5 grams a week to look like this

[ESFitness]

He may be 300or 320 or 290or whatever... But his shoulders army's squared and his traps don't jump..so in the video thumb he looks like he could be 180 with a big skull.

P.s. my beards better

[dave19]

Average genetics can't get his size on any dosage IMO.

Agreed.

He looks like garbage to me but that's not the point... he has a LOT of muscle and it's not just water and fat as some may seem to think.

[Scat Cavier]

LOL

[Hack Benchers]

Be There - please can u post that pic of him with the Klingon forehead?  On the road to 400lbs, you know the one.... caused by his previously undiagnosed congenital kidney disorder... NOT by his death stack,  nono no no noooo....l

LOL! 

[Simple Simon]

Agreed.

He looks like garbage to me but that's not the point... he has a LOT of muscle and it's not just water and fat as some may seem to think.

What do you think he would weigh at 5% BF?

[light weight baby]

What do you think he would weigh at 5% BF?

100kg?

[Hack Benchers]

What do you think he would weigh at 5% BF?

Buck 68

[dave19]

What do you think he would weigh at 5% BF?

Pretty hard to tell because there are a few important factors here...

a) I don't know how tall he is and how much he weighs in that kind of condition
b) It highly depends on how successful his preparation would go
c) Are we talking about 5% bf contest shape after getting rid of any excess water?
d) Pretty hard to judge the legs in that kind of shape because it's hard to tell what's muscle and what's not

Assuming that he is average height (5'11") and his diet would be perfect so he would not lose too much muscle in the process of dieting I guess he could come in at around 195lbs contest weight. I'm this height, my lower body is most likely better than his or at least the same size but his upper body has a lot more muscle than mine and when close to contest shape I am around 185 minus probably another 8-10lbs of water would put me at ~175-177lbs ripped to shreds.... since I think he carries a lot more muscle on his upper body I'd think this might come close... or maybe I'm totally off I don't know, I gave it a try  

... and to those who say that 195lbs contest weight is nothing, can be achieved naturally or at least by anyone with some gear - take a look at Go4It at 160lbs and think again. 195lbs contest weight on average height is pretty damn impressive.

[Simple Simon]

Pretty hard to tell because there are a few important factors here...

a) I don't know how tall he is and how much he weighs in that kind of condition
b) It highly depends on how successful his preparation would go
c) Are we talking about 5% bf contest shape after getting rid of any excess water?
d) Pretty hard to judge the legs in that kind of shape because it's hard to tell what's muscle and what's not

Assuming that he is average height (5'11") and his diet would be perfect so he would not lose too much muscle in the process of dieting I guess he could come in at around 195lbs contest weight. I'm this height, my lower body is most likely better than his or at least the same size but his upper body has a lot more muscle than mine and when close to contest shape I am around 185 minus probably another 8-10lbs of water would put me at ~175-177lbs ripped to shreds.... since I think he carries a lot more muscle on his upper body I'd think this might come close... or maybe I'm totally off I don't know, I gave it a try  

... and to those who say that 195lbs contest weight is nothing, can be achieved naturally or at least by anyone with some gear - take a look at Go4It at 160lbs and think again. 195lbs contest weight on average height is pretty damn impressive.

I'm talking 5% and stage ready , no excess water
Hes about 6'3 I think, hes likely to be about 220, and most of that will be his frame, he doesn't have a lot of muscle under all that fat and water.

hes never going to do it because I think its beyond him, his ego couldnt take the drop in size so we will never know.

To be fair its all guess work until someone actually gets down, one things certain, they are always lighter than they expect.

[oldschoolfan]

Bald - check
Gay beard - check
Gay tattooes - check
Permabulker - check

takes it in the butt- check

spends a ton of money on rich pianas shitty supplements- check

delusional dip shit- check

doesnt realize he looks like a fucking retard to 99.9% to the rest of the world-check

[oldschoolfan]

I expected something different... that guy is HUGE!

I guess most people with less than ideal genes for bodybuilding would need a whole lot of gear to get this big so I really don't see the point of this thread.

Legs seem to be lacking though..

dave seriously  this guy looks like shit,

[8 INCH not biceps]

I'm talking 5% and stage ready , no excess water
Hes about 6'3 I think, hes likely to be about 220, and most of that will be his frame, he doesn't have a lot of muscle under all that fat and water.

hes never going to do it because I think its beyond him, his ego couldnt take the drop in size so we will never know.

To be fair its all guess work until someone actually gets down, one things certain, they are always lighter than they expect.

I disagree his bodyfat percentage is very high you cant even see his abs shredded he would be under 200 pounds between 190 to 195

[bigmc]

great natural look

easy to maintain without a ton of gear

[NelsonMuntz]

reminds me of that guy who used to post on the boards Anabolic1, married to his wife, loyal to his needle, something like that, used to love that guy's postings

[njflex]

Pretty hard to tell because there are a few important factors here...

a) I don't know how tall he is and how much he weighs in that kind of condition
b) It highly depends on how successful his preparation would go
c) Are we talking about 5% bf contest shape after getting rid of any excess water?
d) Pretty hard to judge the legs in that kind of shape because it's hard to tell what's muscle and what's not

Assuming that he is average height (5'11") and his diet would be perfect so he would not lose too much muscle in the process of dieting I guess he could come in at around 195lbs contest weight. I'm this height, my lower body is most likely better than his or at least the same size but his upper body has a lot more muscle than mine and when close to contest shape I am around 185 minus probably another 8-10lbs of water would put me at ~175-177lbs ripped to shreds.... since I think he carries a lot more muscle on his upper body I'd think this might come close... or maybe I'm totally off I don't know, I gave it a try  

... and to those who say that 195lbs contest weight is nothing, can be achieved naturally or at least by anyone with some gear - take a look at Go4It at 160lbs and think again. 195lbs contest weight on average height is pretty damn impressive.

x2....that's 35 morel bs lean mass if truly shredded that's crazy for a 5'7-5'10 build

[_bruce_]

Looks like a walking "happy-meal" for bear lovers. 

[Griffith]

Full of oil.

[phreak]

Actually a funny guy in a very down-to-earth way. Also quick to admit it when he makes mistakes, which is refreshing. Where Piana tries desperately to come across as someone who doesn't give a shit, with Crosland I actually believe it.

For those who imagine he thinks he looked great at 400 Lbs: watch his recent Happy NY vid. He is adamant he looked like shit, and that it was one of the stupidest things he ever did.