NPC Nationals winners then and now

[Simple Simon]

Why do you feel tren is behind pec tears?

I will take this, its because he believes that it strengthens the muscle faster than the tendon can cope with, and as such the tendons cannot withstand the extra weight.

[WalterWhite]

I will take this, its because he believes that it strengthens the muscle faster than the tendon can cope with, and as such the tendons cannot withstand the extra weight.

Exactly.  The only pec tear I saw when I was competing was a guy I spotted benching 550lbs and that was tough to pull off him . I was not far behind him competing raw in the 198's and never had as much as a twinge. 

[Simple Simon]

Exactly.  The only pec tear I saw when I was competing was a guy I spotted benching 550lbs and that was tough to pull off him . I was not far behind him competing raw in the 198's and never had as much as a twinge. 

compliment fishing of peace.

[delta9mda]

My Watson test from target pharma only ever came in 5 ml bottles

[Taffin]

I was taking the old parabolan when I was 28, two shots a week was pretty much enough to make you an emotional wreak, that was just over 150mgs

A gram of tren these days?

I had an extremely negative reaction to the old Parabolan back in '96 or so and it actually scared me off all steroids for a few years. But you don't always get the same reaction at different points in your life. Plus your body and mind can adapt to higher and higher doses over time. Tren still wrecks guys' minds... almost everyone gets increased anxiety and quite a few to the point of panic attacks. Homicidal and suicidal ideation etc Lol... but guys still use it despite all because it works. A few handle it with rec drugs.

This was the beauty of not having the internet back then - I didn't know these things were supposed to have that sort of effect! 

My first cycle of the original Parabolan (+Schering Primo) while I was dieting at the same time I clearly remember I could suddenly do strict bodyweight chins and those knuckle-in Gironda dips all day and on on low carbs to boot... probably the best functional condition I ever got into if I'm honest...  (old fart sighs and puts the fading pictures back into his wallet at this point. )

In fact, the only time I remember anything affecting me (that I noticed myself anyway) was the first time I tried Clenbuterol, which made me a bit twitchy when doing door work.

[Simple Simon]

This was the beauty of not having the internet back then - I didn't know these things were supposed to have that sort of effect! 

My first cycle of the original Parabolan (+Schering Primo) while I was dieting at the same time I clearly remember I could suddenly do strict bodyweight chins and those knuckle-in Gironda dips all day and on on low carbs to boot... probably the best functional condition I ever got into if I'm honest...  (old fart sighs and puts the fading pictures back into his wallet at this point. )

In fact, the only time I remember anything affecting me (that I noticed myself anyway) was the first time I tried Clenbuterol, which made me a bit twitchy when doing door work.

the advice when using clen back in the 90s was take enough to give you the shakes then cut back a tab.

very professional.

[Taffin]

I can remember Dorian saying he couldn't take more than 3 shots of parabolan a week
As his mid - lower back would lock up --

my training partner & i  had the same problem if we did 3 shots a week - 2 fine -
a couple of weeks on 3 and lockup on deadlifts / bent rows / squats

How they are doing a 1000+ mgs of Parabolan equivalent !!!

It appears there is some difference to the compounds.

We were using 2x organon sust - deca -From The Napp Labs and 2x parabolan -- Negam

strong as hell & less than 8% body fat felt like could walk through walls
If only i could get the exact same items now..

I remember my old gym in the late 90-early 2000, a lot of lifter were speaking about the good old negma. The magical stack was 2 test e + 2 para negma (152mg). They told me they couldn't handle more than 2/3 negma e.w because it was too strong. I can remember myself the first time i used sustanon in 2002, genuine from european pharma produced in the organon factory based in netherlands, damn it was crazy, the stuff was unbelievable.  Then i used the paki and various source of sust but none of these came close from the pharma sust.

We used to get our Organon Sust in those ampoules that came all strung along in a (seemingly) endless single line of a plastic bubble with a foil back, like an ammunition bandolier.  Because of the Underground Steroid Handbook we saw a huge amount of them  .  I used to hate using the little file to weaken the neck as I always expected the thing to shatter if I gripped it too hard.  The guy we got them from worked for the UN or something out in India/Pakistan or something (or so the story went).  Seemed to work well for us but I s'pose I had nothing to compare it against at the time.

[WalterWhite]

We used to get our Organon Sust in those ampoules that came all strung along in a (seemingly) endless single line of a plastic bubble with a foil back, like an ammunition bandolier.  Because of the Underground Steroid Handbook we saw a huge amount of them  .  I used to hate using the little file to weaken the neck as I always expected the thing to shatter if I gripped it too hard.  The guy we got them from worked for the UN or something out in India/Pakistan or something (or so the story went).  Seemed to work well for us but I s'pose I had nothing to compare it against at the time.

Egypt now.