The myth of long esters taking a long time to work

[equipoise]

I remember doing some research before my first cycle and a lot of people were saying that it will take about 4-5 weeks before you can feel the AAS kicking in, assuming you're doing 500mg test e a week. At that time I didn't know my body or response to AAS very well and it did seem like it took a few weeks before I was visibly blown up.

However, nowadays, I know my body a lot better, and I can honestly say that even long esters like test e kick in quite fast. For me , I've noticed that after one shot of 250mg test e I notice slightly increased strength a couple of days after, plus the slight increase in aggression. By end of first week I'm slightly thicker overall (of course not major gains but noticeable to me). Of course the gains increase over time as you use for more weeks but I honestly think that people who say that long esters take weeks to kick in are incorrect. If I was taking 500mg of test a week I would definitely be able to notice gains  by middle of week 2 max. Even if no muscle is gained and it's all water retention I don't understand how people can not feel the increased water retention within the first couple of weeks

[pestosterone]

My first cycle was sustanon from Genezatec labs I was chicken shit so one shot a week 350 350 500 500 500 then the 6th week I was like wtf? because I had used pro hormones and all this test did was make me horny so I did 3 shots the 6th week was over a gram and that week I felt it and my nipples burnt had to take nolva to stop it.
But like u say now with more experience i can tell any change in a few days besides deca It's a slow one still

[sceagacros]

I too find evidence of long esters "working" within 24-48 hours - I've  tended to keep that finding  to myself for the most part to avoid the inevitable bro wisdom smack down. This thread validates my experience, thank you.

[Jizmo]

I too find evidence of long esters "working" within 24-48 hours - I've  tended to keep that finding  to myself for the most part to avoid the inevitable bro wisdom smack down. This thread validates my experience, thank you.

test E peaks within hours, there are clinical studies on that
the difference is how long the hormone stays active.

[Qwert II]

Bro science at it's finest.

Dude, EQ doesn't even start working until week 6.

Dude, Deca takes a month to kick in.

Any drug that takes WEEKS for it to work won't ever be introduced to use.

The internets, where bro science rules supreme. 

[youandme]

Bro science at it's finest.

Dude, EQ doesn't even start working until week 6.

Dude, Deca takes a month to kick in.

Any drug that takes WEEKS for it to work won't ever be introduced to use.

The internets, where bro science rules supreme. 

I think those times are when the "sweet spot" kicks in. 

[Qwert II]

I think those times are when the "sweet spot" kicks in. 

Yes, the proverbial 'sweet spot'.

Dude, a gram of test is the sweet spot.

Dude, 20mg anavar a day is the sweet spot.

[Jizmo]

I think those times are when the "sweet spot" kicks in. 

its the time people start seeing results.
if you inject 500mg test once a week then youre gonna have significantly elevated test levels a few hours after your first shot.
obviously you wont have built any muscle at that time.

[equipoise]

Yes, the proverbial 'sweet spot'.

Dude, a gram of test is the sweet spot.

Dude, 20mg anavar a day is the sweet spot.

The sweet spot is when you get decent gains with minimal side effects

[chokeslam]

Long esters are felt in my system a day or two after and then become more pronounced.

When I pin short esters of test and tren, I wake up the next day visibly more shredded. Some people have pointed to certain studies and talk about half-lives and this and that, but I can take pictures and feel it physically. I'm going to go with what I know over conjecture any day.

FWIW, with long esters I'll put them usually every other day or every two days. But when I start them, I'll pin ED for a couple days, day off, ED, and then switch to EOD or a few times a week. You want front-loading and faster results? There you go... just pin a couple extra times at the start and you're golden. No need to complicate anything.

[Marlo Stanfield]

I remember doing some research before my first cycle and a lot of people were saying that it will take about 4-5 weeks before you can feel the AAS kicking in, assuming you're doing 500mg test e a week. At that time I didn't know my body or response to AAS very well and it did seem like it took a few weeks before I was visibly blown up.

However, nowadays, I know my body a lot better, and I can honestly say that even long esters like test e kick in quite fast. For me , I've noticed that after one shot of 250mg test e I notice slightly increased strength a couple of days after, plus the slight increase in aggression. By end of first week I'm slightly thicker overall (of course not major gains but noticeable to me). Of course the gains increase over time as you use for more weeks but I honestly think that people who say that long esters take weeks to kick in are incorrect. If I was taking 500mg of test a week I would definitely be able to notice gains  by middle of week 2 max. Even if no muscle is gained and it's all water retention I don't understand how people can not feel the increased water retention within the first couple of weeks

Any ester that you take (cyp,enth,prop) will give your levels a spike, that goes without saying... HOW MUCH of aspike is where they differ. For example lest say you take 200mg test E and your buddy takes 200 mg test prop. Your buddy will get a spike in his test levels, and lets say all 200mg of the test contributes to that spike, so he gets a much bigger spike but lasts only a day.

You on the other hand, lets say only 50mg of that test contributes to the initial spike, and the rest of the 150 mg will be utilized to keep your levels up for teh next 4-6 days.

I think many people are under the assumption that Enth and Cyp dont give you a spike, thats wrong. They DO give you a spike, just not high peak and valley compard to prop