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Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« on: July 19, 2016, 06:14:13 PM »
http://newstalk1130.iheart.com/media/play/27164699/

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 07:00:46 PM »
http://newstalk1130.iheart.com/media/play/27164699/

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I understand where he is coming from, but I cannot ignore all the bad Trump brings to the table.  I do not trust him.  Or Hillary. 

I agree with this that someone posted the other day:

Charles Koch: CEO of Koch Industries Discusses Choosing Between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
Asked about voting for the candidates in the November election, Koch told Fortune magazine, "If I had to vote for cancer or heart attack, why would I vote for either."

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2016, 07:18:30 PM »
I understand where he is coming from, but I cannot ignore all the bad Trump brings to the table.  I do not trust him.  Or Hillary. 

I agree with this that someone posted the other day:

Charles Koch: CEO of Koch Industries Discusses Choosing Between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
Asked about voting for the candidates in the November election, Koch told Fortune magazine, "If I had to vote for cancer or heart attack, why would I vote for either."


 I'm in total agreement with you. The current selection for the next President of the U.S. is seriously flawed. One wonders where all the good candidates went. My take: with Clinton, it is going to be the same old, same old loaded with the usual politician's promises, lies and deceit. With Trump, the loose cannon, it's a crap shoot whether our country can survive his term. Then again, we could get lucky and his obvious death wish will be realized sooner rather than later. Either way, either candidate, it's a 'send in the clowns' show.

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 01:17:55 PM »
I'm in total agreement with you. The current selection for the next President of the U.S. is seriously flawed. One wonders where all the good candidates went. My take: with Clinton, it is going to be the same old, same old loaded with the usual politician's promises, lies and deceit. With Trump, the loose cannon, it's a crap shoot whether our country can survive his term. Then again, we could get lucky and his obvious death wish will be realized sooner rather than later. Either way, either candidate, it's a 'send in the clowns' show.

I agree.  We are screwed. 

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2016, 03:08:47 PM »
http://newstalk1130.iheart.com/media/play/27164699/

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Sounds good to me, and lol @ calling Trump a "goob".

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2016, 04:42:23 PM »
I understand where he is coming from, but I cannot ignore all the bad Trump brings to the table.  I do not trust him.  Or Hillary.  

I agree with this that someone posted the other day:

Charles Koch: CEO of Koch Industries Discusses Choosing Between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
Asked about voting for the candidates in the November election, Koch told Fortune magazine, "If I had to vote for cancer or heart attack, why would I vote for either."


I agree.  We are screwed.  

True.

The fact of the matter, as disturbing and sad as it is, one of them IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT.   So, do you vote for the cancer (Killery) with the likely potential to infiltrate all other parts of the body, or a heart attack (Trump) where triage and early intervention is a possibility or ignore it and take what you get?
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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2016, 04:47:10 PM »
We must break the cycle (of which Hillary is firmly a part).  One way or another, and perhaps there's no other way but with Trump.

In fact, Trump may be the last of his kind we see in the big race.  It may be that no single, unconnected person will be able to do in the future what he's done this time.

The country is slipping away.

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2016, 05:15:05 PM »
We must break the cycle (of which Hillary is firmly a part).  One way or another, and perhaps there's no other way but with Trump.

In fact, Trump may be the last of his kind we see in the big race.  It may be that no single, unconnected person will be able to do in the future what he's done this time.

The country is slipping away.

Anyone with enough money and an enormous ego can do what Trump is doing. Most don't want to though.

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2016, 05:17:28 PM »
True.

The fact of the matter, as disturbing and sad as it is, one of them IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT.   So, do you vote for the cancer (Killery) with the likely potential to infiltrate all other parts of the body, or a heart attack (Trump) where triage and early intervention is a possibility or ignore it and take what you get?


I like it.

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2016, 05:18:42 PM »
Anyone with enough money and an enormous ego can do what Trump is doing. Most don't want to though.

I'm afraid Trump himself may be having second thoughts on it, in fact.

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2016, 05:19:30 PM »
I'm in total agreement with you. The current selection for the next President of the U.S. is seriously flawed. One wonders where all the good candidates went. My take: with Clinton, it is going to be the same old, same old loaded with the usual politician's promises, lies and deceit. With Trump, the loose cannon, it's a crap shoot whether our country can survive his term. Then again, we could get lucky and his obvious death wish will be realized sooner rather than later. Either way, either candidate, it's a 'send in the clowns' show.

Welcome to the world of false equivalencies.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2016, 05:33:01 PM »
True.

The fact of the matter, as disturbing and sad as it is, one of them IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT.   So, do you vote for the cancer (Killery) with the likely potential to infiltrate all other parts of the body, or a heart attack (Trump) where triage and early intervention is a possibility or ignore it and take what you get?


I actually don't fault people voting for Trump.  Most of the Trump voters I've talked to are smart and fed up with the status quo.  To them, Trump represents a vote against the status quo/protest vote, warts and all. 

For me, I need to vote my conscience.  I could probably list twenty reasons why I could not punch the ticket for him, including publicly mocking a disabled person, then lying about it.  Also, a narcissist with the temperament of middle school kid in charge of the military and our national defense, with access to nuclear weapons, is a scary thought.  I could go on, but suffice to say I am thoroughly disgusted with Trump and Hillary.     

Voters sticking with the two-party system have a Hobson's Choice in November.

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2016, 05:43:42 PM »
Welcome to the world of false equivalencies.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  

=logical fallacies.....I am not ashamed. Does this make me a bad person?  ???

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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2016, 06:29:45 PM »
=logical fallacies.....I am not ashamed. Does this make me a bad person?  ???

You're equating a racist, misogynist, bigot with a person who used poor judgement regarding a server?  What, Benghazi?  Even Chris Stevens family is
on record saying it's not her fault.  How about the GOP controlled congress cutting embassy security?

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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2016, 06:50:51 PM »
You're equating a racist, misogynist, bigot with a person who used poor judgement regarding a server?  What, Benghazi?  Even Chris Stevens family is
on record saying it's not her fault.  How about the GOP controlled congress cutting embassy security?

I'm not 'saying' anything; I am making a general observation about the current perception of this presidential election. The perception may be way off. Many of my European and American family and friends view this election as a joke, without regard to which candidate they plan to vote for.

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2016, 06:53:19 PM »
I'm not 'saying' anything; I am making a general observation about the current perception of this presidential election. The perception may be way off. Many of my European and American family and friends view this election as a joke, without regard to which candidate they plan to vote for.

You're in the "bubble".

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2016, 07:35:39 PM »
You're equating a racist, misogynist, bigot with a person who used poor judgement regarding a server?  What, Benghazi?  Even Chris Stevens family is
on record saying it's not her fault.  How about the GOP controlled congress cutting embassy security?

lol....seriously?

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2016, 12:53:32 PM »
You're in the "bubble".

Perhaps I am or maybe it is you who is in the bubble.

Who are you quoting in your reply?

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2016, 03:44:59 PM »
You're equating a racist, misogynist, bigot with a person who used poor judgement regarding a server?  What, Benghazi?  Even Chris Stevens family is
on record saying it's not her fault.  How about the GOP controlled congress cutting embassy security?

It was much more than poor judgment.  She put our nation's most closely guarded secrets at risk, then repeatedly lied about it. 

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2016, 03:53:33 PM »
True.

The fact of the matter, as disturbing and sad as it is, one of them IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT.   So, do you vote for the cancer (Killery) with the likely potential to infiltrate all other parts of the body, or a heart attack (Trump) where triage and early intervention is a possibility or ignore it and take what you get?


Forget the long history showing her to be a despicable, repugnant human being and just focus on recent events like Benghazi and the email debacle (where the fix was in).

And..


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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2016, 08:36:03 PM »
It was much more than poor judgment.  She put our nation's most closely guarded secrets at risk, then repeatedly lied about it. 

That's just simply false.  As 7 Republican led investigations and tens of millions of dollars spent has shown.

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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2016, 09:00:35 AM »
That's just simply false.  As 7 Republican led investigations and tens of millions of dollars spent has shown.

I don't think its false that she did indeed put our nation's secrets at risk and then lied or at least stonewalled about it.....HOWEVER...she committed no crime as Republicans keep asserting.....I've decided I can't in good conscience vote for either candidate

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Re: Can ANYONE disagree with any of this?
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2016, 12:12:54 PM »
That's just simply false.  As 7 Republican led investigations and tens of millions of dollars spent has shown.

Wait.  Are you seriously saying Hillary did not run classified intel off of her home computer and personal devices and lie to the public about it?