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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #100 on: June 29, 2016, 06:02:45 PM »

When it comes to pedophilia, it has always been a despicable "mess", so I disagree with the idea that the mess is something new as you imply by using the word 'now'.  Whether or not pedophilia is a sexual orientation, is mute. In my book, it is horrible and disgusting no matter how it is categorized. I have zero tolerance when it comes to child molesters. The crime they commit ruins lives in ways that are worse than death because the memory of that experience stays with most folks for a lifetime.

Most people like me (whatever you think this means) do not accept pedophiles. Are you aware that pedophiles are more often 'straight' than they are gay or bisexual?






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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #101 on: June 29, 2016, 06:19:08 PM »
I thought we banned this baby-rape talk with Pellius. Why is it fair game again?

Delete this filthy shit, folks.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #102 on: June 29, 2016, 06:46:00 PM »
I thought we banned this baby-rape talk with Pellius. Why is it fair game again?

Delete this filthy shit, folks.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #103 on: June 29, 2016, 06:49:00 PM »
I thought only davinci got the axe... pellius too ???

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #104 on: June 29, 2016, 06:53:30 PM »
I thought only davinci got the axe... pellius too ???

No axe, far as I know. We just weren't supposed to mention his kinks and such.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #105 on: July 01, 2016, 02:07:21 PM »





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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #106 on: July 02, 2016, 03:33:05 AM »
Knew what? My nerves are made of steel.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #107 on: July 02, 2016, 04:04:07 AM »
At what age is pedophilia not pedophilia?  In some countries puberty is the age but of course a young 12 year old is not ready.  But I remember when I was 13 and 14.  Some of these chicks were hornier than shit.  I would get my dick sucked and fingerbang all sorts of chicks in 8th and 9th grade.

a couple weeks back I see this chick in the distance.  About 5' 9" knee high boots, short black skirt, tight 3/4 length tank top on, long blonde hair, nice tits.  I was like HOLY FUCK!  I thought she was about 20.  Turns out she was 13.  WTF!  Why does a 13 year old look like she's in her 20's?  She can easily fool any dude into fucking her by saying she's 18-21 and they wouldn't know.

Apparently the average age for girls to hit puberty has gone down in the last couple decades.  Mostly from chemicals in food.  I think it used to be 13 and now they say 11.  In Mexico is 10.  This world is fucked.
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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #108 on: July 02, 2016, 08:39:23 AM »
 My stepmom is a prison psychologist and specifically works with the sex offenders.  She seems to support such nonsensical, unscientific, and morally deranged hypotheses regarding these perverts.   She constantly talks about the sob stories these guys give her and how life circumstances force them into making horrific choices such as raping and murdering children.  We actually had an argument just last night because she unbelievably thinks that in most cases the victims (talking 10-15 year olds here) failed to report sexual abuse because on some level they ENJOY it?!?  :- ???

 I would expect some of these dirtbags to use that as a sick justification for their actions but to hear her come out of her mouth multiple times with this theory is really disappointing.  Especially when you're dealing with older males raping younger males.  Some young boy who has never had a sexual experience with anyone of any gender and is forced into a sexual assault by a male pervert  is more than likely emotionally and intellectually scarred for life.  It could change his sexuality, could change his outlook on normal relationships and completely interfere with his ability to ever have a healthy relationship.

I can understand a guy in his 20s being attracted to a 17 or 18-year-old High school cheerleader type, and in my state age of consent is 16 so there is really no excuse for not being able to fulfill your deviant desires.   Being attracted to prepubescent children is clearly a serious mental defect and anyone with such desires should check himself into a mental facility immediately before even considering acting on such fantasies .

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #109 on: July 02, 2016, 08:42:55 AM »
My stepmom is a prison psychologist and specifically works with the sex offenders.  She seems to support such nonsensical, unscientific, and morally deranged hypotheses regarding these perverts.   She constantly talks about the sob stories these guys give her and how life circumstances force them into making horrific choices such as raping and murdering children.  We actually had an argument just last night because she unbelievably thinks that in most cases the victims (talking 10-15 year olds here) failed to report sexual abuse because on some level they ENJOY it?!?  :- ???

 I would expect some of these dirtbags to use that as a sick justification for their actions but to hear her come out of her mouth multiple times with this theory is really disappointing.  Especially when you're dealing with older males raping younger males.  Some young boy who has never had a sexual experience with anyone of any gender and is forced into a sexual assault by a male pervert  is more than likely emotionally and intellectually scarred for life.  It could change his sexuality, could change his outlook on normal relationships and completely interfere with his ability to ever have a healthy relationship.

I can understand a guy in his 20s being attracted to a 17 or 18-year-old High school cheerleader type, and in my state age of consent is 16 so there is really no excuse for not being able to fulfill your deviant desires.   Being attracted to prepubescent children is clearly a serious mental defect and anyone with such desires should check himself into a mental facility immediately before even considering acting on such fantasies .

She seems to be becoming a product of her environment.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #110 on: July 02, 2016, 08:58:17 AM »
 I see myself pretty forgiving on the subject.  For instance I can relate to that earlier post about the teenager in the thigh high boots, blonde hair, and well-developed body being able to fool most normal men.  In college when I was about 22 I was bouncing in a popular nightclub in many nights were all ages shows.  And I can't begin to document all the times I was propositioned blatantly hit on in and two cases had girls try to force themselves on me (had it been me behaving in such an aggressive, sexually dominating way against an uncooperative female, I'd be arrested).

Yeah in my state 16 is the age of consent so there's absolutely no reason for anybody to be in jail for  sexual offenses against minors I mean for fuck sake you're legally allowed to have sex with a 16-year-old girl what more can you possibly want?!?  I just been to Brazil multiple times in over there I'm not even sure if there is an age of consent.  The guy is over there have a common expression "she has a face like a baby but she's no baby."  Same thing in Tijuana there would be 15 and 16-year-old girls working in legal brothels right out in the open with military police guarding the place.

 My point is a lot of people don't understand how many legal outlets there are to satisfy such desires.  So if you are indeed guilty of any sort of child molestation or rape against a minor you really need to be put away. My step mom thinks these sickos deserve way more mercy than is warranted, and I'm a pretty liberal guy who thinks guys going to jail for being 20 and having a 17 year old girlfriend is rediculous because every state has a different age of consent. And I'm all for prison and punishment for any of these perverts, I'd like to see more opportunities for them to voluntarily get help for their deviant desires before they actually act on them and victimize someone.  Then people like my step mom can't make excuses for them and help them get less punishment from the court when they do commit horrific acts.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #111 on: July 02, 2016, 09:03:10 AM »
I see myself pretty forgiving on the subject.  For instance I can relate to that earlier post about the teenager in the thigh high boots, blonde hair, and well-developed body being able to fool most normal men.  In college when I was about 22 I was bouncing in a popular nightclub in many nights were all ages shows.  And I can't begin to document all the times I was propositioned blatantly hit on in and two cases had girls try to force themselves on me (had it been me behaving in such an aggressive, sexually dominating way against an uncooperative female, I'd be arrested).

Yeah in my state 16 is the age of consent so there's absolutely no reason for anybody to be in jail for  sexual offenses against minors I mean for fuck sake you're legally allowed to have sex with a 16-year-old girl what more can you possibly want?!?  I just been to Brazil multiple times in over there I'm not even sure if there is an age of consent.  The guy is over there have a common expression "she has a face like a baby but she's no baby."  Same thing in Tijuana there would be 15 and 16-year-old girls working in legal brothels right out in the open with military police guarding the place.

 My point is a lot of people don't understand how many legal outlets there are to satisfy such desires.  So if you are indeed guilty of any sort of child molestation or rape against a minor you really need to be put away. My step mom thinks these sickos deserve way more mercy than is warranted, and I'm a pretty liberal guy who thinks guys going to jail for being 20 and having a 17 year old girlfriend is rediculous because every state has a different age of consent. And I'm all for prison and punishment for any of these perverts, I'd like to see more opportunities for them to voluntarily get help for their deviant desires before they actually act on them and victimize someone.  Then people like my step mom can't make excuses for them and help them get less punishment from the court when they do commit horrific acts.

the worrying bit about the bit I bolded is that you seem to be of the opinion that as long as they do it legally there isn't an issue.

I really hope thats not what you mean.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #112 on: July 02, 2016, 09:09:49 AM »
"She seems to be becoming a product of her environment."

 I believe you may be absolutely correct.  Her education and psychology mainly focused on drug and alcohol addictions and rehabilitation and the entire sex offender career kind of fell into her lap. She makes excuses for these animals, tries to help them lessen their sentences and coddles to them unbelievably.

I myself have a Masters degree in clinical psychology and entertained an idea of a PhD dissertation involving paraphillias (sexual deviant behaviors to us normal people).  Just doing a literature review, background information, and meeting with my academic advisor, made me retreat completely from the entire realm.  My academic advisor was a Doctor Who testified for the courts in cases of forensic sexual homicide against children, did for 2 decades and was paid unbelievably well for this.  And he stopped all involvement in this area and told me to find different area of study as such interaction with these animals "Rots your brain and soul. You can't un-hear what you have to study and it will haunt you forever." Case closed, I ran from that area of psychology, he told me flat out the cannot be cured or even helped, only controlled.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #113 on: July 02, 2016, 09:15:02 AM »
"She seems to be becoming a product of her environment."

 I believe you may be absolutely correct.  Her education and psychology mainly focused on drug and alcohol addictions and rehabilitation and the entire sex offender career kind of fell into her lap. She makes excuses for these animals, tries to help them lessen their sentences and coddles to them unbelievably.

I myself have a Masters degree in clinical psychology and entertained an idea of a PhD dissertation involving paraphillias (sexual deviant behaviors to us normal people).  Just doing a literature review, background information, and meeting with my academic advisor, made me retreat completely from the entire realm.  My academic advisor was a Doctor Who testified for the courts in cases of forensic sexual homicide against children, did for 2 decades and was paid unbelievably well for this.  And he stopped all involvement in this area and told me to find different area of study as such interaction with these animals "Rots your brain and soul. You can't un-hear what you have to study and it will haunt you forever." Case closed, I ran from that area of psychology, he told me flat out the cannot be cured or even helped, only controlled.
Poor choice of words, not sure if you are trolling now......

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #114 on: July 02, 2016, 09:17:41 AM »
i dont think this is a get big topic

its black and white
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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #115 on: July 02, 2016, 09:23:18 AM »
 No not the meaning I had.  What I was referring to was how incredibly scary it would be if you were accused of such horrible crimes in truly were innocent.  Not like you kind assorted did some of the crimes but not all of it but truly were completely innocent of any and all aspects of felony molestation or rape charges.  In such a case I can honestly not be sure what I would do if offered a plea bargain where you don't go to jail, (or if you're in county jail you would be released immediately with time served).

Because the alternative, at least in my state, if you reject any plea bargain you will get a maximum sentence.  And I could not imagine going to the State penitentiary for 10 years or sometime like that carrying the label of a child molester.  So I do have some sympathy for the very few people that she deals with that truly may indeed be innocent.  However, not only does she seem to be easily fooled into believing most of them are innocent, like I said she is bought into some delusion that these people don't deserve such strict punishments and that unbelievably most of these victims somehow enjoyed what happened to them.  As a 60-year-old female who is raised four daughters I would just think she would have a much more realistic look at such situations.

Sorry to ramble on, and post so much at once.   Like I said the subject is just fresh in my mind is we just had an argument about it last night and then I saw this thread.  She started with that nonsense of some 10-year-old girl more than likely getting some sort of enjoyment out of being molested for three years by her stepfather and then went on to talk about some guy in her case load  Who actually killed a toddler and she's convinced by this manipulative pervert that there's some sort of extenuating circumstances that should bring him leniency. So this is why I'm rambling today, my apologies.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #116 on: July 02, 2016, 09:33:39 AM »
i dont think this is a get big topic

its black and white
I agree, these last couple of long winded posts are too apologetic for my liking.

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Re: Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'
« Reply #117 on: July 02, 2016, 09:49:40 AM »
Ok,  my last reply on the topic since a couple people are confused by my admittedly poor choice of words to the point that someone even thinks I'm trolling.

Step mom:  licensed psychologist highly educated but mostly trained and worked in the field of substance-abuse counseling her entire psychology career. "Fell into her lap,"  extremely poor choice of words didn't even realize it when I said it.  To clarify she had retired and after breast cancer decided to rejoin the field and this job offer came to her from a career recruiter.  She had no real training for forensic psychology, let alone practical experience dealing with counseling, evaluating, assessing and treating sex offenders at all.  So I believe she's allowing herself to be manipulated and using her own personal judgments not her professional or educational training which she admittedly lacks in for such a specific population.

Me:  I don't see any form of pedophilia as a sexual orientation we should be accepting of.  I see it clearly and solely as a crime, and a crime of the most serious nature-- more so than any amount of drug charges, theft or things of that nature.  Person is guilty of these crimes should be punished severely but strangely they seem to get lighter sentences than drug crimes, or even DUI.  From my education in the  field of clinical psychology (with a special emphasis on forensics),  these people especially repeat offenders are immune to treatment and can only be controlled.  I'd be happy to be wrong and if new innovations in the field allow for rehabilitation it would be terrific but honestly I don't see it and I think they need to be put away.

Lastly, what I had said about being innocent but accused of some sort of pedophilia crime comes from a personal experience in my teen years.  Before I matured, dedicated self to martial arts, went to college, and grad school, I got into trouble as a teen and put in adult jail for almost a year (assault and various charges resulting from a high school fight between groups, NO sex crime) in Philadlephia. As a reference for the environment, Holmesburg is the only jail in the U.S. that  had a warden and a deputy warden murdered by an inmate on the same day.  Hey man in my dorm room was beaten to death in front of me by a gang (who literally made ski masks out of pillowcases) and it's impossible to describe the incident but suffice to say it was horrible.  Reason for this part of the story is this man was beaten to death for being a suspected child molester.  The guards later announced to the entire tier that the man was in jail for his second DUI and had never been accused of, let alone charged with any such crime.  So I would have sympathy for anyone accused of such a horrific crime they didn't commit because the penalty they are going to pay can be unbelievable.