)

Although he hasn't said so, I can't imagine any nursing school teaching him that. Those schools tend to be very well structured and follow a standard curriculum. Maybe he read it online or something.

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2015, 07:16:43 PM »
interesting thread.

seems like there's a lot of work to be done in this area.  so many people (including myself) suspect there's something wrong after noticing drastic changes in energy, muscle tissue, etc. over time, but the doctors (generally speaking) are at a loss...

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2015, 09:21:25 PM »
Great thread wiggs. There's so much that the science and medical community does not know especially in regards to intense training and advanced performance enhancement drugs use over time

Great thread! P

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2015, 09:43:36 PM »
I could be wrong but I doubt that this book will cover anything remotely close to what we know as Palumboism.

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2015, 06:59:29 AM »
There is no such thing as adrenal fatigue

Correct sir. There is adrenal insufficency (Addisonian crisis) but your adrenals never fatigue, (otherwise fight or flight from the PNS, would render you dead no bronchdialtion for lung ventilation) Palumbo's problem is rooted to high cholesterol intake.

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2015, 07:07:57 AM »
Correct sir. There is adrenal insufficency (Addisonian crisis) but your adrenals never fatigue, (otherwise fight or flight from the PNS, would render you dead no bronchdialtion for lung ventilation) Palumbo's problem is rooted to high cholesterol intake.
:o :o

Please elaborate

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #61 on: October 25, 2015, 12:51:08 PM »
We get it. You don't believe it so you're making a mockery of it. Ha ha funny.  Take the most poorly written thing you can find and us it as an example to discredit what it is you don't agree with it. You sneaky guy.

so is adrenal fatigue a medical term or is it some half baked idea some bro science website has concocted?

my money is on the latter. if it is, then i call total BS.


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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #62 on: October 25, 2015, 12:56:07 PM »
http://www.hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue

ah. so it is bro science.

no such thing as adrenal fatigue. luckily for us, it needs global, peer review, double blind test and acceptance before conditions and treatments are approved, to treat things like flu, cancer, STDs etc.

and at the same time keeping BS pseudo science honest.

nothing to see here. "palumboism" is not "adrenal fatigue".




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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #63 on: October 25, 2015, 01:02:16 PM »
palumbo looks like he has been taking hiv drugs

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #64 on: October 25, 2015, 06:10:12 PM »
No, the atrophied limbs is due to cervical spinal stenosis. Heavy lifting over many years can cause this as well as being born with it. I had surgery to remove 3 discs in my neck that were pinching my spinal cord. That's when I was diagnosed with the stenosis, or narrowing of the spinal canal. My triceps and outer quads are both noticeably smaller than they were say 5 years ago. And body weight and strength are the same in that span. Tommywishbone can add to this as he has the same condition.

As far as the big bellies, who knows. I'd say visceral fat from insulin abuse for years on end.

I agree with this theory on both counts, fatty liver and enlarged spleens from insulin and gear use, abdominal bloat from force feeding and muscle fascia stretching from overloading your stomach.

Its reversible but only to an extent and depending on the abuse. 

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #65 on: October 26, 2015, 08:36:30 AM »
It couldn't be the copious amounts of drugs causing the problem. Never.  ::)
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2015, 02:00:55 PM »
palumbo looks like he has been taking hiv drugs

Yes! The stomach and withered limbs along with the facial features. Yes. You nailed it