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NickEdge779

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Heart Health While on AAS?
« on: March 02, 2016, 08:12:11 AM »
What is the best way to maintain a healthy heart and prevent thickening of the heart muscle? I feel like cardio would help keep your blood pressure down, but I know that runners typically have larger than average sized hearts, so I'm not sure if cardio is the best strategy to keep your heart from becoming large/unhealthy. Any good OTC supplements as well?

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Re: Heart Health While on AAS?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2016, 08:22:50 AM »
The only thing i know about hearts is that a good friend of mine is going under his third cardiac catheterism today. This time doctors are going to try enter by his neck instead of his groin, to see if it works. Either that or a bypass. He will be 40 this year. And yes AAS didn't help.

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Re: Heart Health While on AAS?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2016, 09:54:24 AM »
What is the best way to maintain a healthy heart and prevent thickening of the heart muscle? I feel like cardio would help keep your blood pressure down, but I know that runners typically have larger than average sized hearts, so I'm not sure if cardio is the best strategy to keep your heart from becoming large/unhealthy. Any good OTC supplements as well?

Just make sure your fats come from mono/poly sources, i eat eggwhites with peanut butter and mix extra virgin olive oil into non fat yogurt, supplement the regular regiment of cod liver oil, coq10 and nessecary multivits etc.

All luck of the draw eitherway, a relative of mine has been competing and using since his teens and is now in his 50's and still competing, orals, oils, slin, gh, every type of fat burner bar dnp, got his recent check up and he had one liver enzyme slightly higher than normal coming off a show where he was running tren,mast,prop every day 10iu hgh every day and at least 30 units of insulin a day minimum.

Other end of the spectrum a friend of mine just got diagnosed with high cholesterol and has been prescribed statins before 25, his father had a quad bypass in his early 40's and his grandfather died of a heart attack around the same age.

Avoid rec drugs since they compound problems for zero gain but there's nothing anyone can say to me at this point to deter me from steroids, always take precautions by all means but seriously the health concerns are way fucking over blown, genetics are the biggest factor by far and some of us just arent destined for a long life.

Also heart hypertrophy is only detrimental if its actively causing reduced function which you can check with an echocardiogram, everyone who lifts seriously has this to some degree and it's not life threatening in its self, the worst factor contributing to heart failiure is just being too fucking heavy and is a common symptom of obesity.

Long story short, don't worry so much, give your body a rest, be mindful of your diet, don't expect to maintain 300lbs into your 50's unless you want to wind up in a big coffin.



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Re: Heart Health While on AAS?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2016, 03:28:16 PM »
^ very good advice.  just reiterate the focus on healthy fats and keeping porcessed carbs out of the diet.  Cocunut oil, red palm oil, olive oil, nuts, wild caught salmon, grass fed beef, free range eggs, wild game, high quality fish oil (carlsons).   Keep inflammation to a minimum.  Supplement with ubiquinol and curcumin.



Lp-PLA2 is a specific marker of vascular inflammation associated with atherosclerosis.  This is a very cheap and easy blood test you can get from any of the online sites.  You want your Lp-PLA2 score as low as you can get it and diet is a huge factor

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Re: Heart Health While on AAS?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2016, 01:20:45 AM »
It really is all genetics when it comes to health problems in general, but for the heart I would say eat as clean as possible all year round and keep your steroid dosages as low as possible. You could try supplements like coq10,garlic extract, red yeast, L arganine, fish oil, and many others known for heart health. Also stay away from steroids that wreck your lipids and monitor your cholesterol through out the year through blood tests.

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Re: Heart Health While on AAS?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2016, 09:25:11 AM »
How much are bloods?
I just got mine a few weeks ago and I remember seeing the bill was like $400 something I paid $80 with my insurance.   

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Re: Heart Health While on AAS?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2016, 11:09:33 AM »
Privatemdlabs is like $66 for testosterone/estrogen I forgot how much the cholesterol test is.

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Re: Heart Health While on AAS?
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2016, 06:17:38 AM »
I agree with all of the above posts. One thing that wasn't mentioned was maintaining a healthy hematocrit level. If it's too high you will need to donate blood every 2-3 months to keep it from Getting too elevated.. High hematocrit level can contribute to cardiovascular disease and strokes. i don't know how good your insurance is but if you were concerned you can get a full cardiac workup every few years (stress test, holter monitor, ultra sound, ekg). That would be playing it safe