Author Topic: Immigration Enforcement Raids Six States (Read 8541 times)

bike nut · « **Reply #50 on:** February 12, 2017, 02:41:05 PM »

Quote from: Palumboism on February 12, 2017, 01:39:25 PM

That's how economics works. If nobody wants to do a job they have to pay more. That's why garbage men are paid well. What makes you think people picking fruit should only be paid minimum wage. The labor market is what determines wages. The fact that there are illegal aliens mean the farmers don't have to pay any more than minimum wage and that's why only 30 percent of their workers are legal.

My argument is with justifying illegal immigration so farmers don't have to pay more for field workers. especially considering many of these farms are actually large corporations.

So CA imports 12,000,000 illegal immigrants to harvest crops. Then the water runs out and the cost for Ag becomes so high farming drops by 80% and moves to another state. When the beaners follow the lettuce to Oregon, Texas, Whoknows, who pays the tab then?

This is about votes, nothing more.

Monsanto cares more about Mexicans than the Democrat Party

bigkid · « **Reply #51 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:27:54 PM »

Quote from: Palumboism on February 12, 2017, 01:39:25 PM

That's how economics works. If nobody wants to do a job they have to pay more. That's why garbage men are paid well. What makes you think people picking fruit should only be paid minimum wage. The labor market is what determines wages. The fact that there are illegal aliens mean the farmers don't have to pay any more than minimum wage and that's why only 30 percent of their workers are legal.

My argument is with justifying illegal immigration so farmers don't have to pay more for field workers. especially considering many of these farms are actually large corporations.

That's really not how it works. Garbage men aren't paid well. Neither are janitors, landscape workers, dishwashers, farm workers because they are unskilled laborers. It's not a simple answer of paying more. That's a total fallacy. It's the physical demands of the job that keeps people away. Most farmworkers in the field make 10-12 an hour. I could double that and I'm not going to have Americans lining up the consistent 6-7 days a week i need them in the field working. Just isn't going to happen. Many have tried and failed miserably. Just because big farms are "large corporations" doesn't mean their immune from losing money. Huge sums of money at that. The answer is a reasonable guest worker plan that can bring the people in legally to perform these jobs that Americans are never going to do again. Unless you want to think out of the box and make prisoners do it or turn off welfare and think they're going to come out and work.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #52 on:** February 12, 2017, 08:34:13 PM »

Quote from: Yamcha on February 12, 2017, 11:30:19 AM

Fuck vegetables.

And fuck the Diaz brothers.

bike nut · « **Reply #53 on:** February 12, 2017, 08:47:40 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on February 12, 2017, 08:34:13 PM

And fuck the Diaz brothers.

And their sister Cameron.

SF1900 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 12, 2017, 09:06:11 PM »

I like vegetables.

BBSSchlemiel · « **Reply #55 on:** February 13, 2017, 05:14:05 AM »

Reading news like this is like being high with no drugs needed. So there is NOW fear in the immigrant community? They should've been scared all along!

falco · « **Reply #56 on:** February 13, 2017, 06:04:15 AM »

Americans are going to be short on Mexican housekeepers. Who's going to do the dishes now?

TheGrinch · « **Reply #57 on:** February 13, 2017, 08:38:28 AM »

I love how 50% of this country view it "illegal" to ENFORCE current laws...LOL

amazing...

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #58 on:** February 13, 2017, 12:13:09 PM »

Trust me everyone, America will be just fine without these turds.

Yamcha · « **Reply #59 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:24:39 PM »

This is just the beginning. THREE executive orders are being written to address those pesky "Ratas" that have overstayed their welcome.

Deal with it.

TuHolmes · « **Reply #60 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:26:57 PM »

My only question really is about certain jobs being done.

Rumor has it that a lot of gardeners and handyman types have disappeared.

If all of them are gone, there are some jobs that people can take on if they want to stop the unemployment rate.

Yamcha · « **Reply #61 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:32:26 PM »

Quote from: TuHolmes on February 13, 2017, 01:26:57 PM

My only question really is about certain jobs being done.

Rumor has it that a lot of gardeners and handyman types have disappeared.

If all of them are gone, there are some jobs that people can take on if they want to stop the unemployment rate.

Sounds like a good business opportunity for a down on his luck American

TuHolmes · « **Reply #62 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:33:15 PM »

Quote from: Yamcha on February 13, 2017, 01:32:26 PM

Sounds like a good business opportunity for a down on his luck American

I agree. I hope people take this opportunity to lower the UE rate.

Yamcha · « **Reply #63 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:39:51 PM »

Lots of mexican food restaurants in my neck of the woods (TexMex) will be in need of staff/cooks as well. That's the only way the mass deportations will hurt me... my stomach.

However, more good news today:

ICE arrests 161 in Los Angeles-area operation targeting criminal aliens, illegal re-entrants & immigration fugitives

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/library/factsheets/pdf/factsheet-fugops-la.pdf

Yamcha · « **Reply #64 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:42:22 PM »

Quote from: TuHolmes on February 13, 2017, 01:33:15 PM

I agree. I hope people take this opportunity to lower the UE rate.

H-1B reduced computer programmer employment by up to 11%, study finds

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/h-1b-reduced-computer-programmer-employment-by-up-to-11-study-finds-2017-02-13

Irongrip400 · « **Reply #65 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:50:33 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on February 12, 2017, 08:34:13 PM

And fuck the Diaz brothers.

I'm twice as good as those cuc-a-cumbers!

Yamcha · « **Reply #66 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:50:52 PM »

wes · « **Reply #67 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:52:27 PM »

"The Donald" doing more in 3 weeks than Obama did in 8 years.

TheGrinch · « **Reply #68 on:** February 13, 2017, 06:40:01 PM »

Quote from: wes on February 13, 2017, 01:52:27 PM

"The Donald" doing more in 3 weeks than Obama did in 8 years.

that's what I was hoping by voting for him but nope...

seriously.. name 1 thing..

Immigration reform? nope...

Barring terrorists from entering.. nope

Repealing and replacing Oturdocare.. nope

Giving me back my old health insurance.. nope

Making sure the uninsured don't have to pay a fine...nope

Uniting the country...nope

Starting to build the border wall ("from day 1") ...nope

etc..etc....etc..

All "feel good" signing meaningless shitty pieces of paper

Kwon · « **Reply #69 on:** February 13, 2017, 11:16:51 PM »

Quote from: TheGrinch on February 13, 2017, 06:40:01 PM

that's what I was hoping by voting for him but nope...

seriously.. name 1 thing..

Immigration reform? nope...

Barring terrorists from entering.. nope

Repealing and replacing Oturdocare.. nope

Giving me back my old health insurance.. nope

Making sure the uninsured don't have to pay a fine...nope

Uniting the country...nope

Starting to build the border wall ("from day 1") ...nope

etc..etc....etc..

All "feel good" signing meaningless shitty pieces of paper

Hopefully Trump will get 8 years as well.

Nails · « **Reply #70 on:** February 13, 2017, 11:21:04 PM »

He will probably go down in history as the only president not to get laid in the white house

JackScribber · « **Reply #71 on:** February 14, 2017, 12:04:44 AM »

Read somewhere today that at least 70-90% of these illegals , depending which sources you want to cite, are convicted felons. Why aren't they thrown out of the fucking country once convicted?? The courts have them RIGHT THERE when passing sentencing or judgement. Why not 'You're guilty and illegal, now fuck off'?

They convict these people then let them go?