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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #75 on: July 02, 2017, 05:01:39 PM »
Wes could've at least had the decency to give us a story about banging a stripper.
Too many casualties brother!  ;)

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #76 on: July 02, 2017, 05:02:43 PM »
what as a dildo?
Ya` prick ya` !!  LOL  :D

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #77 on: July 02, 2017, 05:19:53 PM »
Too many casualties brother!  ;)


It reminded me of an incident in my neck of the woods. This is the scary part of the job. When you throw someone out and they announce "We'll be back." They're usually bullshitting but you just never know:


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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #78 on: July 03, 2017, 03:18:47 AM »
Been bouncing for 5 years in the 2000 in a big club in the north of France.

I realised that absolutely all women are whore, but the rest of the time they just hid it because of the social pressure and the "what ppl are gonna said about me".

Because when the light is out and they are around stranger their whorish part of their personnality takes control. And remember it was the pre-smartphone social network era.
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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #79 on: July 03, 2017, 03:51:03 AM »
Been bouncing for 5 years in the 2000 in a big club in the north of France.

I realised that absolutely all women are whore, but the rest of the time they just hid it because of the social pressure and the "what ppl are gonna said about me".

Because when the light is out and they are around stranger their whorish part of their personnality takes control. And remember it was the pre-smartphone social network era.

To be fair, alcohol plays a big role.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2017, 05:31:53 AM »
out of interest - which venue? I'm going to take a guess it was the elephant and wheelbarrow based on the amount of irish blokes there. I did it as a second job for close to 20 years. As far as st kilda goes, I've worked at the palace (back in the early to mid 90 when they had 'twister' there and before it was moved to the front room of the venue, I've also worked at the prince of wales and the greyhound. I've worked a bunch of other places around melbourne too. I got out of the industry around 2012 and am actually (in my mid 40s) going to go back to it, just picking up a fri/sat night because an old friend who is still in the industry has asked me to come and work with him again.

General comments - definitely bartenders and 'good' DJs are the ones having the most luck with the women, but it definitely helps you if you're a bouncer. I'm in all seriousness ugly enough to be (in the words of gunnery sargeant Hartman) 'a modern art masterpiece' and it definitely was the reason for a few of the relationships I've had over that time. I don't think it's so much due to any status symbol. nobody perceives you as a badarse (or badass for you US guys) - if anything working in that industry that long is a cry for help :) . My guess as to why it helps with hooking up with women is that you end up getting into conversations with them because they'll come up to you if they are bored, and in a sense the fact you are working there makes them feel like you aren't going to be the creep that tries to slip something into their drink or assault them or whatever, so in a sense it sort of gets you past the initial job interview phase of any conversation with them.

On the drugs side of things, I'd respectfully have to agree to disagree with the strategy mentioned by El Diablo Blanco of taking money from big dealers, or having any involvement in the drug trade at all. It's likely such endeavours could get you hurt because the last thing you want to do is give criminals, especially more organised (which really just means they have larger numbers) ones leverage over you. Not to mention you'll be in greater trouble (at lease it's the case in Aus) if you get a drug conviction and were working as a bouncer at the time. and  additionally not to mention, if one of the crew I worked with was accepting money from them, and then someone else in the crew got hurt when one of the 'official' dealers fucked up (as they inevitably will) and was thrown out and then the ones getting them out are descended upon by a big crew of them not knowing who to look out for) well the person in the crew that was taking the bribes would be the one taken to task for the other person on the crew getting hurt and it wouldn't go well for them.

As for war stories, sure I've got a few, some of which included known criminals here and there (but Melbourne isn't a big palce so that's not really saying that much) and a few injuries - including permanent brain damage (incased anyone is wondering what drew me to getbig forums in the first place :)   ) that thankfully doesn't have any impact on me of any significant degree (mostly my memory and in particular the way I process/remember/recall some visual images and colours) If anyone is considering doing it, try and avoid places that are supplied staff from a private company unless they have those staff on at that venue permanently and aren't constantly putting new/different people in there. Otherwise they never get to know the crowd and there will tend to be more dramas there in general as they don't build any rapport with the patrons. Most people are creatures of habit and tend to stick with regular venues (over time they come and go but tend to stick around for some time at least) and knowing them means they are actually far less likely to screw up there . And on the same topic, also get areally good 'take' or read or assessment (call it what you will) on the quality of the crew that works there. The right group of blokes will likely save your life and working with the wrong bunch can potentially cost you your life.



Great stuff.  I'd hate to deal with the criminal element and the constant flux as to what to do about them operating (I guess nothing).

When I read the other fella talking about stopping the smaller dealers, I thought, what if you fuck up and a small dealer is not a small dealer?  Seems a bad idea to perpetrate much on someone who knows where you'll be standing all the time.

It's interesting to be on the gold coast and just kind of seeing bikies (bikers) openly running clubs.  Did that happen in melbourne?

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2017, 05:33:23 AM »
To be fair, alcohol plays a big role.

I think most men (including this man) consider a woman displaying openly, her thirst for sexual contact as being a "whore".

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2017, 05:39:46 AM »


When I read the other fella talking about stopping the smaller dealers, I thought, what if you fuck up and a small dealer is not a small dealer?  Seems a bad idea to perpetrate much on someone who knows where you'll be standing all the time.


You got that right. No matter how big and bad you are, if you're standing stationary in front of a door you're in an extremely vulnerable  position.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2017, 05:56:51 AM »
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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2017, 06:00:25 AM »
Having worked in the industry for 30+ yrs
In various positions

It can be great fun & enjoyable
To the absolute opposite
Where it ruins lives or costs some their lives

Everything is there in excess
Women
Drugs
Drink
Violence
Criminals
Gangs
Guns / knives
Love
Hate
Etc

It's largely what you make of it & how you deal with all of it.

Many many stories to bore you with both good & bad.
Perhaps all the security lads on here we should write a book.
Make for one hell of a read.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2017, 06:41:05 AM »
When I was in the industry I used to go to sleep at 5 AM. Now, I wake up at that time.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #86 on: July 03, 2017, 02:54:40 PM »
Question should be who and why would anyone want to be a low wage Bouncer.
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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2017, 03:19:38 PM »
Question should be who and why would anyone want to be a low wage Bouncer.
Probably someone who watched Road House one too many times.


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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2017, 03:22:48 PM »
Probably someone who watched Road House one too many times.



There was one good line in that movie:

"Be nice until it's time to not be nice"

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2017, 03:28:48 PM »
There was one good line in that movie:

"Be nice until it's time to not be nice"
What about: : "Be nice until it's time to be racist"

Dalton would have treated everyone at face value. He wouldn't have reacted off of pre conceived notions.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2017, 03:40:40 PM »
There was one good line in that movie:

"Be nice until it's time to not be nice"

Just the one?  How about

"Pain don't hurt"

"Expect the unexpected"

And of course a popular one round these parts:


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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2017, 03:57:19 PM »
What about: : "Be nice until it's time to be racist"

Dalton would have treated everyone at face value. He wouldn't have reacted off of pre conceived notions.

I look at crime statistics at face value you fucking idiot.






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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #92 on: July 04, 2017, 03:06:40 AM »
out of interest - which venue? I'm going to take a guess it was the elephant and wheelbarrow based on the amount of irish blokes there. I did it as a second job for close to 20 years. As far as st kilda goes, I've worked at the palace (back in the early to mid 90 when they had 'twister' there and before it was moved to the front room of the venue, I've also worked at the prince of wales and the greyhound. I've worked a bunch of other places around melbourne too. I got out of the industry around 2012 and am actually (in my mid 40s) going to go back to it, just picking up a fri/sat night because an old friend who is still in the industry has asked me to come and work with him again.

General comments - definitely bartenders and 'good' DJs are the ones having the most luck with the women, but it definitely helps you if you're a bouncer. I'm in all seriousness ugly enough to be (in the words of gunnery sargeant Hartman) 'a modern art masterpiece' and it definitely was the reason for a few of the relationships I've had over that time. I don't think it's so much due to any status symbol. nobody perceives you as a badarse (or badass for you US guys) - if anything working in that industry that long is a cry for help :) . My guess as to why it helps with hooking up with women is that you end up getting into conversations with them because they'll come up to you if they are bored, and in a sense the fact you are working there makes them feel like you aren't going to be the creep that tries to slip something into their drink or assault them or whatever, so in a sense it sort of gets you past the initial job interview phase of any conversation with them.

On the drugs side of things, I'd respectfully have to agree to disagree with the strategy mentioned by El Diablo Blanco of taking money from big dealers, or having any involvement in the drug trade at all. It's likely such endeavours could get you hurt because the last thing you want to do is give criminals, especially more organised (which really just means they have larger numbers) ones leverage over you. Not to mention you'll be in greater trouble (at lease it's the case in Aus) if you get a drug conviction and were working as a bouncer at the time. and  additionally not to mention, if one of the crew I worked with was accepting money from them, and then someone else in the crew got hurt when one of the 'official' dealers fucked up (as they inevitably will) and was thrown out and then the ones getting them out are descended upon by a big crew of them not knowing who to look out for) well the person in the crew that was taking the bribes would be the one taken to task for the other person on the crew getting hurt and it wouldn't go well for them.

As for war stories, sure I've got a few, some of which included known criminals here and there (but Melbourne isn't a big palce so that's not really saying that much) and a few injuries - including permanent brain damage (incased anyone is wondering what drew me to getbig forums in the first place :)   ) that thankfully doesn't have any impact on me of any significant degree (mostly my memory and in particular the way I process/remember/recall some visual images and colours) If anyone is considering doing it, try and avoid places that are supplied staff from a private company unless they have those staff on at that venue permanently and aren't constantly putting new/different people in there. Otherwise they never get to know the crowd and there will tend to be more dramas there in general as they don't build any rapport with the patrons. Most people are creatures of habit and tend to stick with regular venues (over time they come and go but tend to stick around for some time at least) and knowing them means they are actually far less likely to screw up there . And on the same topic, also get areally good 'take' or read or assessment (call it what you will) on the quality of the crew that works there. The right group of blokes will likely save your life and working with the wrong bunch can potentially cost you your life.



Hi

It was called the Tongue and Groove, not far from Acland street I believe. Only started bouncing on the side when I was at University in 2007 or so and before I started working full time. Barely have time to do a shift now as I'm working FT and studying part-time, but will occasionally work at easy venues like Forum Theater or Moonee Valley.

Having a good crew behind you is definately one of the most important aspects. Luckily I never got hit while working as drunk patrons were mainly focused on hurting each other.

Spot on with the comment about women approaching. It was very easy to get introduced, but the quality wasn't always the greatest. Came across some absolute MILFS trying to relive their glory days.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #93 on: July 04, 2017, 05:11:41 AM »
At a black party I worked, one guy was wearing one of those ridiculous shiny suits (see below). This was during the era when puff daddy was at the peak of his powers.

As shiny suit guy was walking across the dance floor, one guy bumped into another guy who spilled some of his drink on shiny suit guy. I thought it was an improvement, but apparently shiny suit guy felt that a large stain on his suit compromised his appearance. The look on his face was priceless as he yelled "Damn!" The guy who spilled the drink didn't even acknowledge it, so, I thought something was going to go down, but shiny suit guy ended up being all show and no go and took it like a bitch.



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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #94 on: July 04, 2017, 06:38:31 AM »
Bounced a a night or two at a bar called bleachers in Salem ma around 20 years ago.realized very quickly. It wasn't for me as dealing with drunks is not to amusing.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #95 on: July 04, 2017, 06:46:20 AM »
Bounced a a night or two at a bar called bleachers in Salem ma around 20 years ago.realized very quickly. It wasn't for me as dealing with drunks is not to amusing.

You realize pretty quickly that drunk adults are no different from kids. You don't argue with them. You don't reason with them. You just tell them what to do and if they don't listen you drag them away.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #96 on: July 07, 2017, 04:27:21 AM »
When I read the other fella talking about stopping the smaller dealers, I thought, what if you fuck up and a small dealer is not a small dealer?  Seems a bad idea to perpetrate much on someone who knows where you'll be standing all the time.

It's interesting to be on the gold coast and just kind of seeing bikies (bikers) openly running clubs.  Did that happen in melbourne?
I've been out of the industry a few years, but from the time I started (around 1990) to 2011 I can't say I ever worked at a venue that was run - either officially or unofficially by bikies. Things in the gold coast (and so I'm lead to believe Adelaide and possibly one or two places in Perth) are a bit different.

I have worked at a couple of venues that were run by guys obviously into crime and it would seem they were laundering money. They were smart enough (if you can call anyone running a nightclub smart) not to deal on the premises. There were probably people there selling their gear, but not in any official capacity, they just happened to be down the food chain of that particular group. Which was a smarter move, no official involvement, and nobody getting around as a protected species (which is just screaming out to be investigated/closed down).

When ecstacy first hit the scene big time in the early 90s we all thought things were changing forever. Hard blokes were acting like innocent kids on the stuff, and not causing dramas (actually on that note, the book 'muscle' by carlton leach - the real guy who was somewhat fictionalised in 'rise of the footsoldier' - details that, and most of it parallels what I saw in Melbourne).

Back then the clubs that had the most drugs actually had the least amount of trouble, and the venues where they were huge drinkers tended to have the most. It was partly the nature of the drugs, but also the rave scene itself.

Probably my favourite clubs were the goth clubs. No dramas (as long as you did the door right and didn't let in any people that were just there to gawk like looking at animals at the zoo) and girls in goth clothes/makeup look pretty bloody hot, and I also tended to have by far the most interesting/intelligent conversations with girls (and just people in general) there.

Gay clubs (I worked a few, more gay dance parties than regular club gigs) were also very seldom the scene for trouble, and if someone took too much gear the rest of their friends typically would be right there to help them out and make sure it was all ok. Probably the easiest money to be made in the industry, and again all that was needed was to do the door right and make sure you weren't letting in people that couldn't handle that scene/group of people.

Question should be who and why would anyone want to be a low wage Bouncer.

When I started (as a wide eyed kid) I was approached by the manager of a club who knew me. The regular guys had left and the guys working there weren't doing to well with it. He put on the charm and said 'hey XXXX when are you going to come and work for us'. And as a young man I thought, hey it'd be like going out and getting paid for it.... How wrong I was :) . There's definitely some fun to be had at most clubs, but it is also boring a lot of the time, and a little risky. On the low wage thing, most are likely low paid, but if you are either the right look or alternatively know how to handle yourself (both physically but far more importantly verbally) you can get better money. Probably the big thing that held me back was seriously that I look like I just got out of an asylum. I'm not kidding when I say I'm fairly ugly. But I was big enough (never looked like a bodybuilder, though I would have if I could, just don't have the genetics, but carried enough size and was pretty strong - at best I probably looked like a slightly smaller version of westside era Mark Bell in size/condition but I hasten to add I was nowhere near his strength level!) and had imho well above average communication skills, and that got me across the line.

Aside from the money being potentially ok-ish - a lot of the time it is cash in hand (so I'm told :) ) so you can do it as a second job and not have a yuge tax hit.

When I was between jobs I did work several shifts per week, but predominantly I did weekends and worked another 'regular' job during the week. I'd hate to be even thinking about doing it full time now.

Hi

It was called the Tongue and Groove, not far from Acland street I believe.

Barely have time to do a shift now as I'm working FT and studying part-time, but will occasionally work at easy venues like Forum Theater or Moonee Valley.
 

mooney valley :) - if you ever share a hookup story from there remember I'm from melbourne and know what kind of crowd that is :)