is it true that someof tthese mma turds lose 30 lbs in less than 48

[Dave D]

Force glycogen/carbs/water into the cells. Would Drink 4 tablespoons of glycerine with 5 tabs Stenox  then do a 5-7iu shot of humulin R, wait 30mins till blood sugar crashed and wojld get super hungry and eat about 4 bowls of rice pudding (if not more.. ).As much as you/we could eat till blood sugar leveled back out and youd get super sleepy and fall asleep. Drinking a gallon of water at the same time... Wake up and eat more rice or applesauce, another couple tablespoons of glycerine (trial and error found out the hard way that too much glycerin would cause diarrhea.)& another gsllonn of water, 5 more Stenox, and as much water as possible before the match without being too bloated. Would get in over 2 gal water after weigh-in and hold onto a lot of that thanks to the insulin glycerin and rice. Was told by Bill Roberts that halotestin (stenox) also helped with glycogen in the muscle cells which is why I used that instead of methyl test. Plus Stenox made yoi aggressive and didn't put on bodyweigjt.


That was a great few years. High school was fucking awesome. I didn't care who knew I used that stuff even though other guys wanted to keep it a secret. Ended up backfiring on me my senior year though and I got drug tested twice by our baseball coach who was a old school "purest" and kick me off the team even though I passed both tests all I was using was testosterone and Insulin at the time. And told the other teammates that they weren't allowed to train or hang out with me lol even tried to get me barred from working with the football team when I was the student strength and conditioning coach senior year. The dumb fuck even tried to say I wasn't allowed in the locker room lol. None of the other coaches gave a shit . And were more concerned with players having passing grades.... Lil side note; one of my first training partners at the time was P.D. Devers and Gail Devers little cousin. He was always suspended from the team for smoking weed. Genetics in that family are 1 in a million. Kid could've stepped onstage at 16 after 3 weeks of dieting and a tab of Dyazide and taken top3 open at the San Diego championships those years.

Mr. Anabolic  said he knew PD Devers pretty well.

[dj181]

Force glycogen/carbs/water into the cells. Would Drink 4 tablespoons of glycerine with 5 tabs Stenox  then do a 5-7iu shot of humulin R, wait 30mins till blood sugar crashed and wojld get super hungry and eat about 4 bowls of rice pudding (if not more.. ).As much as you/we could eat till blood sugar leveled back out and youd get super sleepy and fall asleep. Drinking a gallon of water at the same time... Wake up and eat more rice or applesauce, another couple tablespoons of glycerine (trial and error found out the hard way that too much glycerin would cause diarrhea.)& another gsllonn of water, 5 more Stenox, and as much water as possible before the match without being too bloated. Would get in over 2 gal water after weigh-in and hold onto a lot of that thanks to the insulin glycerin and rice. Was told by Bill Roberts that halotestin (stenox) also helped with glycogen in the muscle cells which is why I used that instead of methyl test. Plus Stenox made yoi aggressive and didn't put on bodyweigjt.


That was a great few years. High school was fucking awesome. I didn't care who knew I used that stuff even though other guys wanted to keep it a secret. Ended up backfiring on me my senior year though and I got drug tested twice by our baseball coach who was a old school "purest" and kick me off the team even though I passed both tests all I was using was testosterone and Insulin at the time. And told the other teammates that they weren't allowed to train or hang out with me lol even tried to get me barred from working with the football team when I was the student strength and conditioning coach senior year. The dumb fuck even tried to say I wasn't allowed in the locker room lol. None of the other coaches gave a shit . And were more concerned with players having passing grades.... Lil side note; one of my first training partners at the time was P.D. Devers and Gail Devers little cousin. He was always suspended from the team for smoking weed. Genetics in that family are 1 in a million. Kid could've stepped onstage at 16 after 3 weeks of dieting and a tab of Dyazide and taken top3 open at the San Diego championships those years.

did you get to nail Gail?

[Simple Simon]

Yea, 17-18yrs ago. You got a calendar? You got a calculator? Started my first cycle on my 17th birthday .started using insulin a month later. That was 1999. do the fucking math. Ask around I've been posting as InsulinShock for fucking damn near two decades you fucking . One of my first articles was on insulin I wrote for biohazard nutrition that Paul borenson plagiarized and took directly from email I sent him and copied and pasted it on his fucking website with his name on it in 2000 after Trevor left and a few months before Paul od'd and died. That was back when bitch made ignorant uneducated Sissy's like yourself were claiming that 45 or 55 or 65 units of insulin a day would kill you and make you diabetic. Fast forward the 2015 and you got guys using 100 or 200 units of insulin a day and nobody's fucking dying

bearing in mind how shit you have looked all your life you should really keep things like that to yourself.

[cephissus]

Not at all, every one has the same opportunity to cut weight.  It's a level playing field, just a matter of who's willing to push it to maximize their advantage

This reasoning is childish.

[ESFitness]

did you get to nail Gail?

She Mustve been midn30s by then. Only met her a few times

[ESFitness]

Mr. Anabolic  said he knew PD Devers pretty well.

He had a stroke or something about a year after I got out of prison and I hadn't seen him since probably 03.non idea what he's doing now

[Simple Simon]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=552743.0

[ProudVirgin69]

This reasoning is childish.

 

[coffeis4closers]

I used to charge guys in h.s. $40 to get them weighed in and rehydrated for wrestling meets using lasix, glycerol, halotestin(Stenox) and this rice-pudding stuff and have'em drop 20-25lbs to weigh-in and bounce back 20-25lbs same day. Would usually be 2 tabs lasix (40mg).

I wish I knew someone like you when I wrestled in H.S. I remember cutting 22 lbs in 24 hours once getting ready for a 2 day tournament.  The horrible thing is, is that you have to weigh in again the next day and they only give you one extra pound for that weigh in.  After I won my two matches that day I was 9 lbs over so that night I had to cut 9 lbs. Great times lol.

[ESFitness]

I wish I knew someone like you when I wrestled in H.S. I remember cutting 22 lbs in 24 hours once getting ready for a 2 day tournament.  The horrible thing is, is that you have to weigh in again the next day and they only give you one extra pound for that weigh in.  After I won my two matches that day I was 9 lbs over so that night I had to cut 9 lbs. Great times lol.

8lbs over is only a gallon ornsweat & per. 16lbs is 2 gallons. Dropping the weight in 2 days was the eaaynpart. The hard part was figuring out how to rehydrate and put that weight back on without being sluggish and Bloated. First few times didn't drink or warm enough and you'd and up really really really shity hamstring cramps importantly your gas tank would be almost non-existent. If you like for me to win a "green white checker " NASCAR race with only a gallon of fuel.

Took a few tries to get it right and figure out how much rice and glycerol was needed. Keeping in mind carbohydrates will attract 8 to 10 times it's weight in water into cells... Also used Gatorade with about 20g dextrose, 20g sucrose,& 20g fructose mixxed in an 32oz Gatorade (NEVER powerade... That shit uses high fructose corn syrup. Gatorade does not).

If I were to do it again these days, I'd probably do the same things, except is have atuffnlike citrullinle mallate, aakg, agmatine,& vitagro to work with.... And methyltrienolone,& Bolasterone (dimethyltestosterone),

[Van_Bilderass]

Also used Gatorade with about 20g dextrose, 20g sucrose,& 20g fructose mixxed in an 32oz Gatorade (NEVER powerade... That shit uses high fructose corn syrup. Gatorade does not).

Came across this yesterday. Knew most of this beforehand, but good reminder on HFCS. There's this view in many circles that HFCS is the devil but it appears to be pretty much the same as sucrose, neither good nor bad, depending on the context

https://examine.com/nutrition/is-hfcs-high-fructose-corn-syrup-worse-than-sugar/

Of course for carb loading neither sucrose, fructose or hfcs is optimal in high amounts as fructose is best for filling the liver as opposed to the muscles.

For a slow carb isomaltulose/palatinose could be good, instead of fructose.

[Simple Simon]

Came across this yesterday. Knew most of this beforehand, but good reminder on HFCS. There's this view in many circles that HFCS is the devil but it appears to be pretty much the same as sucrose, neither good nor bad, depending on the context

https://examine.com/nutrition/is-hfcs-high-fructose-corn-syrup-worse-than-sugar/

Of course for carb loading neither sucrose, fructose or hfcs is optimal in high amounts as fructose is best for filling the liver as opposed to the muscles.

For a slow carb isomaltulose/palatinose could be good, instead of fructose.

ffs please dont contradict him....

[Van_Bilderass]

ffs please dont contradict him....

I'm not trying to contradict him.
But it's easy to buy into hype on things like HFCS since there's so much negative stuff on it on social media etc.
On another forum a poster told me, "I still think HFCS is worse" though he didn't say why. ESFitness might have some other logical reason for not liking it, I don't know, maybe the ratio is off compared to the other carbs in the mix or something.

[Simple Simon]

I'm not trying to contradict him.
But it's easy to buy into hype on things like HFCS since there's so much negative stuff on it on social media etc.
On another forum a poster told me, "I still think HFCS is worse" though he didn't say why. ESFitness might have some other logical reason for not liking it, I don't know, maybe the ratio is off compared to the other carbs in the mix or something.

then it will be his first.....