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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2016, 02:24:51 PM »
How many times are you going to be wrong before shame causes you to abandon this account?

Hopefully a mod intervenes before we get to that point.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2016, 02:29:57 PM »
look up the definition of sprint dumbass.

How many times are you going to be wrong before shame causes you to abandon this account?

What a whiny picky bitch you are, that is my workout I describe I sprint hard and obviously after about 20 seconds i will slow down a bit but I keep going hard for two min then I start walking on the treadmill and repeat if you want to do it for only 20 secs then stop go ahead.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2016, 02:36:59 PM »
What a whiny picky bitch you are, that is my workout I describe I sprint hard and obviously after about 20 seconds i will slow down a bit but I keep going hard for two min then I start walking on the treadmill and repeat if you want to do it for only 20 secs then stop go ahead.

If you are going to give information then make sure its right.

no one weighing 250lbs as you claim can sprint hard for 2 mins, you would know that if you were 250lbs.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2016, 02:38:10 PM »
Interesting that not one person posting in this thread-besides myself-even looks like they lift. And they're spouting "advice". ::)

True 'dat. ;D

I always looked like a swimmer or tennis player.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2016, 02:43:31 PM »
If you are going to give information then make sure its right.

no one weighing 250lbs as you claim can sprint hard for 2 mins, you would know that if you were 250lbs.

Sorry to break it to you but big guys can move.


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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2016, 02:49:56 PM »
Sorry to break it to you but big guys can move.



not for 2 mins flat out you daft twat

Glad you now understand what a sprint is.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2016, 02:55:47 PM »
A sprint workout would be 10 seconds all out, followed by 1-1.5 minutes of easy jogging, repeated ~8 times.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2016, 02:56:40 PM »
not for 2 mins flat out you daft twat

Glad you now understand what a sprint is.

I already explain to you shitbrain that because i am advance after 20 sec i do slow down but i keep going hard as i can for another min and a half then i walk and repeat, but  keep walking for an hour with your toothpick legs, in the bodybuilding world you look like a runner anyhow.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2016, 02:59:54 PM »
I already explain to you shitbrain that because i am advance after 20 sec i do slow down but i keep going hard as i can for another min and a half then i walk and repeat, but  keep walking for an hour with your toothpick legs, in the bodybuilding world you look like a runner anyhow.
and that might be you at 6 mph coughing your guts up.

"as hard as I can" what the fuck does that mean.

a 250lb man cannot run hard for 2 mins, the heart simply isnt big enough to keep the muscles engorged with oxygenated blood to maintain that pace.
Most sprinters dont even breath during a 100 meter race.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2016, 03:06:16 PM »
this

the longest sprint in track and field is 400 meters

Today's elite runners are actually sprinting for up to 800 meters.  They run faster than the majority of commercial treadmills can go by a lot. Most high school athletes would have trouble keeping up for 200 meters at the speeds they are running and they would be sprinting all out.

Regarding the other posts showing the elites of the various distances that doesn't apply to supplementing running with bodybuilding. Yes if you ran 10 to 20 miles a day at 5 to 7 minute miles and have the genetics gifts to do that you would be very light in body weight.  For a gym rat working with weights running 2 to 5 miles a 3 to 5 days a week will enhance how you look by making you lean. Almost all boxers, wrestlers and MMA guys run.  

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2016, 03:10:53 PM »
Today's elite runners are actually sprinting for up to 800 meters.  They run faster than the majority of commercial treadmills can go by a lot. Most high school athletes would have trouble keeping up for 200 meters at the speeds they are running and they would be sprinting all out.

Regarding the other posts showing the elites of the various distances that doesn't apply to supplementing running with bodybuilding. Yes if you ran 10 to 20 miles a day at 5 to 7 minute miles and have the genetics gifts to do that you would be very light in body weight.  For a gym rat working with weights running 2 to 5 miles a 3 to 5 days a week will enhance how you look by making you lean. Almost all boxers, wrestlers and MMA guys run.  

They're not sprinting. By the time you get to 800, it's primarily an aerobic event. Sprinting is anaerobic.

The reason to run is the development of an aerobic base. In a sport like boxing, you alternate between hard and easy efforts. An aerobic base helps you to recover more quickly and easily from the hard efforts.


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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2016, 03:13:52 PM »
and that might be you at 6 mph coughing your guts up.

"as hard as I can" what the fuck does that mean.

a 250lb man cannot run hard for 2 mins, the heart simply isnt big enough to keep the muscles engorged with oxygenated blood to maintain that pace.
Most sprinters dont even breath during a 100 meter race.

You are more ignorant about exercise and training than I thought you should see the kind of training that a strongman does and some of them weigh over 400 pounds, 2 min is nothing for a 250 man to run, I need to buy you a book on training and nutrition you really have no clue.


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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2016, 03:14:41 PM »
They're not sprinting. By the time you get to 800, it's primarily an aerobic event. Sprinting is anaerobic.

The reason to run is the development of an aerobic base. In a sport like boxing, you alternate between hard and easy efforts. An aerobic base helps you to recover more quickly and easily from the hard efforts.



thank fuck you are here.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2016, 03:32:42 PM »
Thats not even a sprint, 400 meter athletes pace the race

good point

i guess the only pure sprint is the 100 meters as the PC-ATP system is fully depleated after about 12 seconds

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2016, 03:36:39 PM »
They're not sprinting. By the time you get to 800, it's primarily an aerobic event. Sprinting is anaerobic.

The reason to run is the development of an aerobic base. In a sport like boxing, you alternate between hard and easy efforts. An aerobic base helps you to recover more quickly and easily from the hard efforts.



cool chart

so maybe the only pure sprint is the 60 meter dash

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2016, 04:15:15 PM »
cool chart

so maybe the only pure sprint is the 60 meter dash

There's some debate over the duration of the atp cp system.

Looking at Bolt, his top speed starts to decrease after 70 meters:


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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2016, 04:17:49 PM »
You won't be able to find one but if you could find a treadmill that could go faster than a 4 minute mile and that's the speed of an elite 800 meter race I guarantee it's faster than most 20 somethings  can sprint for a 100 meters. So the application doesn't apply to the majority regarding oxygen exchange.

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2016, 04:19:24 PM »
There's some debate over the duration of the atp cp system.

Looking at Bolt, his top speed starts to decrease after 70 meters:



thats true, some say it can last up to 12 secs, while other put its top end at around 8 secs

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2016, 04:24:17 PM »
Thats not even a sprint, 400 meter athletes pace the race
This is not true. Elite athletes don't pace on the 400m. It is very much a sprint

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2016, 04:25:18 PM »
I do sets of 36 sprints, 20 seconds on / 20 sec off.   I put the treadmill up to 13 mph on some, which is a 4.6 minute mile.

It's unbelievable to me that the elite marathon runners hold that pace for 2 straight hours.   They are machines.
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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #45 on: December 12, 2016, 04:55:07 PM »
I do sets of 36 sprints, 20 seconds on / 20 sec off.   I put the treadmill up to 13 mph on some, which is a 4.6 minute mile.

It's unbelievable to me that the elite marathon runners hold that pace for 2 straight hours.   They are machines.

That's distance running. It's not the speed but the holding of pace. Smaller people have an advantage as they have bigger pound for pound engines and regulate heat more easily than big men.

This is the best Marathon runner in the world. Dude weighs 125 soaking wet.


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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2016, 09:47:38 PM »
This is not true. Elite athletes don't pace on the 400m. It is very much a sprint
have you ever heard the terms "hes gone off too quickly" used in a 400meters race?

now, have you ever heard that term used in a 100 meters?

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #47 on: December 12, 2016, 11:15:11 PM »
I had to stop any hard running when I hit 50 because of joint pain and soreness.

The OP has a point, but it's a bit over blown.
Running a few miles each week is a good form of cardio for any athlete in their prime.


And your physique clearly shows

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Re: You need to stop running
« Reply #48 on: December 12, 2016, 11:17:48 PM »
The sprinter in the photo has elite genetics to compete at the top level, and trains very seriously.

Normal people who sprint won't look like that.


I'm sure he's no justin gatlin