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Trump & Putin. Yes, It's Really a Thing
« on: July 25, 2016, 03:55:38 PM »
Source: The Daily Beast

The FBI suspects that Russian government hackers breached the networks of the Democratic National Committee and stole emails that were posted to the anti-secrecy site WikiLeaks on Friday. It’s an operation that several U.S. officials now suspect was a deliberate attempt to influence the presidential election in favor of Donald Trump, according to five individuals familiar with the investigation of the breach.

The theory that Moscow orchestrated the leaks to help Trump, who has repeatedly praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and practically called for the end of NATO, is fast gaining currency within the Obama administration because of the timing of the leaks and Trump’s own connections to the Russian government, the sources said on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing and developing quickly.

About 20,000 internal DNC emails were disclosed just days before the beginning of the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia and several showed an effort by staffers to undermine Bernie Sanders’s campaign against Hillary Clinton. One email even discussed challenging Sanders’s religious faith. In response to the embarrassing revelations, DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz announced she would step down after the convention.

Current and former U.S. officials drew analogies to so-called “active measures campaigns,” or state-sponsored operations designed for political effects.

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/25/fbi-suspects-russia-hacked-dnc-u-s-officials-say-it-was-to-elect-donald-trump.html

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Obama: Trump 'is ultimately helping do ISIL's work for us'


Source: CNN

Philadelphia (CNN)President Barack Obama had strong words for Donald Trump's rhetoric over Muslims in the wake of terrorist attacks, saying -- using another acronym for ISIS -- that Trump "is ultimately helping do ISIL's work for us."

Obama also said Trump's suggestion he might not back NATO allies show he's unprepared to handle foreign policy, in an interview aired Sunday.

Obama's comments came in an interview with CBS' John Dickerson on "Face the Nation." The day before the Democratic National Convention's kickoff, the President made clear he's eager to attack Trump over foreign policy.

He lambasted Trump for suggesting the United States should refuse to assist NATO allies who haven't contributed enough financially to the trans-Atlantic alliance.

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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/politics/obama-trump-nato-isis/

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Absurd. 

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Absurd. 

I'm not even debating it - it happened - and they held it 8 weeks til the eve of trump's nomination for a damn good reason - that happened, no denying that.   SC, you're a bright dude, I think you can agree they're trying to influence something.


The only debate here is "if they just randomly did the shit" to benefit the guy they want - or of they're getting friendly NATO terms from trump in exchange.  Dude, nobody believes they're doing it for fun - they want trump in there.  Not debatable.  They want him.

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I'm not even debating it - it happened - and they held it 8 weeks til the eve of trump's nomination for a damn good reason - that happened, no denying that.   SC, you're a bright dude, I think you can agree they're trying to influence something.


The only debate here is "if they just randomly did the shit" to benefit the guy they want - or of they're getting friendly NATO terms from trump in exchange.  Dude, nobody believes they're doing it for fun - they want trump in there.  Not debatable.  They want him.

Was referring to Ovomit

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Was referring to Ovomit

oh yeah, i used that quote to stir shit up.  obama just piling on trump there.

I do question the trump-russia connection.

Trump says "i think poor NATO nations shouldnt get protection" a few days ago, and voila, Russia drops the DNC email bomb the next day?

awfully convenient for him.   he promises to let russia rape its poor neighbors, and they give him a really big cannon to delegitimize his opponent Hilary.   Pretty convenient. 

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Kremlin dismisses US Democratic email hack claims as 'absurd'
AFP via Yahoo ^ | July 26th, 2016 | Unattributed
Posted on 7/26/2016, 10:01:23 AM by Mariner

Moscow (AFP) - The Kremlin on Tuesday dismissed allegations that Russia was behind a hack of the Democratic National Committee's emails as absurd, mocking what it called obsessive references to Russia in the US presidential campaign.

"This absurd news was immediately refuted by the family of the well-known presidential candidate," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists, referring to Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr.

"We are still seeing attempts to obsessively use the topic of Russia during the US electoral campaign," Peskov complained.

"Unfortunately Russia is being used in the electoral campaign in the US. Unfortunately this traditional game is continuing.

"We think that's not very good for bilateral relations but we understand that we need to get through this unfavourable period."

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JOHN CRUDELE
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Clinton practically handed her email password to the Russians
By John Crudele July 25, 2016 | 9:39pm
Modal Trigger Clinton practically handed her email password to the Russians
Then-U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton hands off her mobile phone. Photo: AP
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The Russians didn’t hack into Hillary Clinton’s private e-mail server, as others have reported, according to a very reliable source of mine who has connections with US intelligence agencies.

They didn’t have to.

Clinton was so careless when using her BlackBerry that the Russians stole her password. All Russian President Vladimir Putin’s gang had to do was log into Clinton’s account and read whatever they wanted.

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They had to be laughing their butts off. So you can add the Russians to the list of people who know bad and personal things about Clinton that the Democrats will wish remain hidden.

FBI Director James Comey said a few weeks ago that Clinton had been “extremely careless” with her e-mails, but he added that he didn’t think the server she’d been using had been hacked by “hostile actors.”

But Comey also said it was unlikely the FBI would be able to find such evidence if a hacking had occurred. He added, “It is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account.”

Clinton countered by saying that Comey was just speculating about a hacking. “If you go by the evidence, there is no evidence that the system was breached or hacked successfully,” she said.
My source says he’s “absolutely 100 percent sure” on what he told me. “I know it to be fact.”

What’s in any e-mail account? Stuff about your personal life, including embarrassing conversations. In Hillary’s case, speeches and details about the payments. Clinton Foundation secrets. The Russians, I’m told, got it all.

Comey and Clinton could, then, honestly say the server wasn’t hacked. But he never addressed the point — and may not have known — that the Russians had an easier way to get Hillary’s vital information by simply logging in to her account.

So let’s assume the worst — that Putin knows everything that Hillary did for years by having someone sign in under her password and read her mail. What does he do next? He could, of course, release the 20,000 or so e-mails that Clinton thought had been erased and stir up the November election.

Putin is welcome to give them to me. But he’ll probably go the usual route — WikiLeaks.

Or he could hold some back so he can blackmail President Clinton if she wins.

My continuing point is this: The Democrats should pick someone else. Too many people know too many bad things about Hillary. And someone is going to let loose before November.

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by the end of this campaign, we'll see a lot of Palin/Rudy style sucking up to Russia.

I remember Palin admiring his bold, indepdent ability to make decisions - because on his own, in 15 minutes, he decided to invade another nation.

I prefer the system of checks, balance, debate that takes place in the USA.  Being decisive is one thing - but I don't think Palin (or many others) realize we do NOT want a strong russia eating up her neighbors.  Hurts the USA in the long run.

We want a weaker russia, folks.  We don't want them having permission slip via NATo stand down, to take out their neighbors.

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Obama on DNC hack: 'Experts attribute this to the Russians'


Source: Politico

President Barack Obama is not ruling out Russia and Vladimir Putin being responsible for the hack of the Democratic National Committee servers that resulted a massive leak of around 20,000 emails.

Asked by NBC News' Savannah Guthrie on Tuesday whether Russia is behind the hack and release of information and whether they're trying to interfere with the U.S. elections, Obama noted that the FBI is still investigating but also that "experts have attributed this to the Russians."

"What we do know is that the Russians hack our systems. Not just government systems, but private systems. But you know, what the motives were in terms of the leaks, all that- I can't say directly," Obama said. "What I do know is that Donald Trump has repeatedly expressed admiration for Vladimir Putin."

Guthrie responded, "Sounds like you're suggesting that Putin might be motivated to prefer Trump in the White House?"

"Well-- I am basing this on what Mr. Trump himself has said. And I think that-- Trump's gotten pretty favorable coverage-- back in Russia," Obama said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/obama-dnc-hack-russia-226246

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Re: CONFIRMED: DNC HACKER WAS RUSSIAN
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2016, 09:34:06 PM »

‘DNC Hacker’ Unmasked: He Really Works for Russia, Researchers Say


Source: The Daily Beast

The hacker who claimed to compromise the DNC swore he was Romanian. But new research shows he worked directly for the Vladimir Putin government in Moscow.

The hacker who claims to have stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee and provided them to WikiLeaks is actually an agent of the Russian government and part of an orchestrated attempt to influence U.S. media coverage surrounding the presidential election, a security research group concluded on Tuesday.

The researchers, at Arlington, Va.-based ThreatConnect, traced the self-described Romanian hacker Guccifer 2.0 back to an Internet server in Russia and to a digital address that has been linked in the past to Russian online scams. Far from being a singly, sophisticated hacker, Guccifer 2.0 is more likely a collection of people from the propaganda arm of the Russian government meant to deflect attention away from Moscow as the force behind the DNC hacks and leaks of emails, the researchers found.

ThreatConnect is the first known group of experts to link the self-proclaimed hacker to a Russian operation, amidst an ongoing FBI investigation and a presidential campaign rocked by the release of DNC emails that have embarrassed senior party leaders and inflamed intraparty tensions turning the Democratic National Convention. The emails revealed that party insiders plotted ways to undermine Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential bid.

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/26/dnc-hacker-unmasked-he-really-works-for-russia-researchers-say.html

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Re: CONFIRMED: DNC HACKER WAS RUSSIAN
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2016, 09:35:03 PM »
Trump & Putin. Yes, It's Really a Thing - Josh Marshall


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing

Read it. Devastating implications for Trump.


"Over the last year there has been a recurrent refrain about the seeming bromance between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. More seriously, but relatedly, many believe Trump is an admirer and would-be emulator of Putin's increasingly autocratic and illiberal rule. But there's quite a bit more to the story. At a minimum, Trump appears to have a deep financial dependence on Russian money from persons close to Putin. And this is matched to a conspicuous solicitousness to Russian foreign policy interests where they come into conflict with US policies which go back decades through administrations of both parties. There is also something between a non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed financial support of Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two men."
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing

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Re: Trump & Putin. Yes, It's Really a Thing
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2016, 10:54:08 PM »
wow Im happy to read 240 posts.

Glad Im not the only one who thinks this way.